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Californians Throws a Tea Party.... Obama Are You Watching?
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MioMyo
2009-05-20 12:09:47 UTC
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In a State that couldn't be more blue, looks like Californians are sick and
tired of democrats always asking the hard working stiff to pay higher taxes.
They also sent a strong message with the single proposition which aims to
take punitive action against legislators who continually refuse to balance
the state's annual checkbook.

Bamby.... are you paying attention cause if you aren't America could turn on
you like Californians have done to the very electors they have maintained at
the government pig trough......

My other question is will the Liberal Press Whores ignore this tax revolt
revolution or will they curse and cuss the voters like they did the recent
tea party protestors?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/05/20/MNRM17NEL2.DTL

California's next budget battle begins this morning as state officials
scramble to close a deficit that instantly swelled to $21.3 billion with
Tuesday's overwhelming defeat of a package of fiscal ballot measures.

"We'll wake up, dust ourselves off and get back to work," said state Senate
President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, one of the authors of the
ballot measures.

The clock already is ticking. Unless Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and the
Legislature can quickly agree on a way to bridge that budget gap, there's
the likelihood of a late summer cash crunch, leaving California unable to
pay its bills.

"The longer we wait, the worse the problem becomes and the more limited our
choices will be," Schwarzenegger said in a statement conceding defeat
Tuesday night.

Speed is everything, agreed state Controller John Chiang.

"We need to get it done right now," he said. "One of the mistakes last year
was that in September we knew the budget was out of balance, but we didn't
do anything until February. We can't wait that long."

This year, the state really can't wait much more than a month. If a revised
budget isn't in place by June 30, the end of the fiscal year, California's
financial problems will get worse in a hurry.

Not only do some of the governor's proposed cuts, such as a $1 billion slash
in this year's state education budget, depend on that deadline, but a delay
past that date could make it much tougher for the state to get the billions
of dollars in short-term bank loans needed to keep California afloat.

In order to get those loans, "We need a real budget that has market
credibility by the end of June," said Tom Dressler, a spokesman for state
Treasurer Bill Lockyer. "That's not just a budget, but a credible budget."

Democrats are holding a news conference this morning to announce "a detailed
(legislative) calendar that tells people we will meet the deadline."

Republicans also will announce their plans for moving the budget discussions
along.

"We've got to act quickly," said state Sen. Dennis Hollingsworth, R-Murrieta
(Riverside County), the GOP leader. "While none of the options are good, the
imperative is that we act quickly."

A joint legislative committee will begin work this week and both Chiang and
Lockyer are expected to appear before legislators Friday to warn them about
the seriousness of the impending cash crunch.

"Schwarzenegger spent election day in Washington, where he appeared
alongside President Obama in a Rose Garden ceremony announcing new, tougher
auto emission standards that California has been seeking for years.

The governor met later in the day with the California congressional
delegation and Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer to ask for their
support in dealing with proposed budget cuts that could violate federal
rules for matching funds.

Schwarzenegger is scheduled to meet this morning with Health and Human
Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius before he flies back to California for
a 3:30 p.m. budget conference with legislative leaders from both parties.

But there already are indications of the political troubles that lie ahead.

Schwarzenegger released a budget revision last week, listing ways to close
the $21.3 billion budget gap. But neither Republicans nor Democrats are
willing to instantly sign on to that package, which not only includes deep
cuts in education and social services, but also calls for billions in
borrowing.

"The governor's proposal is a proposal," Steinberg said. Democrats "will do
our very best to protect the most vulnerable."

The election was a vote of no confidence by Californians who don't want more
taxes, increased spending or any borrowing, said Hollingsworth, the GOP
Senate leader.

Senate Republicans "don't look favorably on borrowing," he said. "There are
things in the governor's plan that we support and things that we will have
to discuss in the budget process."

That's an ominous reminder of the partisan squabbling that stalled budget
negotiations for months last year.

But voters showed at the ballot box Tuesday just how unhappy they are with
business as usual in Sacramento. A reprise of last year's budget fight could
cripple the state financially and leave voters even angrier, said Barbara
O'Connor, a professor of political communications at Sacramento State
University.

"There's no alternative but to get legislators to look past personal
politics," she said. "California's budget is an interim disaster and a
long-term problem. We need to first fix the disaster and then try and decide
what to do down the road."
Bush, Minister of Fear
2009-05-20 12:41:56 UTC
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"MioMyo" <***@Somewhere.com> wrote in message news:EmSQl.7362$***@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com...

hahahaha........ Repugs throw tantrum, nobody shows up to watch,
hahahaha.........
MioMyo
2009-05-20 13:00:19 UTC
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In a State that couldn't be more blue, looks like Californians are sick and
tired of democrats always asking the hard working stiff to pay higher taxes.
They also sent a strong message with the single proposition which aims to
take punitive action against legislators who continually refuse to balance
the state's annual checkbook.

Bamby.... are you paying attention cause if you aren't America could turn on
you like Californians have done to the very electors they have maintained at
the government pig trough......

My other question is will the Liberal Press Whores ignore this tax revolt
revolution or will they curse and cuss the voters like they did the recent
tea party protestors?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/05/20/MNRM17NEL2.DTL

California's next budget battle begins this morning as state officials
scramble to close a deficit that instantly swelled to $21.3 billion with
Tuesday's overwhelming defeat of a package of fiscal ballot measures.

"We'll wake up, dust ourselves off and get back to work," said state Senate
President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, one of the authors of the
ballot measures.

The clock already is ticking. Unless Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and the
Legislature can quickly agree on a way to bridge that budget gap, there's
the likelihood of a late summer cash crunch, leaving California unable to
pay its bills.

"The longer we wait, the worse the problem becomes and the more limited our
choices will be," Schwarzenegger said in a statement conceding defeat
Tuesday night.

Speed is everything, agreed state Controller John Chiang.

"We need to get it done right now," he said. "One of the mistakes last year
was that in September we knew the budget was out of balance, but we didn't
do anything until February. We can't wait that long."

This year, the state really can't wait much more than a month. If a revised
budget isn't in place by June 30, the end of the fiscal year, California's
financial problems will get worse in a hurry.

Not only do some of the governor's proposed cuts, such as a $1 billion slash
in this year's state education budget, depend on that deadline, but a delay
past that date could make it much tougher for the state to get the billions
of dollars in short-term bank loans needed to keep California afloat.

In order to get those loans, "We need a real budget that has market
credibility by the end of June," said Tom Dressler, a spokesman for state
Treasurer Bill Lockyer. "That's not just a budget, but a credible budget."

Democrats are holding a news conference this morning to announce "a detailed
(legislative) calendar that tells people we will meet the deadline."

Republicans also will announce their plans for moving the budget discussions
along.

"We've got to act quickly," said state Sen. Dennis Hollingsworth, R-Murrieta
(Riverside County), the GOP leader. "While none of the options are good, the
imperative is that we act quickly."

A joint legislative committee will begin work this week and both Chiang and
Lockyer are expected to appear before legislators Friday to warn them about
the seriousness of the impending cash crunch.

"Schwarzenegger spent election day in Washington, where he appeared
alongside President Obama in a Rose Garden ceremonyannouncing new, tougher
auto emission standards that California has been seeking for years.

The governor met later in the day with the California congressional
delegation and Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer to ask for their
support in dealing with proposed budget cuts that could violate federal
rules for matching funds.

Schwarzenegger is scheduled to meet this morning with Health and Human
Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius before he flies back to California for
a 3:30 p.m. budget conference with legislative leaders from both parties.

But there already are indications of the political troubles that lie ahead.

Schwarzenegger released a budget revision last week, listing ways to close
the $21.3 billion budget gap. But neither Republicans nor Democrats are
willing to instantly sign on to that package, which not only includes deep
cuts in education and social services, but also calls for billions in
borrowing.

"The governor's proposal is a proposal," Steinberg said. Democrats "will do
our very best to protect the most vulnerable."

The election was a vote of no confidence by Californians who don't want more
taxes, increased spending or any borrowing, said Hollingsworth, the GOP
Senate leader.

Senate Republicans "don't look favorably on borrowing," he said. "There are
things in the governor's plan that we support and things that we will have
to discuss in the budget process."

That's an ominous reminder of the partisan squabbling that stalled budget
negotiations for months last year.

