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November 3, 2008

Young Vietnamese-Americans abandoning Republican Party
By Ken McLaughlin / San Jose Mercury News

SAN JOSE, Calif. - For years after Saigon fell to the North Vietnamese
in 1975, the tiny contingent of Vietnamese emigres in the United
States who chose to join the Democratic Party stayed quiet.

"Many in the Vietnamese community felt Democrats were just too soft on
communism and too weak on defense," recalls Minh Steven Dovan, a San
Jose attorney who says he rarely told fellow members of the emigre
community that he was a registered Democrat. Other emigres say that
some Republican Vietnamese went as far as dubbing the Democrats in
their midst "communist sympathizers."

But more than three decades after communist tanks rolled into Saigon,
young Vietnamese-Americans are abandoning the Republican Party in
droves, according to a San Jose Mercury News computer analysis of
nearly 30,000 new Santa Clara County voters. By plugging Vietnamese
surnames into a data base, the analysis shows that Vietnamese-
Americans age 30 and under are registering Democratic over Republican
by nearly 4 to 1.

"That is really amazing," said Dovan, 57, "particularly when you think
of the generational turnaround."

Other Vietnamese emigres say the trend has crystallized in recent
years - especially since Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, who is
exceedingly popular with youth, began running for president nearly two
years ago.

"It’s easy to understand," said Loc Vu, a former colonel in the South
Vietnamese army who now heads San Jose’s IRCC Immigrant Resettlement
and Cultural Center. "The young Vietnamese who were born in this
country are the same as the other American kids. They all go to school
together. They’re open-minded and they’re part of the new generation
of young voters. They have different ideas than the older Vietnamese."

Like most in his generation, the 75-year-old Vu, currently not
registered with any party, plans to vote for Republican John McCain.

Because McCain survived years of torture in a North Vietnamese POW
camp, many older Vietnamese consider him a hero. Many emigres even see
irony in the fact that South Vietnamese military leaders were sent to
forced-labor camps for "re-education" only two years after McCain was
released from the infamous prison camp dubbed the Hanoi Hilton.

"Many South Vietnamese were going into the communist jails," Vu said,
"as McCain was getting out of one."

Still, "I understand why the young people like Obama," Vu said. "And
that’s OK."

Hung Duc Lai of San Jose, a former South Vietnamese army captain and
longtime general secretary of the Coalition of Nationalist Vietnamese
Organizations of Northern California, also understands. He and his
wife, Mai, are staunch Republicans, and their two twentysomething
daughters are ardent Democrats.

"It’s a free country," Lai, 61, said with a laugh.

Overall, Vietnamese emigres are still strongly Republican - a fact
reflected in a ground-breaking national poll of Asian-Americans
released last month by the University of California-Berkeley and three
other major universities.

The poll found that all Asian-American groups with the exception of
Vietnamese-Americans supported Obama over McCain. Fifty-one percent of
Vietnamese-Americans said they were for McCain; 24 percent were for
Obama, with the rest undecided.

But a deeper analysis of the poll shows the generational split.

Forty-five percent of Vietnamese-American likely voters age 40 and
older told pollsters they were Republicans, and 20 percent said they
were Democrats, according to researcher Karthick Ramakrishnan of UC-
Riverside. But 49 percent of Vietnamese-American likely voters under
age 40 identified themselves as Democrats; 16 percent said they were
Republicans.

The Vietnamese love affair with the Republican Party was highly
similar to the love Cubans showed the party after communist dictator
Fidel Castro forced them to flee to U.S. shores.

When Vietnamese started becoming citizens in the early 1980s, Ronald
Reagan was president. Reagan, a longtime Cold Warrior, was viewed by
Vietnamese emigres as the perfect commander in chief. So the
overwhelming majority of them signed on with the GOP.

"We saw Reagan as very strong - a cowboy with a lot of charm," Lai
said.

"Reagan captured Vietnamese hearts and minds in the U.S.," said Andrew
Lam, author of "Perfume Dreams: Reflections on the Vietnamese
Diaspora." And "that impression stayed with the Vietnamese here a long
time."

The impression often frustrated Dovan, the San Jose attorney, who
often points out to his Republican Vietnamese friends that two
Democratic presidents - Kennedy and Johnson - sent U.S. troops to aid
South Vietnam and that two Republican presidents - Nixon and Ford -
decided to extricate the U.S. from Vietnam. Ford, Dovan points out,
even cut off funds to South Vietnam as the communists were about to
take over.

"But it doesn’t seem to matter, just as it doesn’t seem to matter that
John McCain was in favor of normalizing relations with Vietnam in the
mid-’90s," a position that anti-communist Vietnamese fiercely opposed,
Dovan said.

