Discussion:
Air America Files For Bankruptcy
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Stan de SD
2006-10-16 20:01:39 UTC
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Business model, schmusiness model. Not enough people wanted to
stick around for the programs that AA was offering, so the
sponsors
stayed away in droves.
The experts in the field don't agree with you. Deal.
Y'know, Tim, I once heard that the Iliad and the Oddyssey weren't
written by Homer after all, but by another blind Greek of the same
name.
I can see why you want to change the subject. But it doesn't change
the
basic fact: The network took an unusual approach to the radio business
from its start.
You mean it tried to push something people won't listen to, and
therefore
advertisers won't spend money on, right?
Why did you clip the rest? You're such a dishonest little creep. You
KNOW you are wrong and the only way you try to save face is to clip the
facts. You're a lowly lying weasel.
You have spouted your silly-assed nonsense plenty of time, so there was no
need to post your entire diatribe. Once again, AA failed simply because very
few people (even among liberals) wanted to listen to their crap, and
advertisers realize that the professional wack-doodle malcontent crowd isn't
a good target for their advertising dollars. End of story...
Stan de SD
2006-10-16 22:32:30 UTC
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Now, continue ranting [Timmy] if you will, but you're merely making
an ass of yourself.
Timmy did that long ago.
yawn. all these insults and still no facts.
"This has more to do with how [Air America] structured its business,"
said Tom Taylor, the editor of Inside Radio, an industry newsletter.
Weasel words to cover the fact that the assumptions of AAR crowd on how
radio works are dead wrong. The Air America crowd started with the
assumption that evil greedy corporate radio owners were deliberately
shutting out self-styled "progressive" voices, and that if somehow they
could conduct some type of top-down command-economy approach (buy out the
radio stations and make them run the programming) the audience would
respond. Well, it turns out that their understanding of how the market works
in radio is about as lacking as it is with most economic matters. The
programming was there - but people didn't care to listen. Lesson to be
learned (at least by people smarter than Tim Crowley) - the force-feed
approach that may work with crappy pop music on adolescents doesn't fly with
people who know they have choices and can vote with their tuners. Like it or
not, conservative talk radio became a smashing commercial success because a
large enough group of people were longing for an alternative to major media
(and what passed for "alternative" in the form of public radio) and wanted a
voice. The fact that the format is a runaway favorite with those who work
for a living and have their own money to spend is the music that the
advertisers want to hear, regardless of the political POV of the content in
particular. Whether you (or I) personally think that's good or bad, right or
wrong, fair or unfair, doesn't really matter. Stop taking the spin so
seriously, and learn to deal with reality... :O|
Stan de SD
2006-10-16 22:53:41 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Business model, schmusiness model. Not enough people wanted to
stick around for the programs that AA was offering, so the
sponsors
stayed away in droves.
The experts in the field don't agree with you. Deal.
Y'know, Tim, I once heard that the Iliad and the Oddyssey weren't
written by Homer after all, but by another blind Greek of the same
name.
I can see why you want to change the subject. But it doesn't change
the
basic fact: The network took an unusual approach to the radio business
from its start.
You mean it tried to push something people won't listen to, and
therefore
advertisers won't spend money on, right?
Why did you clip the rest? You're such a dishonest little creep. You
KNOW you are wrong and the only way you try to save face is to clip the
facts. You're a lowly lying weasel.
You have spouted your silly-assed nonsense plenty of time,
Actually, that was the first time I posted that sentence, liar. And
here you are unable to say exactly what is "silly assed" about it.
What's "silly-assed" is your inability to face reality - Air America tried
to "buy" a market under the assumption that their POV didn't have a voice
because conservative-owned radio stations were denying them access. The fact
of the matter is that their format doesn't work because nobody wanted to
listen to them in the first place. Whine and cry and stamp your feet all you
want - but even many liberals agree that Air America didn't have much going
for it.