But voters showed at the ballot box Tuesday just how unhappy they are with
business as usual in Sacramento. A reprise of last year's budget fight could
cripple the state financially and leave voters even angrier, said Barbara
O'Connor, a professor of political communications at Sacramento State
University.

"There's no alternative but to get legislators to look past personal
politics," she said. "California's budget is an interim disaster and a
long-term problem. We need to first fix the disaster and then try and decide
what to do down the road."
Post by Bush, Minister of Fear
hahahaha........ Repugs throw tantrum, nobody shows up to watch,
hahahaha.........
ROFLMFAO


You can delete the post tard, but you cannot delete the Fact that Liberal
TAX & SPEND ideologues got their arses kick rooyally yesterday by the voters
in the BLUE Land of Fruits and Nuts.....

Enjoy your pain.... I know I will...
MioMyo
2009-05-23 00:51:58 UTC
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On Thu, 21 May 2009 17:47:41 -0700, "MioMyo"
You have an extremely high bar supporting that claim lib, considering
since
the 60s, Ronald Regan was governor for 8-years, the Duke (another strong
republican) for 8, Pete Wilson (R) for 8 and now the terminator for 6. G
Davis (D) got his butt kicked out of office though moonbeam did his 8.
The irony of it all, although Californians seem to prefer republican
governors, democrats have been in control of the legislator for
decades....
But aren't you, as a conservative, one to argue
(strongly) that California is a bed of stupidity?
Absolutely... those districts which keep electing dems.....

Good for you agreeing with that reality..........
That would follow they would elect idiot Republicans as
governors---especially raygun, a proven perjurer and
self-serving asshole.
Your proof is?
Bill Z.
2009-05-20 14:48:02 UTC
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Post by MioMyo
In a State that couldn't be more blue, looks like Californians are
sick and tired of democrats always asking the hard working stiff to
pay higher taxes. They also sent a strong message with the single
proposition which aims to take punitive action against legislators who
continually refuse to balance the state's annual checkbook.
It was the Republican governor's ballot measures.
Post by MioMyo
Bamby.... are you paying attention cause if you aren't America could
turn on you like Californians have done to the very electors they have
maintained at the government pig trough......
My other question is will the Liberal Press Whores ignore this tax
revolt revolution or will they curse and cuss the voters like they did
the recent tea party protestors?
It's not a tax revolt. But instead of this moron's imagined,
"Liberal Pres Whores", how about what our Republican governor said
about it, quoted in
<http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2009/05/20/MN8317LBQS.DTL>:

In a written statement Tuesday night, Schwarzenegger said that he
believes Californians are simply frustrated with the state's
dysfunctional budget system.

"Now we must move forward from this point to begin to address our
fiscal crisis with constructive solutions," the governor said.

Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, said voter
rejection of the propositions reflects the fact that people are
facing difficult economic times and he is prepared to return to the
budget negotiating table today.

The difficulty is that you need a 2/3 vote to pass a budget, making
one nearly impossible to get passed. Darrell Steinberg's assessment
may not be correct BTW -it is not just "difficult economic times" but
also annoyance over the legislature, whom the voters are paying, not being
able to do their job (mostly due to the 2/3 requirement to get the
thing passed). Neither is a tax revolt.
Post by MioMyo
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/05/20/MNRM17NEL2.DTL
Try
<http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/05/19/MN8317LBQS.DTL&tsp=1>:

Last week, while unveiling the grim prospects for the state budget,
Schwarzenegger insisted that the ballot measures are not about him
but about the future of the Golden State.

Schwarzenegger tried to build a broad coalition of proponents of the
measures, but he did much of the heavy lifting, helping to raise
more than $15 million for the "yes" campaign. The proponents of the
measures together raised a total of about $29 million.


I.e., it's a Republican governor's ballot measures, so MioMyo blames
the Democrats. :-)
Bush, Minister of Fear
2009-05-20 18:44:23 UTC
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Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
In a State that couldn't be more blue, looks like Californians are
sick and tired of democrats always asking the hard working stiff to
pay higher taxes. They also sent a strong message with the single
proposition which aims to take punitive action against legislators who
continually refuse to balance the state's annual checkbook.
It was the Republican governor's ballot measures.
Yep and it failed worse than a republican in a modern science class in an
elementary school.
Post by Bill Z.
I.e., it's a Republican governor's ballot measures, so MioMyo blames
the Democrats. :-)
Spartakus
2009-05-20 21:51:06 UTC
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Post by Bush, Minister of Fear
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
In a State that couldn't be more blue, looks like Californians are
sick and tired of democrats always asking the hard working stiff to
pay higher taxes. They also sent a strong message with the single
proposition which aims to take punitive action against legislators
who continually refuse to balance the state's annual checkbook.
It was the Republican governor's ballot measures.
Yep and it failed worse than a republican in a modern science class
in an elementary school.
Post by Bill Z.
I.e., it's a Republican governor's ballot measures, so MioMyo
blames the Democrats. :-)
Free advice to Meow-Mix: google on "Howard Jarvis" and "Proposition
13", and you will get a CLUE as why California's budget politics is
the way it is. Bonus fun: google on "California Yacht Party" and see
what pops up!
Bill Z.
2009-05-20 22:23:15 UTC
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Post by Spartakus
Post by Bush, Minister of Fear
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
In a State that couldn't be more blue, looks like Californians are
sick and tired of democrats always asking the hard working stiff to
pay higher taxes. They also sent a strong message with the single
proposition which aims to take punitive action against legislators
who continually refuse to balance the state's annual checkbook.
It was the Republican governor's ballot measures.
Yep and it failed worse than a republican in a modern science class
in an elementary school.
Post by Bill Z.
I.e., it's a Republican governor's ballot measures, so MioMyo
blames the Democrats. :-)
Free advice to Meow-Mix: google on "Howard Jarvis" and "Proposition
13", and you will get a CLUE as why California's budget politics is
the way it is. Bonus fun: google on "California Yacht Party" and see
what pops up!
It is worth mentioning too that when the voters passed Proposition 13,
the public discussion was about property taxes and how people were
being forced out of their homes due to property values increasing at
well above the rate of inflation. The 2/3 vote required to raise
taxes was in the text of the initiative and hardly anyone was aware of
it.
MioMyo
2009-05-21 02:19:16 UTC
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Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
In a State that couldn't be more blue, looks like Californians are
sick and tired of democrats always asking the hard working stiff to
pay higher taxes. They also sent a strong message with the single
proposition which aims to take punitive action against legislators who
continually refuse to balance the state's annual checkbook.
It was the Republican governor's ballot measures.
Really, Explain that?
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Bamby.... are you paying attention cause if you aren't America could
turn on you like Californians have done to the very electors they have
maintained at the government pig trough......
My other question is will the Liberal Press Whores ignore this tax
revolt revolution or will they curse and cuss the voters like they did
the recent tea party protestors?
It's not a tax revolt. But instead of this moron's imagined,
"Liberal Pres Whores", how about what our Republican governor said
about it, quoted in
Not a tax revolt? Is that why every county in the state vote em down, even
the liberal bastions San Francisco and LA?
Post by Bill Z.
In a written statement Tuesday night, Schwarzenegger said that he
believes Californians are simply frustrated with the state's
dysfunctional budget system.
"Now we must move forward from this point to begin to address our
fiscal crisis with constructive solutions," the governor said.
Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, said voter
rejection of the propositions reflects the fact that people are
facing difficult economic times and he is prepared to return to the
budget negotiating table today.
The difficulty is that you need a 2/3 vote to pass a budget, making
one nearly impossible to get passed. Darrell Steinberg's assessment
may not be correct BTW -it is not just "difficult economic times" but
also annoyance over the legislature, whom the voters are paying, not being
able to do their job (mostly due to the 2/3 requirement to get the
thing passed). Neither is a tax revolt.
Post by MioMyo
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/05/20/MNRM17NEL2.DTL
Try
Last week, while unveiling the grim prospects for the state budget,
Schwarzenegger insisted that the ballot measures are not about him
but about the future of the Golden State.
Schwarzenegger tried to build a broad coalition of proponents of the
measures, but he did much of the heavy lifting, helping to raise
more than $15 million for the "yes" campaign. The proponents of the
measures together raised a total of about $29 million.
I.e., it's a Republican governor's ballot measures, so MioMyo blames
the Democrats. :-)
Do give your reasons why you think these measures are the terminator's.

Also an explanation why you think the dems share no responsibility would
also be entertaining.....

