Discussion:
Guess who Mississippians have turned to to improve their rural health care system?
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Spartakus
2010-01-01 03:06:47 UTC
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Mississippi has the highest levels of infant mortality, child obesity,
hypertension and teenage pregnancy in the U.S. More than 20% of its
people have no health insurance. So where are Mississippi health
professionals turning to for a model of a low-cost rural health care
system that works? The answer will surprise you:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6962844.ece

Yes, the answer is Iran. Since the 1979 revolution, health care
professionals have developed a rural health care system that have
produced stunning improvements, reducing child mortality rates by 69%
and maternal mortality from 300 per 100,000 births to 30.

Can the BEST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD learn something from the
citizens of a country whose government is preoccupied with Islamic
purity and thumbing its nose at the U.S.? Will certain political
types let it?
Stan de SD
2010-01-02 18:27:01 UTC
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Post by Spartakus
Mississippi has the highest levels of infant mortality, child obesity,
hypertension and teenage pregnancy in the U.S. More than 20% of its
people have no health insurance.  So where are Mississippi health
professionals turning to for a model of a low-cost rural health care
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article696284...
Yes, the answer is Iran.  Since the 1979 revolution, health care
professionals have developed a rural health care system that have
produced stunning improvements, reducing child mortality rates by 69%
and maternal mortality from 300 per 100,000 births to 30.
Can the BEST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD learn something from the
citizens of a country whose government is preoccupied with Islamic
purity and thumbing its nose at the U.S.?  Will certain political
types let it?
Since you lefties think free health care is the most important and/or
desired commodity by most people, and you are always crowing about how
dictatorships like Iran and Cuba have great free health care, why
don't you just MOVE there yourselves?