(NG's restored so you can piss and moan a bit more...)
Harold Burton
2006-10-17 00:28:29 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Business model, schmusiness model. Not enough people wanted
to
Post by Stan de SD
stick around for the programs that AA was offering, so the
sponsors
stayed away in droves.
The experts in the field don't agree with you. Deal.
Y'know, Tim, I once heard that the Iliad and the Oddyssey
weren't
Post by Stan de SD
written by Homer after all, but by another blind Greek of the
same
Post by Stan de SD
name.
I can see why you want to change the subject. But it doesn't
change
Post by Stan de SD
the
basic fact: The network took an unusual approach to the radio
business
Post by Stan de SD
from its start.
You mean it tried to push something people won't listen to, and
therefore
advertisers won't spend money on, right?
Why did you clip the rest? You're such a dishonest little creep. You
KNOW you are wrong and the only way you try to save face is to clip
the
Post by Stan de SD
facts. You're a lowly lying weasel.
You have spouted your silly-assed nonsense plenty of time,
Actually, that was the first time I posted that sentence, liar. And
here you are unable to say exactly what is "silly assed" about it.
What's "silly-assed" is your inability to face reality - Air America tried
to "buy" a market under the assumption that their POV didn't have a voice
because conservative-owned radio stations were denying them access. The fact
of the matter is that their format doesn't work because nobody wanted to
listen to them in the first place. Whine and cry and stamp your feet all you
want - but even many liberals agree that Air America didn't have much going
for it....
...other than George Soros' money and even though he's a leftard, he's
not as stupid as the rest of them, "...he said he wouldn't write a
check without expecting a measurable return for his money." That was a
pretty big "gotcha". heheheheheheheh.
Dan Clore
2006-10-16 23:58:26 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Business model, schmusiness model. Not enough people wanted to
stick around for the programs that AA was offering, so the
sponsors
stayed away in droves.
The experts in the field don't agree with you. Deal.
Y'know, Tim, I once heard that the Iliad and the Oddyssey weren't
written by Homer after all, but by another blind Greek of the same
name.
I can see why you want to change the subject. But it doesn't change
the
basic fact: The network took an unusual approach to the radio business
from its start.
You mean it tried to push something people won't listen to, and
therefore
advertisers won't spend money on, right?
Why did you clip the rest? You're such a dishonest little creep. You
KNOW you are wrong and the only way you try to save face is to clip the
facts. You're a lowly lying weasel.
You have spouted your silly-assed nonsense plenty of time, so there was no
need to post your entire diatribe. Once again, AA failed simply because very
few people (even among liberals) wanted to listen to their crap, and
advertisers realize that the professional wack-doodle malcontent crowd isn't
a good target for their advertising dollars. End of story...
Air America is undergoing a financial restructuring (of
which the Chapter 11 filing is a part), but is not going off
the air or out of business. And even someone who listens to
it as little as I do knows that they have plenty of advertisers.
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Harold Burton
2006-10-17 00:29:28 UTC
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Post by Dan Clore
Post by Stan de SD
Business model, schmusiness model. Not enough people wanted to
stick around for the programs that AA was offering, so the
sponsors
stayed away in droves.
The experts in the field don't agree with you. Deal.
Y'know, Tim, I once heard that the Iliad and the Oddyssey weren't
written by Homer after all, but by another blind Greek of the same
name.
I can see why you want to change the subject. But it doesn't change
the
basic fact: The network took an unusual approach to the radio business
from its start.
You mean it tried to push something people won't listen to, and
therefore
advertisers won't spend money on, right?
Why did you clip the rest? You're such a dishonest little creep. You
KNOW you are wrong and the only way you try to save face is to clip the
facts. You're a lowly lying weasel.
You have spouted your silly-assed nonsense plenty of time, so there was no
need to post your entire diatribe. Once again, AA failed simply because very
few people (even among liberals) wanted to listen to their crap, and
advertisers realize that the professional wack-doodle malcontent crowd isn't
a good target for their advertising dollars. End of story...
Air America is undergoing a financial restructuring (of
which the Chapter 11 filing is a part), but is not going off
the air or out of business...
...tomorrow. It will probably take a few weeks for the final death
knell to sound.
Stan de SD
2006-10-17 00:51:51 UTC
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Post by Dan Clore
Post by Stan de SD
Business model, schmusiness model. Not enough people wanted to
stick around for the programs that AA was offering, so the
sponsors
stayed away in droves.
The experts in the field don't agree with you. Deal.
Y'know, Tim, I once heard that the Iliad and the Oddyssey weren't
written by Homer after all, but by another blind Greek of the same
name.
I can see why you want to change the subject. But it doesn't change
the
basic fact: The network took an unusual approach to the radio business
from its start.
You mean it tried to push something people won't listen to, and
therefore
advertisers won't spend money on, right?
Why did you clip the rest? You're such a dishonest little creep. You
KNOW you are wrong and the only way you try to save face is to clip the
facts. You're a lowly lying weasel.
You have spouted your silly-assed nonsense plenty of time, so there was no
need to post your entire diatribe. Once again, AA failed simply because very
few people (even among liberals) wanted to listen to their crap, and
advertisers realize that the professional wack-doodle malcontent crowd isn't
a good target for their advertising dollars. End of story...
Air America is undergoing a financial restructuring (of
which the Chapter 11 filing is a part), but is not going off
the air or out of business. And even someone who listens to
it as little as I do knows that they have plenty of advertisers.
Yet they are in financial doo-doo. Given that advertising rates are based on
the size of the audience, it's clear that they don't have much of one...
Merlin Dorfman
2006-10-22 14:49:37 UTC
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In ba.general Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:

...
Post by Stan de SD
You have spouted your silly-assed nonsense plenty of time, so there was no
need to post your entire diatribe. Once again, AA failed simply because very
few people (even among liberals) wanted to listen to their crap, and
advertisers realize that the professional wack-doodle malcontent crowd isn't
a good target for their advertising dollars. End of story...
Yes, and all those airlines are bankrupt because nobody wants
to fly. So if you buy a ticket, you will have almost the whole
airplane to yourself :-)
(BTW, if Rush's audience can't be described as "professional
wack-doodle malcontents," nobody can.)
Steven
2006-10-22 15:37:30 UTC
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NOTE: If you keep posting more to more than five groups, I will be
forced to cut at random (Google doesn't allow more than 5), so your
message will be butchered every time for some of them. Learn to send in
blocks if you want to spam effectively.

Geebus!
Post by Merlin Dorfman
...
Post by Stan de SD
You have spouted your silly-assed nonsense plenty of time, so there was no
need to post your entire diatribe. Once again, AA failed simply because very
few people (even among liberals) wanted to listen to their crap, and
advertisers realize that the professional wack-doodle malcontent crowd isn't
a good target for their advertising dollars. End of story...
Yes, and all those airlines are bankrupt because nobody wants
to fly. So if you buy a ticket, you will have almost the whole
airplane to yourself :-)
(BTW, if Rush's audience can't be described as "professional
wack-doodle malcontents," nobody can.)
I thought that was because four of them got hijacked in 2001 and three
went into buildings in metro areas killing thousands, and maybe because
some guy with explosives in his shoes made it useless to know if they
would confiscate your left testicle in the name of freedom today, then
oil prices wen on 3-4 rollercoaster rides, blah blah yada ding dong...

The Europeans are so weary of this they've tried to help you rid your
mind of OBL twice, but NOOOO, you couldn't believe them and had to
prove them fibbers!

I'm staying right here in my own little town...if we get bombed, it may
be a favor.

We return you to the WJR studios with Ted Baxter...
Mike Van Pelt
2006-10-23 06:38:51 UTC
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Post by Steven
We return you to the WJR studios with Ted Baxter...
What about WKRP with Les Nesman.

"Oh, the humanity!"
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KE6BVH
Steven
2006-10-23 06:48:36 UTC
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Post by Mike Van Pelt
Post by Steven
We return you to the WJR studios with Ted Baxter...
What about WKRP with Les Nesman.
"Oh, the humanity!"
I hope pork prices don't fluctuate so I can continue to afford bacon a
little (where is my hog futures report, Fever)?

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