But we both know you'll do neither....
Bill Z.
2009-05-21 03:52:46 UTC
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Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
In a State that couldn't be more blue, looks like Californians are
sick and tired of democrats always asking the hard working stiff to
pay higher taxes. They also sent a strong message with the single
proposition which aims to take punitive action against legislators who
continually refuse to balance the state's annual checkbook.
It was the Republican governor's ballot measures.
Really, Explain that?
<http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=3956>. And don't blame the "liberal
media" because this is a right-wing web site! Even the right wing
claims it is the governor's ballot measures.

Also <http://digg.com/politics/Schwarzenegger_Propositions_Fail>.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
It's not a tax revolt. But instead of this moron's imagined,
"Liberal Pres Whores", how about what our Republican governor said
about it, quoted in
Not a tax revolt? Is that why every county in the state vote em down,
even the liberal bastions San Francisco and LA?
It is not a tax revolt. Read the article I quoted.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
In a written statement Tuesday night, Schwarzenegger said that he
believes Californians are simply frustrated with the state's
dysfunctional budget system.
"Now we must move forward from this point to begin to address our
fiscal crisis with constructive solutions," the governor said.
Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, said voter
rejection of the propositions reflects the fact that people are
facing difficult economic times and he is prepared to return to the
budget negotiating table today.
The difficulty is that you need a 2/3 vote to pass a budget, making
one nearly impossible to get passed. Darrell Steinberg's assessment
may not be correct BTW -it is not just "difficult economic times" but
also annoyance over the legislature, whom the voters are paying, not being
able to do their job (mostly due to the 2/3 requirement to get the
thing passed). Neither is a tax revolt.
Post by MioMyo
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/05/20/MNRM17NEL2.DTL
Try
Last week, while unveiling the grim prospects for the state budget,
Schwarzenegger insisted that the ballot measures are not about him
but about the future of the Golden State.
Schwarzenegger tried to build a broad coalition of proponents of the
measures, but he did much of the heavy lifting, helping to raise
more than $15 million for the "yes" campaign. The proponents of the
measures together raised a total of about $29 million.
I.e., it's a Republican governor's ballot measures, so MioMyo blames
the Democrats. :-)
Do give your reasons why you think these measures are the terminator's.
I did. see above.
Post by MioMyo
Also an explanation why you think the dems share no responsibility
would also be entertaining.....
But we both know you'll do neither....
Don't keep up with the news, do you.
MioMyo
2009-05-21 12:31:01 UTC
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Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
In a State that couldn't be more blue, looks like Californians are
sick and tired of democrats always asking the hard working stiff to
pay higher taxes. They also sent a strong message with the single
proposition which aims to take punitive action against legislators who
continually refuse to balance the state's annual checkbook.
It was the Republican governor's ballot measures.
Really, Explain that?
<http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=3956>. And don't blame the "liberal
media" because this is a right-wing web site! Even the right wing
claims it is the governor's ballot measures.
Also <http://digg.com/politics/Schwarzenegger_Propositions_Fail>.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
It's not a tax revolt. But instead of this moron's imagined,
"Liberal Pres Whores", how about what our Republican governor said
about it, quoted in
Not a tax revolt? Is that why every county in the state vote em down,
even the liberal bastions San Francisco and LA?
It is not a tax revolt. Read the article I quoted.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
In a written statement Tuesday night, Schwarzenegger said that he
believes Californians are simply frustrated with the state's
dysfunctional budget system.
"Now we must move forward from this point to begin to address our
fiscal crisis with constructive solutions," the governor said.
Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, said voter
rejection of the propositions reflects the fact that people are
facing difficult economic times and he is prepared to return to the
budget negotiating table today.
The difficulty is that you need a 2/3 vote to pass a budget, making
one nearly impossible to get passed. Darrell Steinberg's assessment
may not be correct BTW -it is not just "difficult economic times" but
also annoyance over the legislature, whom the voters are paying, not being
able to do their job (mostly due to the 2/3 requirement to get the
thing passed). Neither is a tax revolt.
Post by MioMyo
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/05/20/MNRM17NEL2.DTL
Try
Last week, while unveiling the grim prospects for the state budget,
Schwarzenegger insisted that the ballot measures are not about him
but about the future of the Golden State.
Schwarzenegger tried to build a broad coalition of proponents of the
measures, but he did much of the heavy lifting, helping to raise
more than $15 million for the "yes" campaign. The proponents of the
measures together raised a total of about $29 million.
I.e., it's a Republican governor's ballot measures, so MioMyo blames
the Democrats. :-)
Do give your reasons why you think these measures are the terminator's.
I did. see above.
Post by MioMyo
Also an explanation why you think the dems share no responsibility
would also be entertaining.....
But we both know you'll do neither....
Don't keep up with the news, do you.
More than you obviously, tard. Plus I can only hope the liberal
establishment is as tuned out and politically brain-dead as you are though I
know they're not. You can bet that bamby and company is watching what has
happened in California since the ole saying, "As goes California, so goes
the nation" is usually right on point.

Plus your claim that these propositions being the terminators is patently
false since you are obviously ignorant of the facts, facts like:

1- the history of the current California budget debacle
2- the California constitution
3- which political party holds the majority in California and has for
decades
4- how these propositions were contrived in the first place.

But please do continue posting your inane nonsense because I get a kick out
of watching you make a fool of yourself....
LGs Garison
2009-05-21 13:43:00 UTC
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Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
In a State that couldn't be more blue, looks like Californians are
sick and tired of democrats always asking the hard working stiff to
pay higher taxes. They also sent a strong message with the single
proposition which aims to take punitive action against legislators who
continually refuse to balance the state's annual checkbook.
It was the Republican governor's ballot measures.
Really, Explain that?
<http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=3956>. And don't blame the "liberal
media" because this is a right-wing web site! Even the right wing
claims it is the governor's ballot measures.
Also <http://digg.com/politics/Schwarzenegger_Propositions_Fail>.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
It's not a tax revolt. But instead of this moron's imagined,
"Liberal Pres Whores", how about what our Republican governor said
about it, quoted in
Not a tax revolt? Is that why every county in the state vote em down,
even the liberal bastions San Francisco and LA?
It is not a tax revolt. Read the article I quoted.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
In a written statement Tuesday night, Schwarzenegger said that he
believes Californians are simply frustrated with the state's
dysfunctional budget system.
"Now we must move forward from this point to begin to address our
fiscal crisis with constructive solutions," the governor said.
Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, said voter
rejection of the propositions reflects the fact that people are
facing difficult economic times and he is prepared to return to the
budget negotiating table today.
The difficulty is that you need a 2/3 vote to pass a budget, making
one nearly impossible to get passed. Darrell Steinberg's assessment
may not be correct BTW -it is not just "difficult economic times" but
also annoyance over the legislature, whom the voters are paying, not being
able to do their job (mostly due to the 2/3 requirement to get the
thing passed). Neither is a tax revolt.
Post by MioMyo
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/05/20/MNRM17NEL2.DTL
Try
Last week, while unveiling the grim prospects for the state budget,
Schwarzenegger insisted that the ballot measures are not about him
but about the future of the Golden State.
Schwarzenegger tried to build a broad coalition of proponents of the
measures, but he did much of the heavy lifting, helping to raise
more than $15 million for the "yes" campaign. The proponents of the
measures together raised a total of about $29 million.
I.e., it's a Republican governor's ballot measures, so MioMyo blames
the Democrats. :-)
Do give your reasons why you think these measures are the terminator's.
I did. see above.
Post by MioMyo
Also an explanation why you think the dems share no responsibility
would also be entertaining.....
But we both know you'll do neither....
Don't keep up with the news, do you.
More than you obviously, tard.
BULLSHIT.
MioMyo
2009-05-22 01:14:42 UTC
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Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
In a State that couldn't be more blue, looks like Californians are
sick and tired of democrats always asking the hard working stiff to
pay higher taxes. They also sent a strong message with the single
proposition which aims to take punitive action against legislators who
continually refuse to balance the state's annual checkbook.
It was the Republican governor's ballot measures.
Really, Explain that?
<http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=3956>. And don't blame the "liberal
media" because this is a right-wing web site! Even the right wing
claims it is the governor's ballot measures.
Also <http://digg.com/politics/Schwarzenegger_Propositions_Fail>.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
It's not a tax revolt. But instead of this moron's imagined,
"Liberal Pres Whores", how about what our Republican governor said
about it, quoted in
Not a tax revolt? Is that why every county in the state vote em down,
even the liberal bastions San Francisco and LA?
It is not a tax revolt. Read the article I quoted.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
In a written statement Tuesday night, Schwarzenegger said that he
believes Californians are simply frustrated with the state's
dysfunctional budget system.
"Now we must move forward from this point to begin to address our
fiscal crisis with constructive solutions," the governor said.
Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, said voter
rejection of the propositions reflects the fact that people are
facing difficult economic times and he is prepared to return to the
budget negotiating table today.
The difficulty is that you need a 2/3 vote to pass a budget, making
one nearly impossible to get passed. Darrell Steinberg's assessment
may not be correct BTW -it is not just "difficult economic times" but
also annoyance over the legislature, whom the voters are paying, not being
able to do their job (mostly due to the 2/3 requirement to get the
thing passed). Neither is a tax revolt.
Post by MioMyo
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/05/20/MNRM17NEL2.DTL
Try
Last week, while unveiling the grim prospects for the state budget,
Schwarzenegger insisted that the ballot measures are not about him
but about the future of the Golden State.
Schwarzenegger tried to build a broad coalition of proponents of the
measures, but he did much of the heavy lifting, helping to raise
more than $15 million for the "yes" campaign. The proponents of the
measures together raised a total of about $29 million.
I.e., it's a Republican governor's ballot measures, so MioMyo blames
the Democrats. :-)
Do give your reasons why you think these measures are the terminator's.
I did. see above.
Post by MioMyo
Also an explanation why you think the dems share no responsibility
would also be entertaining.....
But we both know you'll do neither....
Don't keep up with the news, do you.
More than you obviously, tard.
BULLSHIT.
Wow.. what a profoundly convincing rebuttal, rich with supporting, credible
facts and evidence......