Most older Vietnamese emigres also forgave McCain when, during his
2000 presidential bid, he called his North Vietnamese captors "gooks"
- a disparaging term for Asians often used by U.S. troops during the
war.

Democratic Party officials first made inroads into the Vietnamese
Republican stronghold in 1992, when Bill Clinton ran for president.

Clinton even met with Vietnamese-American leaders in Orange County’s
Little Saigon. And by the end of the decade, 33 percent of new
Vietnamese-American voters in Santa Clara County were registering as
Democrats and 28 percent as Republicans, a 1999 computer analysis
showed.

Since then, as Vietnamese immigration has slowed and the number of
American-born Vietnamese has jumped, Democratic causes such as social
and economic justice have taken root in the community.

Quynh Lai, Hung Duc Lai’s 27-year-old daughter, a marine biology
student at San Jose State University, said it was an easy call to go
with the Democrats when she registered to vote at age 18.

Originally, she was most concerned with the abortion issue. "I knew
that I believed that I should have control over my own body," she
said. "I couldn’t believe that it was even an issue."

Now, nine years later, her biggest concerns are protecting the
environment and gay rights - and she still feels that Democratic
positions better match her views.

"I have a lot of gay friends," she said. "People need to be treated
equally."

She and her sister, 23-year-old Uyen, both attended Vietnamese school
on Sundays in San Jose for several years and have a solid
understanding of Vietnam’s history. They understand how their mother
and father lost their country. They understand why they support the
Republicans and John McCain.

The sisters say they love and respect their parents but just don’t
like the GOP.

"Republicans are conservative and want things to stay the same," said
Uyen Lai, who recently graduated with a B.A. in psychology from San
Jose State. "I want to see change."

___

(San Jose Mercury News news research director Leigh Poitinger
contributed to this report.)