Personally, most of us would rather have free speech than free
healthcare...
james g. keegan jr.
2010-01-02 18:30:54 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Post by Spartakus
Mississippi has the highest levels of infant mortality, child obesity,
hypertension and teenage pregnancy in the U.S. More than 20% of its
people have no health insurance.  So where are Mississippi health
professionals turning to for a model of a low-cost rural health care
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article696284...
Yes, the answer is Iran.  Since the 1979 revolution, health care
professionals have developed a rural health care system that have
produced stunning improvements, reducing child mortality rates by 69%
and maternal mortality from 300 per 100,000 births to 30.
Can the BEST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD learn something from the
citizens of a country whose government is preoccupied with Islamic
purity and thumbing its nose at the U.S.?  Will certain political
types let it?
Since you lefties think free health care is the most important and/or
desired commodity by most people, and you are always crowing about how
dictatorships like Iran and Cuba have great free health care, why
don't you just MOVE there yourselves?
wow. i thought the "love it or leave it" wackjobs all died out 40 years
ago.
Stan de SD
2010-01-03 03:28:33 UTC
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Post by james g. keegan jr.
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Post by Stan de SD
Post by Spartakus
Mississippi has the highest levels of infant mortality, child obesity,
hypertension and teenage pregnancy in the U.S. More than 20% of its
people have no health insurance.  So where are Mississippi health
professionals turning to for a model of a low-cost rural health care
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article696284...
Yes, the answer is Iran.  Since the 1979 revolution, health care
professionals have developed a rural health care system that have
produced stunning improvements, reducing child mortality rates by 69%
and maternal mortality from 300 per 100,000 births to 30.
Can the BEST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD learn something from the
citizens of a country whose government is preoccupied with Islamic
purity and thumbing its nose at the U.S.?  Will certain political
types let it?
Since you lefties think free health care is the most important and/or
desired commodity by most people, and you are always crowing about how
dictatorships like Iran and Cuba have great free health care, why
don't you just MOVE there yourselves?
wow. i thought the "love it or leave it" wackjobs all died out 40 years
ago.
I don't know about "love it or leave it", but you're clearly still
around, which effectively refutes the idea that all the wackjobs died
out...
5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09
2010-01-02 19:28:45 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Post by Spartakus
Mississippi has the highest levels of infant mortality, child obesity,
hypertension and teenage pregnancy in the U.S. More than 20% of its
people have no health insurance.  So where are Mississippi health
professionals turning to for a model of a low-cost rural health care
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/
article696284...
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Spartakus
Yes, the answer is Iran.  Since the 1979 revolution, health care
professionals have developed a rural health care system that have
produced stunning improvements, reducing child mortality rates by 69%
and maternal mortality from 300 per 100,000 births to 30.
Can the BEST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD learn something from the
citizens of a country whose government is preoccupied with Islamic
purity and thumbing its nose at the U.S.?  Will certain political types
let it?
Since you lefties think free health care is the most important and/or
desired commodity by most people, and you are always crowing about how
dictatorships like Iran and Cuba have great free health care, why don't
you just MOVE there yourselves?
Personally, most of us would rather have free speech than free
healthcare...
But thanks to bozos like yourself, we stand to end up with neither.
Stan de SD
2010-01-03 03:29:24 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Post by Spartakus
Mississippi has the highest levels of infant mortality, child obesity,
hypertension and teenage pregnancy in the U.S. More than 20% of its
people have no health insurance.  So where are Mississippi health
professionals turning to for a model of a low-cost rural health care
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/
article696284...
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Spartakus
Yes, the answer is Iran.  Since the 1979 revolution, health care
professionals have developed a rural health care system that have
produced stunning improvements, reducing child mortality rates by 69%
and maternal mortality from 300 per 100,000 births to 30.
Can the BEST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD learn something from the
citizens of a country whose government is preoccupied with Islamic
purity and thumbing its nose at the U.S.?  Will certain political types
let it?
Since you lefties think free health care is the most important and/or
desired commodity by most people, and you are always crowing about how
dictatorships like Iran and Cuba have great free health care, why don't
you just MOVE there yourselves?
Personally, most of us would rather have free speech than free
healthcare...
But thanks to bozos like yourself, we stand to end up with neither.
Are your comments based on any facts or logic, or the usual lefty
detachment from reality?
Spartakus
2010-01-02 20:23:25 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Post by Spartakus
Mississippi has the highest levels of infant mortality, child obesity,
hypertension and teenage pregnancy in the U.S. More than 20% of its
people have no health insurance.  So where are Mississippi health
professionals turning to for a model of a low-cost rural health care
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article696284...
Yes, the answer is Iran.  Since the 1979 revolution, health care
professionals have developed a rural health care system that have
produced stunning improvements, reducing child mortality rates by 69%
and maternal mortality from 300 per 100,000 births to 30.
Can the BEST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD learn something
from the citizens of a country whose government is preoccupied with Islamic
purity and thumbing its nose at the U.S.?  Will certain political
types let it?
Since you lefties think free health care is the most important and/or
desired commodity by most people, and you are always crowing about
how dictatorships like Iran and Cuba have great free health care, why
don't you just MOVE there yourselves?
Aw, Stan, are you finally ashamed of the American health care system?
Are your cheeks burning with embarrassment that the U.S. is 50th in
life expectancy? Are you abashed that Americans pay almost twice as
much for their health care, with poorer outcomes, than just about
every other developed country? If not, why not?

My post was not an endorsement of Iran's religious-dominated
politics. I just enjoy the irony here. Even though Iran is ruled by
nutjobs, its citizens are smart enough to create a health care system
that is effective and doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Whereas, *you*
prefer a system where you pay through the nose for the privilege of
being denied coverage. Who's smarter here? Mehdi the MD or Stan de
SD?
Post by Stan de SD
Personally, most of us would rather have free speech than free
healthcare...
Fallacy of false dilemma.
jls
2010-01-02 20:32:42 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Personally, most of us would rather have free speech than free
healthcare...
Fallacy of false dilemma.
Exactly, and why not have both healthcare AND free speech?
Stan de SD
2010-01-03 03:30:35 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Post by Spartakus
Mississippi has the highest levels of infant mortality, child obesity,
hypertension and teenage pregnancy in the U.S. More than 20% of its
people have no health insurance.  So where are Mississippi health
professionals turning to for a model of a low-cost rural health care
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article696284...
Yes, the answer is Iran.  Since the 1979 revolution, health care
professionals have developed a rural health care system that have
produced stunning improvements, reducing child mortality rates by 69%
and maternal mortality from 300 per 100,000 births to 30.
Can the BEST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD learn something
from the citizens of a country whose government is preoccupied with Islamic
purity and thumbing its nose at the U.S.?  Will certain political
types let it?
Since you lefties think free health care is the most important and/or
desired commodity by most people, and you are always crowing about
how dictatorships like Iran and Cuba have great free health care, why
don't you just MOVE there yourselves?
Aw, Stan, are you finally ashamed of the American health care system?
Are your cheeks burning with embarrassment that the U.S. is 50th in
life expectancy?  Are you abashed that Americans pay almost twice as
much for their health care, with poorer outcomes, than just about
every other developed country?  If not, why not?
My post was not an endorsement of Iran's religious-dominated
politics.  I just enjoy the irony here.  Even though Iran is ruled by
nutjobs, its citizens are smart enough to create a health care system
that is effective and doesn't cost an arm and a leg.  Whereas, *you*
prefer a system where you pay through the nose for the privilege of
being denied coverage.  Who's smarter here?  Mehdi the MD or Stan de
SD?
Post by Stan de SD
Personally, most of us would rather have free speech than free
healthcare...
Fallacy of false dilemma.
Yet all the lefties prop up examples of countries with no freedom or
individual rights as wonderful because they have free health care. Why
is that?
Spartakus
2010-01-03 04:44:23 UTC
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Post by Spartakus
Post by Stan de SD
Personally, most of us would rather have free speech than free
healthcare...
Fallacy of false dilemma.
Yet all the lefties prop up examples of countries with no freedom or
individual rights as wonderful because they have free health care. Why
is that?
Canada, France, Sweden and Japan have no freedoms or individual
rights???