I'm sure you were able to sell the move-on and code pink crowd with such wit
& intellect!

ROFLMFAO............
P***@SillyWalk.com
2009-05-22 15:03:13 UTC
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On Thu, 21 May 2009 18:14:42 -0700, "MioMyo"
Post by MioMyo
Post by LGs Garison
BULLSHIT.
Wow.. what a profoundly convincing rebuttal, rich with supporting, credible
facts and evidence......
I've never seen YOU with any facts or evidence to back
up your litany of silly crap, Whineo

Mostly, you merely puke out republican
propaganda---probably because you don't know what it
is.
Post by MioMyo
==================================================================================
"The great masses' receptive ability is only very limited, their understanding
is small, but their forgetfullness is great. As a consequence
of these facts, all effective propagana has to limit itself only to a
very few points and use them like slogans until even the very last man
is able to imagine what is intended by such a word.
Adolph Hitler
Mein Kampf
Bill Z.
2009-05-21 14:32:26 UTC
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Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Don't keep up with the news, do you.
More than you obviously, tard. Plus I can only hope the liberal
establishment <snip>
Idiot.
MioMyo
2009-05-22 01:16:24 UTC
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Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Don't keep up with the news, do you.
More than you obviously, tard. Plus I can only hope the liberal
establishment <snip>
Idiot.
Wow.. what a profoundly convincing rebuttal, filled with supporting,
credible facts and evidence......

I'm sure you were able to sell the move-on and code pink crowd with such wit
& intellect!

ROFLMFAO............
LGs Garison
2009-05-22 03:09:24 UTC
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Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Don't keep up with the news, do you.
More than you obviously, tard. Plus I can only hope the liberal
establishment <snip>
Idiot.
Wow.. what a profoundly convincing rebuttal, filled with supporting,
credible facts and evidence......
I'm sure you were able to sell the move-on and code pink crowd with such
wit & intellect!
ROFLMFAO............
Yea, you really sold the republicans last November, didn't you?
MioMyo
2009-05-22 03:42:20 UTC
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Post by LGs Garison
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Don't keep up with the news, do you.
More than you obviously, tard. Plus I can only hope the liberal
establishment <snip>
Idiot.
Wow.. what a profoundly convincing rebuttal, filled with supporting,
credible facts and evidence......
I'm sure you were able to sell the move-on and code pink crowd with such
wit & intellect!
ROFLMFAO............
Yea, you really sold the republicans last November, didn't you?
Let's see, bamby got 53% of the vote which equates to a divided country
tard.

Happy to have educated you, once again......
Bill Z.
2009-05-22 07:23:33 UTC
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Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Don't keep up with the news, do you.
More than you obviously, tard. Plus I can only hope the liberal
establishment <snip>
Idiot.
Wow.. what a profoundly convincing rebuttal, filled with supporting,
credible facts and evidence......
I'm sure you were able to sell the move-on and code pink crowd with
such wit & intellect!
ROFLMFAO............
You are being written off because you are truly an idiot. You
ranted about how the current crop of initiatives were not those
of our Republican governor and you claimed it was a "tax revolt".
Read
<http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2009/05/21/MNBC17O57T.DTL>:

Angry voters send message: 'It's not our job'

In the end, the only question about Gov. Arnold
Schwarzenegger's package of budget-reform measures was: How
badly will they lose?

It's simple - we are paying the legislature to work out the budget and
they aren't doing it. The primary reason is the need for a 2/3 majority
to get it done.
MioMyo
2009-05-22 12:36:22 UTC
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Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Don't keep up with the news, do you.
More than you obviously, tard. Plus I can only hope the liberal
establishment <snip>
Idiot.
Wow.. what a profoundly convincing rebuttal, filled with supporting,
credible facts and evidence......
I'm sure you were able to sell the move-on and code pink crowd with
such wit & intellect!
ROFLMFAO............
You are being written off because you are truly an idiot. You
ranted about how the current crop of initiatives were not those
of our Republican governor and you claimed it was a "tax revolt".
Read
Angry voters send message: 'It's not our job'
In the end, the only question about Gov. Arnold
Schwarzenegger's package of budget-reform measures was: How
badly will they lose?
It's simple - we are paying the legislature to work out the budget and
they aren't doing it. The primary reason is the need for a 2/3 majority
to get it done.
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will always believe a sound-bite
title by some liberal news outlet. Next time try reading the tripe you post
libtard. Even the liberal rag, AF Chronicle goes on to explain the
propositions were being promoted by both the terminator and the legislator.

But what the rag didn't tell you is the propositions originated from the
democrat legislators, the majority party (and has been for decades) who
could not bring themselves to pass a budget- something they've been late on
almost every year for the past 20-years. Furthermore these morons are
dealing with the budget about every 3-months now since they can't bring
themselves to make the necessary cuts.

It's true that Arnold went along with this compromise and is in the
forefront now to make the cuts. That's leadership whereas the dem
legislators who are actually responsible for this mess are no where to be
found. They've scurried away, hiding like the scared little cockroaches they
are. Like the typical liberal, these buffoons will never take responsibility
for the mess they've created over the last several decades......

Class Closed..............
Bill Z.
2009-05-22 15:36:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Don't keep up with the news, do you.
More than you obviously, tard. Plus I can only hope the liberal
establishment <snip>
Idiot.
Wow.. what a profoundly convincing rebuttal, filled with supporting,
credible facts and evidence......
I'm sure you were able to sell the move-on and code pink crowd with
such wit & intellect!
ROFLMFAO............
You are being written off because you are truly an idiot. You
ranted about how the current crop of initiatives were not those
of our Republican governor and you claimed it was a "tax revolt".
Read
Angry voters send message: 'It's not our job'
In the end, the only question about Gov. Arnold
Schwarzenegger's package of budget-reform measures was: How
badly will they lose?
It's simple - we are paying the legislature to work out the budget and
they aren't doing it. The primary reason is the need for a 2/3 majority
to get it done.
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".