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November 3, 2008
Young Vietnamese-Americans abandoning Republican Party
By Ken McLaughlin / San Jose Mercury News
SAN JOSE, Calif. - For years after Saigon fell to the North Vietnamese
in 1975, the tiny contingent of Vietnamese emigres in the United
States who chose to join the Democratic Party stayed quiet.
"Many in the Vietnamese community felt Democrats were just too soft on
communism and too weak on defense," recalls Minh Steven Dovan, a San
Jose attorney who says he rarely told fellow members of the emigre
community that he was a registered Democrat. Other emigres say that
some Republican Vietnamese went as far as dubbing the Democrats in
their midst "communist sympathizers."
But more than three decades after communist tanks rolled into Saigon,
young Vietnamese-Americans are abandoning the Republican Party in
droves, according to a San Jose Mercury News computer analysis of
nearly 30,000 new Santa Clara County voters. By plugging Vietnamese
surnames into a data base, the analysis shows that Vietnamese-
Americans age 30 and under are registering Democratic over Republican
by nearly 4 to 1.
"That is really amazing," said Dovan, 57, "particularly when you think
of the generational turnaround."
Other Vietnamese emigres say the trend has crystallized in recent
years - especially since Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, who is
exceedingly popular with youth, began running for president nearly two
years ago.
"It’s easy to understand," said Loc Vu, a former colonel in the South
Vietnamese army who now heads San Jose’s IRCC Immigrant Resettlement
and Cultural Center. "The young Vietnamese who were born in this
country are the same as the other American kids. They all go to school
together. They’re open-minded and they’re part of the new generation
of young voters. They have different ideas than the older Vietnamese."
Like most in his generation, the 75-year-old Vu, currently not
registered with any party, plans to vote for Republican John McCain.
Because McCain survived years of torture in a North Vietnamese POW
camp, many older Vietnamese consider him a hero. Many emigres even see
irony in the fact that South Vietnamese military leaders were sent to
forced-labor camps for "re-education" only two years after McCain was
released from the infamous prison camp dubbed the Hanoi Hilton.
"Many South Vietnamese were going into the communist jails," Vu said,
"as McCain was getting out of one."
Still, "I understand why the young people like Obama," Vu said. "And
that’s OK."
Hung Duc Lai of San Jose, a former South Vietnamese army captain and
longtime general secretary of the Coalition of Nationalist Vietnamese
Organizations of Northern California, also understands. He and his
wife, Mai, are staunch Republicans, and their two twentysomething
daughters are ardent Democrats.
"It’s a free country," Lai, 61, said with a laugh.
Overall, Vietnamese emigres are still strongly Republican - a fact
reflected in a ground-breaking national poll of Asian-Americans
released last month by the University of California-Berkeley and three
other major universities.
The poll found that all Asian-American groups with the exception of
Vietnamese-Americans supported Obama over McCain. Fifty-one percent of
Vietnamese-Americans said they were for McCain; 24 percent were for
Obama, with the rest undecided.
But a deeper analysis of the poll shows the generational split.
Forty-five percent of Vietnamese-American likely voters age 40 and
older told pollsters they were Republicans, and 20 percent said they
were Democrats, according to researcher Karthick Ramakrishnan of UC-
Riverside. But 49 percent of Vietnamese-American likely voters under
age 40 identified themselves as Democrats; 16 percent said they were
Republicans.
The Vietnamese love affair with the Republican Party was highly
similar to the love Cubans showed the party after communist dictator
Fidel Castro forced them to flee to U.S. shores.
When Vietnamese started becoming citizens in the early 1980s, Ronald
Reagan was president. Reagan, a longtime Cold Warrior, was viewed by
Vietnamese emigres as the perfect commander in chief. So the
overwhelming majority of them signed on with the GOP.
"We saw Reagan as very strong - a cowboy with a lot of charm," Lai
said.
"Reagan captured Vietnamese hearts and minds in the U.S.," said Andrew
Lam, author of "Perfume Dreams: Reflections on the Vietnamese
Diaspora." And "that impression stayed with the Vietnamese here a long
time."
The impression often frustrated Dovan, the San Jose attorney, who
often points out to his Republican Vietnamese friends that two
Democratic presidents - Kennedy and Johnson - sent U.S. troops to aid
South Vietnam and that two Republican presidents - Nixon and Ford -
decided to extricate the U.S. from Vietnam. Ford, Dovan points out,
even cut off funds to South Vietnam as the communists were about to
take over.
"But it doesn’t seem to matter, just as it doesn’t seem to matter that
John McCain was in favor of normalizing relations with Vietnam in the
mid-’90s," a position that anti-communist Vietnamese fiercely opposed,
Dovan said.
Most older Vietnamese emigres also forgave McCain when, during his
2000 presidential bid, he called his North Vietnamese captors "gooks"
- a disparaging term for Asians often used by U.S. troops during the
war.
Democratic Party officials first made inroads into the Vietnamese
Republican stronghold in 1992, when Bill Clinton ran for president.
Clinton even met with Vietnamese-American leaders in Orange County’s
Little Saigon. And by the end of the decade, 33 percent of new
Vietnamese-American voters in Santa Clara County were registering as
Democrats and 28 percent as Republicans, a 1999 computer analysis
showed.
Since then, as Vietnamese immigration has slowed and the number of
American-born Vietnamese has jumped, Democratic causes such as social
and economic justice have taken root in the community.
Quynh Lai, Hung Duc Lai’s 27-year-old daughter, a marine biology
student at San Jose State University, said it was an easy call to go
with the Democrats when she registered to vote at age 18.
Originally, she was most concerned with the abortion issue. "I knew
that I believed that I should have control over my own body," she
said. "I couldn’t believe that it was even an issue."
Now, nine years later, her biggest concerns are protecting the
environment and gay rights - and she still feels that Democratic
positions better match her views.
"I have a lot of gay friends," she said. "People need to be treated
equally."
She and her sister, 23-year-old Uyen, both attended Vietnamese school
on Sundays in San Jose for several years and have a solid
understanding of Vietnam’s history. They understand how their mother
and father lost their country. They understand why they support the
Republicans and John McCain.
The sisters say they love and respect their parents but just don’t
like the GOP.
"Republicans are conservative and want things to stay the same," said
Uyen Lai, who recently graduated with a B.A. in psychology from San
Jose State. "I want to see change."
___
(San Jose Mercury News news research director Leigh Poitinger
contributed to this report.)
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Why Little Saigon and Hanoi Found Common Ground in John McCain
New America Media, Commentary, Andrew Lam, Posted: Oct 30, 2008

Editor's Note: As the U.S. Presidential Election draws near, both
Hanoi and Little Saigon have suddenly found common ground and
enthusiasm in one man: Sen. John McCain. Andrew Lam is an editor at
New America Media. Lam is the author of Perfume Dreams: Reflections on
the Vietnamese Diaspora.

SAN FRANCISCO - If Ho Chi Minh, the father of Vietnamese communism, is
idolized in Hanoi and hated in Little Saigon, Orange County, it is to
be expected. Hanoi, the stronghold of the Vietnamese Communist Party,
and Little Saigon, formed by those it forced into exile, have never
seen eye to eye on any modern political figure or issue.

That is, until now. As the U.S. presidential election date draws near,
both sides have suddenly found common ground and enthusiasm in one
man: Sen. John McCain.