You're a funny guy, Stan. I'm glad you're on Usenet.
Stan de SD
2010-01-03 05:08:25 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
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Post by Stan de SD
Personally, most of us would rather have free speech than free
healthcare...
Fallacy of false dilemma.
Yet all the lefties prop up examples of countries with no freedom or
individual rights as wonderful because they have free health care. Why
is that?
Canada, France, Sweden and Japan have no freedoms or individual
rights???
Your post referred to IRAN. Are you suffering AIDS-related dementia or
what, Sparky?
Paladin
2010-01-03 07:26:42 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Post by Spartakus
Post by Stan de SD
Personally, most of us would rather have free speech than free
healthcare...
Fallacy of false dilemma.
Yet all the lefties prop up examples of countries with no freedom or
individual rights as wonderful because they have free health care. Why
is that?
Canada, France, Sweden and Japan have no freedoms or individual
rights???
Your post referred to IRAN. Are you suffering AIDS-related dementia or
what, Sparky?
O ignorant one, allow me to explain the reference to
you. Iran was mentioned as an example of a dirt poor
nation (per capita) that still manages to provide
health care for all. Another example is poor little
Botswana.
5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09
2010-01-03 14:14:51 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
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Post by Stan de SD
Personally, most of us would rather have free speech than free
healthcare...
Fallacy of false dilemma.
Yet all the lefties prop up examples of countries with no freedom or
individual rights as wonderful because they have free health care.
Why is that?
Canada, France, Sweden and Japan have no freedoms or individual
rights???
Your post referred to IRAN. Are you suffering AIDS-related dementia or
what, Sparky?
O ignorant one, allow me to explain the reference to you. Iran was
mentioned as an example of a dirt poor nation (per capita) that still
manages to provide health care for all. Another example is poor little
Botswana.
Libertarians are trying to equate health care with freedom. The conceit
is that only tyrannies provide health care for all.

Actually, withholding health care is the far greater tyranny, but I never
met a libertarian who didn't love tyranny, just so long as it was
privatized tyranny.
Stan de SD
2010-01-03 22:48:58 UTC
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Post by Spartakus
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Spartakus
Post by Stan de SD
Personally, most of us would rather have free speech than free
healthcare...
Fallacy of false dilemma.
Yet all the lefties prop up examples of countries with no freedom or
individual rights as wonderful because they have free health care.
Why is that?
Canada, France, Sweden and Japan have no freedoms or individual
rights???
Your post referred to IRAN. Are you suffering AIDS-related dementia or
what, Sparky?
O ignorant one, allow me to explain the reference to you.  Iran was
mentioned as an example of a dirt poor nation (per capita) that still
manages to provide health care for all.  Another example is poor little
Botswana.
Libertarians are trying to equate health care with freedom.  The conceit
is that only tyrannies provide health care for all.
Actually, withholding health care is the far greater tyranny, but I never
met a libertarian who didn't love tyranny, just so long as it was
privatized tyranny.
The concept is that it's not the job of the government to provide you
with health care.
Ray Fischer
2010-01-04 00:11:32 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Personally, most of us would rather have free speech than free
healthcare...
Fallacy of false dilemma.
Yet all the lefties prop up examples of countries with no freedom or
individual rights as wonderful because they have free health care.
Why is that?
Canada, France, Sweden and Japan have no freedoms or individual
rights???
Your post referred to IRAN. Are you suffering AIDS-related dementia or
what, Sparky?
O ignorant one, allow me to explain the reference to you.  Iran was
mentioned as an example of a dirt poor nation (per capita) that still
manages to provide health care for all.  Another example is poor little
Botswana.
Libertarians are trying to equate health care with freedom.  The conceit
is that only tyrannies provide health care for all.
Actually, withholding health care is the far greater tyranny, but I never
met a libertarian who didn't love tyranny, just so long as it was
privatized tyranny.
The concept is that it's not the job of the government to provide you
with health care.
A concept which is self-serving and typical of greedy rightards who
would just as soon see people dead.