<rest of this idiot's attempt at covering over his stupidity ignored>
P***@SillyWalk.com
2009-05-22 21:49:44 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what "socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they figure
it must be as they claim.
Post by Bill Z.
==================================================================================
"The great masses' receptive ability is only very limited, their understanding
is small, but their forgetfullness is great. As a consequence
of these facts, all effective propagana has to limit itself only to a
very few points and use them like slogans until even the very last man
is able to imagine what is intended by such a word.
Adolph Hitler
Mein Kampf
"What does the Republican party need to do to win elections again...."??
Resonse: "they(we) need to "craft another message" and use it as often
as we can"
kujebak
2009-05-23 01:35:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what "socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it - behind
the Iron Curtain. If it is tyranny of the collective you want,
you pretentious ignoramus, why don't pack your shit and
move to Cuba.
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
Post by Bill Z.
==========================================================================­========
"The great masses' receptive ability is only very limited, their understanding
is small, but their forgetfullness is great.  As a consequence
of these facts, all effective propagana has to limit itself only to a
very few points and use them like slogans until even the very last man
is able to imagine what is intended by such a word.
                                 Adolph Hitler
                                 Mein Kampf
"What does the Republican party need to do to win elections again...."??
Resonse:  "they(we) need to "craft another message" and use it as often
as we can"- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Bill Z.
2009-05-23 05:59:03 UTC
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Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what "socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it - behind
the Iron Curtain. If it is tyranny of the collective you want,
you pretentious ignoramus, why don't pack your shit and
move to Cuba.
Another person who doesn't know the difference between socialism,
communism, stalinism, and maoism.
Wilson Woods
2009-05-23 06:06:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bill Z.
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what "socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it - behind
the Iron Curtain. If it is tyranny of the collective you want,
you pretentious ignoramus, why don't pack your shit and
move to Cuba.
Another person who doesn't know the difference between socialism,
communism, stalinism, and maoism.
As if you know any meaningful differences among them...
kujebak
2009-05-23 06:22:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bill Z.
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what "socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it - behind
the Iron Curtain. If it is tyranny of the collective you want,
you pretentious ignoramus, why don't pack your shit and
move to Cuba.
Another person who doesn't know the difference between socialism,
communism, stalinism, and maoism.
As if you know any meaningful differences among them...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Of course he doesn't.
MioMyo
2009-05-23 12:31:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bill Z.
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what "socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it - behind
the Iron Curtain. If it is tyranny of the collective you want,
you pretentious ignoramus, why don't pack your shit and
move to Cuba.
Another person who doesn't know the difference between socialism,
communism, stalinism, and maoism.
As if you know any meaningful differences among them...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
<Of course he doesn't.

But he thinks he sounds intelligence stating his tripe, kinda like the
current president who thinks making a ringer of a speech washes away all
pretenses of reality......
Bill Z.
2009-05-23 15:28:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what "socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it - behind
the Iron Curtain. If it is tyranny of the collective you want,
you pretentious ignoramus, why don't pack your shit and
move to Cuba.
Another person who doesn't know the difference between socialism,
communism, stalinism, and maoism.
As if you know any meaningful differences among them...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
<Of course he doesn't.
But he thinks he sounds intelligence stating his tripe, kinda like the
current president who thinks making a ringer of a speech washes away
all pretenses of reality......
Multiple idiots, having been shown to have made fools of themselves,
are reduced to childish ad hominem arguments in a silly attempt at
a response.
Bill Z.
2009-05-23 15:27:57 UTC
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Post by Wilson Woods
Post by Bill Z.
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what "socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it - behind
the Iron Curtain. If it is tyranny of the collective you want,
you pretentious ignoramus, why don't pack your shit and
move to Cuba.
Another person who doesn't know the difference between socialism,
communism, stalinism, and maoism.
As if you know any meaningful differences among them...
Idiot.
Wilson Woods
2009-05-23 15:51:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bill Z.
Post by Wilson Woods
Post by Bill Z.
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what "socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it - behind
the Iron Curtain. If it is tyranny of the collective you want,
you pretentious ignoramus, why don't pack your shit and
move to Cuba.
Another person who doesn't know the difference between socialism,
communism, stalinism, and maoism.
As if you know any meaningful differences among them...
Idiot.
Yes, you certainly are.
Bill Z.
2009-05-23 20:46:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by Wilson Woods
Post by Bill Z.
Post by Wilson Woods
Post by Bill Z.
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what "socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it - behind
the Iron Curtain. If it is tyranny of the collective you want,
you pretentious ignoramus, why don't pack your shit and
move to Cuba.
Another person who doesn't know the difference between socialism,
communism, stalinism, and maoism.
As if you know any meaningful differences among them...
Idiot.
Yes, you certainly are.
Make that three idiots - "Poo", kujebak, and "Wilson Woods".
Wilson Woods
2009-05-24 16:20:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bill Z.
Post by Wilson Woods
Post by Bill Z.
Post by Wilson Woods
Post by Bill Z.
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what "socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it - behind
the Iron Curtain. If it is tyranny of the collective you want,
you pretentious ignoramus, why don't pack your shit and
move to Cuba.
Another person who doesn't know the difference between socialism,
communism, stalinism, and maoism.
As if you know any meaningful differences among them...
Idiot.
Yes, you certainly are.
Make that three idiots
BillyZee and his two climbing "buddies".
kujebak
2009-05-23 23:30:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Wilson Woods
Post by Bill Z.
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what "socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it - behind
the Iron Curtain. If it is tyranny of the collective you want,
you pretentious ignoramus, why don't pack your shit and
move to Cuba.
Another person who doesn't know the difference between socialism,
communism, stalinism, and maoism.
As if you know any meaningful differences among them...
Idiot.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
How old are you, Bill? 60ish?
Why must you always have the last word?
Why are you so puerile?
Bill Z.
2009-05-24 01:09:49 UTC
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Post by kujebak
Post by Wilson Woods
Post by Bill Z.
Another person who doesn't know the difference between socialism,
communism, stalinism, and maoism.
As if you know any meaningful differences among them...
Idiot.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
How old are you, Bill? 60ish?
Why must you always have the last word?
Why are you so puerile?
Idiot.
Lamont Cranston
2009-05-26 14:27:16 UTC
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Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will
always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco
Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what "socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it -
behind
the Iron Curtain.
There was never socialism behind the Iron Curtain, only
communism, thus proving that you don't know that socialism
is.
Orval Fairbairn
2009-05-26 17:30:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will
always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco
Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what "socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it -
behind
the Iron Curtain.
There was never socialism behind the Iron Curtain, only
communism, thus proving that you don't know that socialism
is.
Hitler had socialism -- National Socialism!
--
Remove _'s from email address to talk to me.
Lamont Cranston
2009-05-26 18:01:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will
always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco
Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what "socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they
figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it -
behind
the Iron Curtain.
There was never socialism behind the Iron Curtain, only
communism, thus proving that you don't know that
socialism
is.
Hitler had socialism -- National Socialism!
It wasn't socialism, moron, it was the exact opposite.
That's why it was called "National Socialism." You probably
believe that China is a republic.
Lamont Cranston
2009-05-26 18:20:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will
always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco
Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what
"socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they
figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it -
behind
the Iron Curtain.
There was never socialism behind the Iron Curtain, only
communism, thus proving that you don't know that
socialism
is.
Hitler had socialism -- National Socialism!
It wasn't socialism, moron, it was the exact opposite.
That's why it was called "National Socialism." You
probably
believe that China is a republic.
Nazism and neonazism: Nazism is a form of fascism developed
by Adolf Hitler's National Socialist German Workers Party
(Nazi Party) and the state it controlled in Germany and
Europe from 1933 to 1945. Nazism was defined by a doctrine
of Aryan racial supremacy, demonization of the so-called
Jewish-Bolshevik conspiracy, a program of German military
conquest, and systematic genocide against Jews and other
people considered racial enemies or racially inferior.