The 2008 National Asian American Survey recently found that among
Asian groups, Vietnamese Americans are by far the most conservative:
two out of three said they would vote for McCain.

The Los Angeles Times recently published an article exploring why, but
its sub-headline seems to say it all: "Vietnamese voters -- many of
whom were tortured in North Vietnamese prisons like McCain -- say they
identify with the Arizona senator and believe he'll support their
causes." And what are those causes? Religious freedom and a multi-
party system for Vietnam, and ultimately the eradication of the
Communist Party.

The trouble is, those who believe that McCain is on their side
shouldn't hold their breath. It is at best wishful thinking and at
worst politically naive. McCain, despite his past of being jailed in a
communist prison, has been palling around with the Hanoi regime since
the early 1990s. With the help of fellow Vietnam vet Sen. John Kerry,
he was instrumental in efforts to lift the U.S. embargo on Vietnam,
then followed up with normalization with the country under Bill
Clinton, and a push for more beneficial trade pacts under George W.
Bush.


As for democracy and freedom in Vietnam? In 2001 and 2004 the two
Johns collaborated to block the Vietnam Human Rights Act in the
Senate, though in 2004 it passed 410-to-1 in the House. The bill, had
it become law, would have tied U.S. humanitarian aid to Vietnam's
human rights record. For his efforts, John Kerry, who fought to defend
South Vietnam from communism, became a hated man in Little Saigon, and
they showed it in the 2004 election by voting overwhelmingly for Bush,
who managed to avoid the Vietnam War by serving in the National Guard.
Oddly enough, John McCain remained their hero.

But why do so many Vietnamese Americans consistently vote Republican?
Party loyalty. President Gerald Ford, a Republican, at the end of the
Vietnam War, championed Vietnamese refugees' causes and helped many
settle in the United States. Vietnamese refugees to the United States
subsequently found strength and inspiration in Ronald Reagan, who
stood steadfast against communism during the Cold War and who made
boat people into political symbols of the horror of communism. Many
credited Reagan for bringing down the Iron Curtain. That party
affiliation and loyalty remains strong even if the current Republican
president didn’t measure up to the old Gipper.

George W. Bush, in fact, went the other way. While Vietnamese
Americans rallied to vote for him in 2004, he went on Fox TV on Sept.
27, 2004 and maligned South Vietnam while trying to beef up support
for the war in Iraq. In an interview with Bill O'Reilly, he agreed
with his host's premise that the South Vietnamese didn't fight for
their freedom and therefore didn't deserve it, whereas Iraqis, he
said, were willing to do so.

[O'REILLY: The South Vietnamese didn't fight for their freedom, which
is why they don't have it today.

BUSH: Yes.

O'REILLY: Do you think the Iraqis are going to fight for their
freedom?

BUSH: Absolutely.
O'REILLY: You do?]

In effect, Bush and O'Reilly disparaged the United States' former
allies, never mind that 250,000 South Vietnam soldiers died fighting
in that war compared to 58,000 Americans. To add salt to the wound,
Bush went to Hanoi two years later in 2006 for the APEC (Asia-Pacific
Economic Cooperation) Summit and promptly took Vietnam off the United
States' "country of particular concern" list, even when dissidents
there continued to be arrested, and afterwards human rights groups
clamored for Vietnam to be put back on the list.


Now, the majority of Vietnamese Americans are banking on John McCain.
Will a McCain presidency force the issues of democracy and freedom of
religion in Vietnam?

Judging from his past record, the answer is no. After all, thanks to
McCain and Kerry's joint efforts, Vietnam has enjoyed unprecedented
economic growth in the last eight years, and the communist regime has
managed to legitimize its position on the world stage – entrance to
the World Trade Organization, a seat on UN Security Council.

While his former jailers denied ever having tortured the old flyboy
while he was a prisoner during the war, many admit fondness for McCain
and consider him an adopted son. In a Newsweek article with this
headline: "Why Vietnam Loves McCain -- They jailed him for five years.
Now they want him in the White House," the retired prison director
Tran Trong Duyet claimed McCain as a friend. Tran told Newsweek: "He
had a very determined character, held strongly conservative ideas and
was very loyal to the military and government of his country. If I
were an American, I'd vote for McCain."

Vietnamese Americans, many of whom were imprisoned by the likes of
Tran and his comrades and fled his regime, feel exactly the same way,
and will vote accordingly. If they still hate Tran, they certainly
share his enthusiasm for McCain. Politics make the strangest
bedfellows, but in a world of permanent interests, persistent loyalty
for the South Vietnamese has never paid off, neither on the
battlefield over three decades ago, nor now on the political stage.
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