But the Constitution has that clause about "promote the general
welfare" and so that justifies health care. And the fact that you
rightards would rather pay twice as much just to spite others only
reveals the moral bankruptcy of your cult.
--
Ray Fischer
***@sonic.net
5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09
2010-01-04 00:38:03 UTC
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 14:48:58 -0800 (PST), Stan de SD
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Post by Spartakus
Post by Stan de SD
Personally, most of us would rather have free speech than free
healthcare...
Fallacy of false dilemma.
Yet all the lefties prop up examples of countries with no freedom or
individual rights as wonderful because they have free health care.
Why is that?
Canada, France, Sweden and Japan have no freedoms or individual
rights???
Your post referred to IRAN. Are you suffering AIDS-related dementia or
what, Sparky?
O ignorant one, allow me to explain the reference to you.  Iran was
mentioned as an example of a dirt poor nation (per capita) that still
manages to provide health care for all.  Another example is poor little
Botswana.
Libertarians are trying to equate health care with freedom.  The conceit
is that only tyrannies provide health care for all.
Actually, withholding health care is the far greater tyranny, but I never
met a libertarian who didn't love tyranny, just so long as it was
privatized tyranny.
The concept is that it's not the job of the government to provide you
with health care.
Yes, actually, it is.
Michael Ejercito
2010-01-06 15:27:56 UTC
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On Jan 3, 4:38 pm, "5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09"
Post by 5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 14:48:58 -0800 (PST), Stan de SD
Post by Stan de SD
O ignorant one, allow me to explain the reference to you.  Iran was
mentioned as an example of a dirt poor nation (per capita) that still
manages to provide health care for all.  Another example is poor little
Botswana.
Libertarians are trying to equate health care with freedom.  The conceit
is that only tyrannies provide health care for all.
Actually, withholding health care is the far greater tyranny, but I never
met a libertarian who didn't love tyranny, just so long as it was
privatized tyranny.
The concept is that it's not the job of the government to provide you
with health care.
Yes, actually, it is.
Where is it written in the United States Constitution?

Or ANY state constitution?


Michael
Spartakus
2010-01-03 16:43:49 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Personally, most of us would rather have free speech than free
healthcare...
Fallacy of false dilemma.
Yet all the lefties prop up examples of countries with no freedom or
individual rights as wonderful because they have free health care. Why
is that?
Canada, France, Sweden and Japan have no freedoms or individual
rights???
Your post referred to IRAN.
You mentioned *countries*. That's plural. Last time I checked, there
weren't multiple countries called "Iran".
Post by Stan de SD
Are you suffering AIDS-related dementia or
what, Sparky?
You're a funny guy, Stan, but fuck you all the same.
Quadibloc
2010-01-15 01:05:42 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Yet all the lefties prop up examples of countries with no freedom or
individual rights as wonderful because they have free health care. Why
is that?
Canada, France, Sweden and Japan have no freedoms or individual
rights???
You're a funny guy, Stan.  I'm glad you're on Usenet.
But with Canada, France, and Sweden to look at, why do the lefties
even mention Cuba or Iran when they should know they will just scare
people?

Anyways, Canada makes it hard for people to own guns.