Fascism and neofascism: Fascism is an especially virulent
form of far-right populism. Fascism glorifies national,
racial, or cultural unity and collective rebirth while
seeking to purge imagined enemies, and attacks both
revolutionary movements and liberal pluralism in favor of
militarized, totalitarian mass politics. Fascism first
crystallized in Europe in response to the Bolshevik
Revolution and the devastation of World War I, and then
spread to other parts of the world. If it is a post-WWII
occurrence it should be called neofascist or neofascism
unless it solely involves participants in older movements.
Neofascists reinterpret fascist ideology and strategy in
various ways to fit new circumstances.

http://www.publiceye.org/glossary/glossary_big.html
kujebak
2009-05-26 21:51:47 UTC
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Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will
always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco
Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what
"socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they
figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it -
behind
the Iron Curtain.
There was never socialism behind the Iron Curtain, only
communism, thus proving that you don't know that
socialism
is.
Hitler had socialism -- National Socialism!
It wasn't socialism, moron, it was the exact opposite.
That's why it was called "National Socialism."  You
probably
believe that China is a republic.
Nazism and neonazism: Nazism is a form of fascism developed
by Adolf Hitler's National Socialist German Workers Party
(Nazi Party) and the state it controlled in Germany and
Europe from 1933 to 1945. Nazism was defined by a doctrine
of Aryan racial supremacy, demonization of the so-called
Jewish-Bolshevik conspiracy, a program of German military
conquest, and systematic genocide against Jews and other
people considered racial enemies or racially inferior.
Fascism and neofascism: Fascism is an especially virulent
form of far-right populism. Fascism glorifies national,
racial, or cultural unity and collective rebirth while
seeking to purge imagined enemies, and attacks both
revolutionary movements and liberal pluralism in favor of
militarized, totalitarian mass politics. Fascism first
crystallized in Europe in response to the Bolshevik
Revolution and the devastation of World War I, and then
spread to other parts of the world. If it is a post-WWII
occurrence it should be called neofascist or neofascism
unless it solely involves participants in older movements.
Neofascists reinterpret fascist ideology and strategy in
various ways to fit new circumstances.
http://www.publiceye.org/glossary/glossary_big.html- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Question #1:
What was the economic philosophy of German Nazi regime?
Was it based on the economic rights of the individual, or the
preeminence of the collective benefit? Was it based on free
market competition, or centralized government economic con-
trol? Was it capitalist, or socialist?

Question #2:
Now let's define the term "socialist" ;-)

Question #3:
Did you know any of this before you Goggled it up?
Orval Fairbairn
2009-05-27 02:42:50 UTC
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Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will
always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco
Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what "socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they
figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it -
behind
the Iron Curtain.
There was never socialism behind the Iron Curtain, only
communism, thus proving that you don't know that
socialism
is.
Hitler had socialism -- National Socialism!
It wasn't socialism, moron, it was the exact opposite.
That's why it was called "National Socialism." You probably
believe that China is a republic.
Socialism, Communism, Fascism are ALL oppressive schemes, which remove
the rights of the individual and make them subservient to the State.

Then hey put fools like "Lamont Cranston" in charge.
--
Remove _'s from email address to talk to me.
Lamont Cranston
2009-05-27 13:31:19 UTC
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Post by Orval Fairbairn
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you
will
always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San
Francisco
Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what
"socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they
figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not
only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in
it -
behind
the Iron Curtain.
There was never socialism behind the Iron Curtain,
only
communism, thus proving that you don't know that
socialism
is.
Hitler had socialism -- National Socialism!
It wasn't socialism, moron, it was the exact opposite.
That's why it was called "National Socialism." You
probably
believe that China is a republic.
Socialism, Communism, Fascism are ALL oppressive schemes,
which remove
the rights of the individual and make them subservient to
the State.
Wrong. Socialism is an economic system in which the means
of production and distribution of goods and services are
publicly owned. It's nothing more than that, except to you
wingnuts who make up your own definitions for words.
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Then hey put fools like "Lamont Cranston" in charge.
LOL! Coming from a kooker moron who doesn't know what
socialism is, that's a compliment. Thank you very much!
Orval Fairbairn
2009-05-27 16:43:31 UTC
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Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you
will
always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San
Francisco
Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what
"socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they
figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not
only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in
it -
behind
the Iron Curtain.
There was never socialism behind the Iron Curtain,
only
communism, thus proving that you don't know that
socialism
is.
Hitler had socialism -- National Socialism!
It wasn't socialism, moron, it was the exact opposite.
That's why it was called "National Socialism." You
probably
believe that China is a republic.
Socialism, Communism, Fascism are ALL oppressive schemes,
which remove
the rights of the individual and make them subservient to
the State.
Wrong. Socialism is an economic system in which the means
of production and distribution of goods and services are
publicly owned. It's nothing more than that, except to you
wingnuts who make up your own definitions for words.
..... and everybody is forced to work for the State. Most definitions of
this type of system would equate it with another term --- Slavery.
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Then they put fools like "Lamont Cranston" in charge.
LOL! Coming from a kooker moron who doesn't know what
socialism is, that's a compliment. Thank you very much!
I know VERY WELL what socialism is: SLAVERY.
--
Remove _'s from email address to talk to me.
Lamont Cranston
2009-05-27 17:08:30 UTC
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Post by Orval Fairbairn
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you
will
always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news
outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San
Francisco
Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what
"socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they
figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not
only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in
it -
behind
the Iron Curtain.
There was never socialism behind the Iron Curtain,
only
communism, thus proving that you don't know that
socialism
is.
Hitler had socialism -- National Socialism!
It wasn't socialism, moron, it was the exact opposite.
That's why it was called "National Socialism." You
probably
believe that China is a republic.
Socialism, Communism, Fascism are ALL oppressive
schemes,
which remove
the rights of the individual and make them subservient
to
the State.
Wrong. Socialism is an economic system in which the
means
of production and distribution of goods and services are
publicly owned. It's nothing more than that, except to
you
wingnuts who make up your own definitions for words.
..... and everybody is forced to work for the State.
Wrong. Nobody is forced to work at all.
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Most definitions
of this type of system would equate it with another
term --- Slavery.
You're totally fucking clueless.
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Then they put fools like "Lamont Cranston" in charge.
LOL! Coming from a kooker moron who doesn't know what
socialism is, that's a compliment. Thank you very much!
I know VERY WELL what socialism is: SLAVERY.
You have no fucking clue what socialism is.
kujebak
2009-05-27 18:38:44 UTC
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On May 27, 10:08 am, "Lamont Cranston"
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you
will
always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news
outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San
Francisco
Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what
"socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they
figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not
only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in
it -
behind
the Iron Curtain.
There was never socialism behind the Iron Curtain,
only
communism, thus proving that you don't know that
socialism
is.
Hitler had socialism -- National Socialism!
It wasn't socialism, moron, it was the exact opposite.
That's why it was called "National Socialism."  You
probably
believe that China is a republic.
Socialism, Communism, Fascism are ALL oppressive
schemes,
which remove
the rights of the individual and make them subservient
to
the State.
Wrong.  Socialism is an economic system in which the
means
of production and distribution of goods and services are
publicly owned.  It's nothing more than that, except to
you
wingnuts who make up your own definitions for words.
..... and everybody is forced to work for the State.
Wrong.  Nobody is forced to work at all.
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Most definitions
of this type of system would equate it with another
term --- Slavery.
You're totally fucking clueless.
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Then they put fools like "Lamont Cranston" in charge.
LOL!  Coming from a kooker moron who doesn't know what
socialism is, that's a compliment.  Thank you very much!
I know VERY WELL what socialism is: SLAVERY.
You have no fucking clue what socialism is.- Hide quoted text -
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And you clearly don't either, so please allow me
to make one last attempt to explain it to you. There
are only three possible forms of economic synergism
in human society. Capitalism, socialism, and com-
munism. Of the three, only two involve free choice –
capitalism, which is based on exchange of goods
and services of equal economic value, and com-
munism, in which goods and services are produced,
and given up freely for means of sustenance. Only
socialism involves an involuntary economic mecha-
nism, which is the expropriation of the fruit of one’s
effort by a progressive tax system. A society which
imposes progressive taxation upon its members who
are capable of producing more economic value than
they need to sustain themselves is in fact a dictator-
ship - a dictatorship, which must necessarily dispense
with the fundamental presumption of American style
of democracy that “human rights” are inextricably tied
to, and cannot be in any way separated from “property
rights”. Early pioneers of economic collectivism (the
Russian Bolsheviks) had no qualms calling this kind
of economic system what it really was – dictatorship
of the proletariat.
Daniel
2009-05-27 19:46:37 UTC
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Post by Orval Fairbairn
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you
will
always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San
Francisco
Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what
"socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they
figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not
only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in
it -
behind
the Iron Curtain.
There was never socialism behind the Iron Curtain,
only
communism, thus proving that you don't know that
socialism
is.
Hitler had socialism -- National Socialism!
It wasn't socialism, moron, it was the exact opposite.
That's why it was called "National Socialism."  You
probably
believe that China is a republic.
Socialism, Communism, Fascism are ALL oppressive schemes,
which remove
the rights of the individual and make them subservient to
the State.
Wrong.  Socialism is an economic system in which the means
of production and distribution of goods and services are
publicly owned.  It's nothing more than that, except to you
wingnuts who make up your own definitions for words.
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Then hey put fools like "Lamont Cranston" in charge.
LOL!  Coming from a kooker moron who doesn't know what
socialism is, that's a compliment.  Thank you very much!
Oops, looks like I caught you not only lying, but being a complete leg-
humping retard.

so⋅cial⋅ism  /ˈsoʊʃəˌlɪzəm/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [soh-shuh-liz-
uhm] Show IPA
–noun (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the
transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect
implementation of collectivist principles.
Tazmanian Devil
2009-05-30 16:18:10 UTC
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Post by Orval Fairbairn
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by Orval Fairbairn
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will
always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco
Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what "socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they
figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it -
behind
the Iron Curtain.
There was never socialism behind the Iron Curtain, only
communism, thus proving that you don't know that
socialism
is.
Hitler had socialism -- National Socialism!
It wasn't socialism, moron, it was the exact opposite.
That's why it was called "National Socialism." You probably
believe that China is a republic.
Socialism, Communism, Fascism are ALL oppressive schemes
As it turns out, so is capitalism.

kujebak
2009-05-26 22:19:52 UTC
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Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will
always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco
Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what "socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it -
behind
the Iron Curtain.
There was never socialism behind the Iron Curtain, only
communism, thus proving that you don't know that socialism
is.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
"There was never socialism behind the Iron Curtain"?