John Savard
Spartakus
2010-01-15 05:09:17 UTC
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Post by Spartakus
Post by Stan de SD
Yet all the lefties prop up examples of countries with no freedom or
individual rights as wonderful because they have free health care. Why
is that?
Canada, France, Sweden and Japan have no freedoms or individual
rights???
You're a funny guy, Stan.  I'm glad you're on Usenet.
But with Canada, France, and Sweden to look at, why do the lefties
even mention Cuba or Iran when they should know they will just scare
people?
I guess the line between "WTF???" and
"Aaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeee!!!!!!! Teh Mooooslims!!!!!!!!" is hard to
define.
Post by Quadibloc
Anyways, Canada makes it hard for people to own guns.
Can't get that AK-47 you've been hankering for, huh?
Paladin
2010-01-03 07:24:24 UTC
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Mississippi has the highest levels of infant mortality, child obesity,
hypertension and teenage pregnancy in the U.S. More than 20% of its
people have no health insurance. So where are Mississippi health
professionals turning to for a model of a low-cost rural health care
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article696284...
Yes, the answer is Iran. Since the 1979 revolution, health care
professionals have developed a rural health care system that have
produced stunning improvements, reducing child mortality rates by 69%
and maternal mortality from 300 per 100,000 births to 30.
Can the BEST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD learn something
from the citizens of a country whose government is preoccupied with Islamic
purity and thumbing its nose at the U.S.? Will certain political
types let it?
Since you lefties think free health care is the most important and/or
desired commodity by most people, and you are always crowing about
how dictatorships like Iran and Cuba have great free health care, why
don't you just MOVE there yourselves?
Aw, Stan, are you finally ashamed of the American health care system?
Are your cheeks burning with embarrassment that the U.S. is 50th in
life expectancy? Are you abashed that Americans pay almost twice as
much for their health care, with poorer outcomes, than just about
every other developed country? If not, why not?
My post was not an endorsement of Iran's religious-dominated
politics. I just enjoy the irony here. Even though Iran is ruled by
nutjobs, its citizens are smart enough to create a health care system
that is effective and doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Whereas, *you*
prefer a system where you pay through the nose for the privilege of
being denied coverage. Who's smarter here? Mehdi the MD or Stan de
SD?
Post by Stan de SD
Personally, most of us would rather have free speech than free
healthcare...
Fallacy of false dilemma.
Yet all the lefties prop up examples of countries with no freedom or
individual rights as wonderful because they have free health care. Why
is that?
Let's see now....Finland, Sweden, France, Switzerland,
Germany, England, Canada--28 industrialized nations
have universal health care. Most of whom enjoy more
freedom than we do here.


Why doesn’t the United States have universal health
care as a right of citizenship? The United States is
the only industrialized nation that does not guarantee
access to health care as a right of citizenship. 28
industrialized nations have single payer universal
health care systems, while 1 (Germany) has a multipayer
universal health care system like President Clinton
proposed for the United States.

2. Myth One: The United States has the best health
care system in the world.

* Fact One: The United States ranks 23rd in
infant mortality, down from 12th in 1960 and 21st in 1990

* Fact Two: The United States ranks 20th in
life expectancy for women down from 1st in 1945 and
13th in 1960

* Fact Three: The United States ranks 21st in
life expectancy for men down from 1st in 1945 and 17th
in 1960.

* Fact Four: The United States ranks between
50th and 100th in immunizations depending on the
immunization. Overall US is 67th, right behind Botswana

* Fact Five: Outcome studies on a variety of
diseases, such as coronary artery disease, and renal
failure show the United States to rank below Canada and
a wide variety of industrialized nations.

* Conclusion: The United States ranks poorly
relative to other industrialized nations in health care
despite having the best trained health care providers
and the best medical infrastructure of any
industrialized nation.
Michael Ejercito
2010-01-06 15:25:34 UTC
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Mississippi has the highest levels of infant mortality, child obesity,
hypertension and teenage pregnancy in the U.S. More than 20% of its
people have no health insurance.  So where are Mississippi health
professionals turning to for a model of a low-cost rural health care
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article696284...
Yes, the answer is Iran.  Since the 1979 revolution, health care
professionals have developed a rural health care system that have
produced stunning improvements, reducing child mortality rates by 69%
and maternal mortality from 300 per 100,000 births to 30.
Can the BEST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD learn something from the
citizens of a country whose government is preoccupied with Islamic
purity and thumbing its nose at the U.S.?  Will certain political
types let it?
Hawaii used to have universal child health care- until it got too
expensive.

That should tell you something...