Boy, are we confused :-))))

Lenin's "dictatorship of the proletariat", and socialism,
as an economic order were transitory stages in the
ultimate design to create a social/economic ideal called
Communism. Marxist (for that is the proper term - not
"communist") Russia took 70 years of trying to create
that kind of society, and, as I'm you know ;-) failed.
Communism, as economic system has never existed
on the face of the earth in modern history.

Where did you go to school? California?
Figures ;-))
Lamont Cranston
2009-05-27 13:35:21 UTC
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On May 26, 7:27 am, "Lamont Cranston"
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will
always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco
Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what
"socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they
figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it -
behind
the Iron Curtain.
There was never socialism behind the Iron Curtain, only
communism, thus proving that you don't know that
socialism
is.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
"There was never socialism behind the Iron Curtain"?
Nope. There was communism behind the Iron Curtain.
Boy, are we confused :-))))
You most certainly are.
Lenin's "dictatorship of the proletariat", and socialism,
as an economic order were transitory stages in the
ultimate design to create a social/economic ideal called
Communism.
Yep, that's what existed behind the Iron Curtain. Socialism
has existed to varying degrees in Western Europe.
Marxist (for that is the proper term - not
"communist")
LOL! Now you're going to worry about using the correct
word? You wingnut kookers are funny.
Russia took 70 years of trying to create
that kind of society, and, as I'm you know ;-) failed.
Communism, as economic system has never existed
on the face of the earth in modern history.
Communism existed in the U.S.S.R. for years and still exists
in China and Cuba.
Where did you go to school? California?
Figures ;-))
It's obvious that you didn't go to school at all. It's not
too late. Adult education classes are available in most
cities.
kujebak
2009-05-27 14:54:31 UTC
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On May 26, 7:27 am, "Lamont Cranston"
Post by Lamont Cranston
Post by kujebak
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will
always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco
Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what
"socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they
figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it -
behind
the Iron Curtain.
There was never socialism behind the Iron Curtain, only
communism, thus proving that you don't know that
socialism
is.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
"There was never socialism behind the Iron Curtain"?
Nope.  There was communism behind the Iron Curtain.
Boy, are we confused :-))))
You most certainly are.
Lenin's "dictatorship of the proletariat", and socialism,
as an economic order were transitory stages in the
ultimate design to create a social/economic ideal called
Communism.
Yep, that's what existed behind the Iron Curtain.  Socialism
has existed to varying degrees in Western Europe.
Marxist (for that is the proper term - not
"communist")
LOL!  Now you're going to worry about using the correct
word?  You wingnut kookers are funny.
Russia took 70 years of trying to create
that kind of society, and, as I'm you know ;-) failed.
Communism, as economic system has never existed
on the face of the earth in modern history.
Communism existed in the U.S.S.R. for years and still exists
in China and Cuba.
Where did you go to school? California?
Figures ;-))
It's obvious that you didn't go to school at all.  It's not
too late.  Adult education classes are available in most
cities.- Hide quoted text -
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Except that I know what I’m talking about, since my
education was obtained mostly behind the Iron Curtain.
This is exactly what’s wrong with you neo-Marxists.
Unlike millions still enslaved by your evil creed, you’ve
always had plentyful resources to learn the truth.
You just refuse to. Even when you're old :-)
Tazmanian Devil
2009-05-30 16:15:00 UTC
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Post by MioMyo
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:36:37 -0700,
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will > >> always
believe a
Post by P***@SillyWalk.com
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco > >Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Not one conservative has any idea of what "socialism"
is---but since the GOP uses it constantly, they figure
it must be as they claim.
There are more than enough conservatives who not only
know what socialism is, but who actually lived in it - behind
the Iron Curtain.
There was never socialism behind the Iron Curtain, only communism, thus
proving that you don't know that socialism is.
He must've been home-schooled.
MioMyo
2009-05-23 12:26:33 UTC
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Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Don't keep up with the news, do you.
More than you obviously, tard. Plus I can only hope the liberal
establishment <snip>
Idiot.
Wow.. what a profoundly convincing rebuttal, filled with supporting,
credible facts and evidence......
I'm sure you were able to sell the move-on and code pink crowd with
such wit & intellect!
ROFLMFAO............
You are being written off because you are truly an idiot. You
ranted about how the current crop of initiatives were not those
of our Republican governor and you claimed it was a "tax revolt".
Read
Angry voters send message: 'It's not our job'
In the end, the only question about Gov. Arnold
Schwarzenegger's package of budget-reform measures was: How
badly will they lose?
It's simple - we are paying the legislature to work out the budget and
they aren't doing it. The primary reason is the need for a 2/3 majority
to get it done.
I tried directing you to the truth, but you will always believe a
sound-bite title by some liberal news outlet.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
You indeed are a silly boy willy. Asserting the SF Chronicle almost tops
your cut-n-paste post when you tried to sell that article as your own which
delineated the interactive properties of carbon dioxide but included
absolutely no information regarding man's contribution as proof positive of
man-made global warming.

Then a bloviating blow-hard like you wonders why you have no
credibility......

ROFLMFAO.........
Post by Bill Z.
<rest of this idiot's attempt at covering over his stupidity ignored>
Obviously willy can't deal with me having bitch slapped him upside the face
with truth & facts.......
P***@SillyWalk.com
2009-05-23 13:19:32 UTC
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On Sat, 23 May 2009 05:26:33 -0700, "MioMyo"
Post by MioMyo
Then a bloviating blow-hard like you wonders why you have no
credibility......
ANd you stamping your foot saying "is not, is not, is
not" is?
Bill Z.
2009-05-23 15:30:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
You indeed are a silly boy willy. Asserting the SF Chronicle almost
tops your cut-n-paste post when you tried to sell that article as your
own which delineated the interactive properties of carbon dioxide but
included absolutely no information regarding man's contribution as
proof positive of man-made global warming.
Bald-faced lying scumbag MioMyo has been posting lies about an
alleged cut and paste job after he could not understand a short
physics lecture.
Post by MioMyo
Then a bloviating blow-hard like you wonders why you have no
credibility......
Idiot.
MioMyo
2009-05-23 19:44:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
You indeed are a silly boy willy. Asserting the SF Chronicle almost
tops your cut-n-paste post when you tried to sell that article as your
own which delineated the interactive properties of carbon dioxide but
included absolutely no information regarding man's contribution as
proof positive of man-made global warming.
Bald-faced lying scumbag MioMyo has been posting lies about an
alleged cut and paste job after he could not understand a short
physics lecture.
Post by MioMyo
Then a bloviating blow-hard like you wonders why you have no
credibility......
Idiot.
That's why you can't nor did you even try to even the nuance details of
article. Your only contribution was an occasional introductory sound bite-
anyone could see that......
Bill Z.
2009-05-23 20:48:03 UTC
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Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by Bill Z.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Idiot.
That's why you can't nor did you even try to even the nuance details
of article. Your only contribution was an occasional introductory
sound bite-
anyone could see that......
Liar and idiot. You can't even produce coherent English sentences.
MioMyo
2009-05-23 23:02:27 UTC
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Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by Bill Z.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Idiot.
That's why you can't nor did you even try to even the nuance details
of article. Your only contribution was an occasional introductory
sound bite-
anyone could see that......
Liar and idiot. You can't even produce coherent English sentences.
In agree that my statement came out garbled. But that doesn't take away from
the fact that you can't explain (IN YOUR WORDS) the meaning of the
cu-n-paste article you posted regarding the behavior of CO2. Nor does it
take away from your twisted attempts at articulating sound arguments. I bet
you can't even explain the basic essentials of simple argument.

But do keep avoiding trying and instead attacking the messenger. Every time
you do, you prove my point even furthermore....
Bill Z.
2009-05-24 01:09:14 UTC
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Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by Bill Z.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Idiot.
That's why you can't nor did you even try to even the nuance details
of article. Your only contribution was an occasional introductory
sound bite-
anyone could see that......
Liar and idiot. You can't even produce coherent English sentences.
In agree that my statement came out garbled.
Your excuse came out garbled as well, it seems.
Post by MioMyo
But that doesn't take away from the fact that you can't explain (IN
YOUR WORDS) the meaning of the cu-n-paste article you posted
regarding the behavior of CO2. Nor does it take away from your
twisted attempts at articulating sound arguments. I bet you can't
even explain the basic essentials of simple argument.
Repeating your lies, I see. It was not a cut and paste, and your
failure to understand the physics involved in global warming is
your problem, not mine. Some people are simply not capable of
learning this material. You are apparently one of them.
Post by MioMyo
But do keep avoiding trying and instead attacking the messenger. Every
time you do, you prove my point even furthermore....
All you "prove" is that you are a liar.
P***@SillyWalk.com
2009-05-24 13:16:24 UTC
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On Sat, 23 May 2009 18:09:14 -0700,
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
But do keep avoiding trying and instead attacking the messenger. Every
time you do, you prove my point even furthermore....
All you "prove" is that you are a liar.
Whineo has been reminded a dozen times that when the
"messenger" has no legitimate "message", facts or
evidence to rebut, the acceptable thing to do is point
that out----which, in his case, is a constant reminding
him of what a dumb asshole he/she/it is.
MioMyo
2009-05-24 14:37:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by Bill Z.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Idiot.
That's why you can't nor did you even try to even the nuance details
of article. Your only contribution was an occasional introductory
sound bite-
anyone could see that......
Liar and idiot. You can't even produce coherent English sentences.
In agree that my statement came out garbled.
Your excuse came out garbled as well, it seems.
Post by MioMyo
But that doesn't take away from the fact that you can't explain (IN
YOUR WORDS) the meaning of the cu-n-paste article you posted
regarding the behavior of CO2. Nor does it take away from your
twisted attempts at articulating sound arguments. I bet you can't
even explain the basic essentials of simple argument.
Repeating your lies, I see. It was not a cut and paste, and your
failure to understand the physics involved in global warming is
your problem, not mine. Some people are simply not capable of
learning this material. You are apparently one of them.
Post by MioMyo
But do keep avoiding trying and instead attacking the messenger. Every
time you do, you prove my point even furthermore....
All you "prove" is that you are a liar.
Yet you still run away wetting your panties when I challenge you to show
what part of your post delineated man's CO2 contribution and how it is the
cause of global warming.......

What are you afraid of other than making it crystal clear that you haven't a
clue as to the science behind that data you pasted? Although I'm not
attempting to falsely prop myself up by trying to paste some intellectual
data which I can't explain like you. However, I have enough of a science &
technical background to comprehend the data you posted to see (it's rather
obvious really) that it does not SHOW or PRESENT any data regarding man's
CO2 contribution and therefore cannot make any sound conclusion with regard
to man made global warming......

While you make simple statements that your challengers are lying, I can at
least articulate a coherent reasoned argument- something you haven't the
intelligence to comprehend.......

ROFLMFAO............
P***@SillyWalk.com
2009-05-24 22:30:13 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 24 May 2009 07:37:46 -0700, "MioMyo"
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
All you "prove" is that you are a liar.
Yet you still run away wetting your panties when I challenge you to show
what part of your post delineated man's CO2 contribution and how it is the
cause of global warming.......
Prove it doesn't
Bill Z.
2009-05-25 00:07:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by Bill Z.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Idiot.
That's why you can't nor did you even try to even the nuance details
of article. Your only contribution was an occasional introductory
sound bite-
anyone could see that......
Liar and idiot. You can't even produce coherent English sentences.
In agree that my statement came out garbled.
Your excuse came out garbled as well, it seems.
Post by MioMyo
But that doesn't take away from the fact that you can't explain (IN
YOUR WORDS) the meaning of the cu-n-paste article you posted
regarding the behavior of CO2. Nor does it take away from your
twisted attempts at articulating sound arguments. I bet you can't
even explain the basic essentials of simple argument.
Repeating your lies, I see. It was not a cut and paste, and your
failure to understand the physics involved in global warming is
your problem, not mine. Some people are simply not capable of
learning this material. You are apparently one of them.
Post by MioMyo
But do keep avoiding trying and instead attacking the messenger. Every
time you do, you prove my point even furthermore....
All you "prove" is that you are a liar.
Yet you still run away wetting your panties when I challenge you to
show what part of your post delineated man's CO2 contribution and how
it is the cause of global warming.......
Lying idiot.
Post by MioMyo
What are you afraid of other than making it crystal clear that you
haven't a clue as to the science behind that data you pasted? Although
I'm not attempting to falsely prop myself up by trying to paste some
intellectual data which I can't explain like you.
Bald-faced liar - I provided a discussion describing blackbody radiation
and how global warming works. It's basic physics. I'm certainly more
than competent to do that.
Wilson Woods
2009-05-25 00:34:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by Bill Z.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Idiot.
That's why you can't nor did you even try to even the nuance details
of article. Your only contribution was an occasional introductory
sound bite-
anyone could see that......
Liar and idiot. You can't even produce coherent English sentences.
In agree that my statement came out garbled.
Your excuse came out garbled as well, it seems.
Post by MioMyo
But that doesn't take away from the fact that you can't explain (IN
YOUR WORDS) the meaning of the cu-n-paste article you posted
regarding the behavior of CO2. Nor does it take away from your
twisted attempts at articulating sound arguments. I bet you can't
even explain the basic essentials of simple argument.
Repeating your lies, I see. It was not a cut and paste, and your
failure to understand the physics involved in global warming is
your problem, not mine. Some people are simply not capable of
learning this material. You are apparently one of them.
Post by MioMyo
But do keep avoiding trying and instead attacking the messenger. Every
time you do, you prove my point even furthermore....
All you "prove" is that you are a liar.
Yet you still run away wetting your panties when I challenge you to
show what part of your post delineated man's CO2 contribution and how
it is the cause of global warming.......
Lying idiot.
Not an intelligent retort.
P***@SillyWalk.com
2009-05-25 14:40:19 UTC
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On Sun, 24 May 2009 17:34:22 -0700, Wilson Woods
Post by Wilson Woods
Post by Bill Z.
Lying idiot.
Not an intelligent retort.
But truthful?
Bill Z.
2009-05-25 16:19:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Wilson Woods
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by MioMyo
Post by Bill Z.
Post by Bill Z.
You have no idea of the truth and the San Francisco Chronicle is
not a "liberal news outlet".
Idiot.
That's why you can't nor did you even try to even the nuance details
of article. Your only contribution was an occasional introductory
sound bite-
anyone could see that......
Liar and idiot. You can't even produce coherent English sentences.
In agree that my statement came out garbled.
Your excuse came out garbled as well, it seems.
Post by MioMyo
But that doesn't take away from the fact that you can't explain (IN
YOUR WORDS) the meaning of the cu-n-paste article you posted
regarding the behavior of CO2. Nor does it take away from your
twisted attempts at articulating sound arguments. I bet you can't
even explain the basic essentials of simple argument.
Repeating your lies, I see. It was not a cut and paste, and your
failure to understand the physics involved in global warming is
your problem, not mine. Some people are simply not capable of
learning this material. You are apparently one of them.
Post by MioMyo
But do keep avoiding trying and instead attacking the messenger. Every
time you do, you prove my point even furthermore....
All you "prove" is that you are a liar.
Yet you still run away wetting your panties when I challenge you to
show what part of your post delineated man's CO2 contribution and how
it is the cause of global warming.......
Lying idiot.
Not an intelligent retort.
Actually, a very intelligent "retort" - why waste much time on these
idiots?
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