Michael
Paladin
2010-01-06 18:30:53 UTC
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Post by Spartakus
Mississippi has the highest levels of infant mortality, child obesity,
hypertension and teenage pregnancy in the U.S. More than 20% of its
people have no health insurance. So where are Mississippi health
professionals turning to for a model of a low-cost rural health care
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article696284...
Yes, the answer is Iran. Since the 1979 revolution, health care
professionals have developed a rural health care system that have
produced stunning improvements, reducing child mortality rates by 69%
and maternal mortality from 300 per 100,000 births to 30.
Can the BEST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD learn something from the
citizens of a country whose government is preoccupied with Islamic
purity and thumbing its nose at the U.S.? Will certain political
types let it?
Hawaii used to have universal child health care- until it got too
expensive.
That should tell you something...
Michael
Yes, it tells us that the Feds finally took over the
burden.
Michael Ejercito
2010-01-08 14:39:31 UTC
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Post by Paladin
Post by Spartakus
Mississippi has the highest levels of infant mortality, child obesity,
hypertension and teenage pregnancy in the U.S. More than 20% of its
people have no health insurance.  So where are Mississippi health
professionals turning to for a model of a low-cost rural health care
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article696284...
Yes, the answer is Iran.  Since the 1979 revolution, health care
professionals have developed a rural health care system that have
produced stunning improvements, reducing child mortality rates by 69%
and maternal mortality from 300 per 100,000 births to 30.
Can the BEST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD learn something from the
citizens of a country whose government is preoccupied with Islamic
purity and thumbing its nose at the U.S.?  Will certain political
types let it?
   Hawaii used to have universal child health care- until it got too
expensive.
   That should tell you something...
 Michael
Yes, it tells us that the Feds finally took over the
burden.
And the feds would do a better job than Hawaii?

Remember that Hawaii has greater per-capita wealth than the nation
as a whole.


Michael
Paladin
2010-01-09 09:33:21 UTC
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Mississippi has the highest levels of infant mortality, child obesity,
hypertension and teenage pregnancy in the U.S. More than 20% of its
people have no health insurance. So where are Mississippi health
professionals turning to for a model of a low-cost rural health care
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article696284...
Yes, the answer is Iran. Since the 1979 revolution, health care
professionals have developed a rural health care system that have
produced stunning improvements, reducing child mortality rates by 69%
and maternal mortality from 300 per 100,000 births to 30.
Can the BEST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD learn something from the
citizens of a country whose government is preoccupied with Islamic
purity and thumbing its nose at the U.S.? Will certain political
types let it?
Hawaii used to have universal child health care- until it got too
expensive.
That should tell you something...
Michael
Yes, it tells us that the Feds finally took over the
burden.
And the feds would do a better job than Hawaii?
Remember that Hawaii has greater per-capita wealth than the nation
as a whole.
Michael
I didn't say that, Michael. Hawaii and every other
state was a lot better off before Bush's tax cuts for
the wealthy forced states to pick up the burden for
many social services. This of course, forced them to
make painful cuts in many things. The number of
firefighters; the money available for health care and
education; the number of policemen protecting the
streets to name a few. The Republicans did a lot of
harm in 16 of the last 20 years.
Steve
2010-01-09 13:56:46 UTC
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On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:33:21 -0600, Paladin <"paladin
Post by Paladin
Post by Michael Ejercito
Post by Paladin
Post by Michael Ejercito
Post by Spartakus
Mississippi has the highest levels of infant mortality, child obesity,
hypertension and teenage pregnancy in the U.S. More than 20% of its
people have no health insurance. So where are Mississippi health
professionals turning to for a model of a low-cost rural health care
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article696284...
Yes, the answer is Iran. Since the 1979 revolution, health care
professionals have developed a rural health care system that have
produced stunning improvements, reducing child mortality rates by 69%
and maternal mortality from 300 per 100,000 births to 30.
Can the BEST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD learn something from the
citizens of a country whose government is preoccupied with Islamic
purity and thumbing its nose at the U.S.? Will certain political
types let it?
Hawaii used to have universal child health care- until it got too
expensive.
That should tell you something...
Michael
Yes, it tells us that the Feds finally took over the
burden.
And the feds would do a better job than Hawaii?
Remember that Hawaii has greater per-capita wealth than the nation
as a whole.
Michael
I didn't say that, Michael. Hawaii and every other
state was a lot better off before Bush's tax cuts for
the wealthy forced states to pick up the burden for
many social services. This of course, forced them to
make painful cuts in many things. The number of
firefighters; the money available for health care and
education; the number of policemen protecting the
streets to name a few. The Republicans did a lot of
harm in 16 of the last 20 years.
So says Milt Shook who pissed away his future recently by cashing in
his deferred retirement account...

"paladin is Milt Shook, of course... Shook's
ignorance stands out like a turd in a punchbowl.

BTW, Milt, how's that big important job at sequel services
working for you? Hahahahaha

http://sequelservices.net/
Paladin
2010-01-09 23:58:52 UTC
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Post by Steve
On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:33:21 -0600, Paladin <"paladin
Post by Paladin
Post by Michael Ejercito
Post by Paladin
Post by Michael Ejercito
Post by Spartakus
Mississippi has the highest levels of infant mortality, child obesity,
hypertension and teenage pregnancy in the U.S. More than 20% of its
people have no health insurance. So where are Mississippi health
professionals turning to for a model of a low-cost rural health care
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article696284...
Yes, the answer is Iran. Since the 1979 revolution, health care
professionals have developed a rural health care system that have
produced stunning improvements, reducing child mortality rates by 69%
and maternal mortality from 300 per 100,000 births to 30.
Can the BEST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD learn something from the
citizens of a country whose government is preoccupied with Islamic
purity and thumbing its nose at the U.S.? Will certain political
types let it?
Hawaii used to have universal child health care- until it got too
expensive.
That should tell you something...
Michael
Yes, it tells us that the Feds finally took over the
burden.
And the feds would do a better job than Hawaii?
Remember that Hawaii has greater per-capita wealth than the nation
as a whole.
Michael
I didn't say that, Michael. Hawaii and every other
state was a lot better off before Bush's tax cuts for
the wealthy forced states to pick up the burden for
many social services. This of course, forced them to
make painful cuts in many things. The number of
firefighters; the money available for health care and
education; the number of policemen protecting the
streets to name a few. The Republicans did a lot of
harm in 16 of the last 20 years.
So says Milt Shook who pissed away his future recently by cashing in
his deferred retirement account...
"paladin is Milt Shook, of course... Shook's
ignorance stands out like a turd in a punchbowl.
BTW, Milt, how's that big important job at sequel services
working for you? Hahahahaha
http://sequelservices.net/
Stevie, I'm going to ignore you till you have something
intelligent to say.
Steve
2010-01-10 12:53:53 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:58:52 -0600, Paladin <"paladin
Post by Paladin
Post by Steve
On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:33:21 -0600, Paladin <"paladin
Post by Paladin
Post by Michael Ejercito
Post by Paladin
Post by Michael Ejercito
Post by Spartakus
Mississippi has the highest levels of infant mortality, child obesity,
hypertension and teenage pregnancy in the U.S. More than 20% of its
people have no health insurance. So where are Mississippi health
professionals turning to for a model of a low-cost rural health care
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article696284...
Yes, the answer is Iran. Since the 1979 revolution, health care
professionals have developed a rural health care system that have
produced stunning improvements, reducing child mortality rates by 69%
and maternal mortality from 300 per 100,000 births to 30.
Can the BEST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD learn something from the
citizens of a country whose government is preoccupied with Islamic
purity and thumbing its nose at the U.S.? Will certain political
types let it?
Hawaii used to have universal child health care- until it got too
expensive.
That should tell you something...
Michael
Yes, it tells us that the Feds finally took over the
burden.
And the feds would do a better job than Hawaii?
Remember that Hawaii has greater per-capita wealth than the nation
as a whole.
Michael
I didn't say that, Michael. Hawaii and every other
state was a lot better off before Bush's tax cuts for
the wealthy forced states to pick up the burden for
many social services. This of course, forced them to
make painful cuts in many things. The number of
firefighters; the money available for health care and
education; the number of policemen protecting the
streets to name a few. The Republicans did a lot of
harm in 16 of the last 20 years.
So says Milt Shook who pissed away his future recently by cashing in
his deferred retirement account...
"paladin is Milt Shook, of course... Shook's
ignorance stands out like a turd in a punchbowl.
BTW, Milt, how's that big important job at sequel services
working for you? Hahahahaha
http://sequelservices.net/
Stevie, I'm going to ignore you till you have something
intelligent to say.
Run away, Milt.. that's what you always do... ...so aren't you
going to tell us more about your life in Bolovia wityh that rich
wife?? and shouldn't you elaborate on your experiences in Viet Nam?

Hell Shook, you haven't even explained why your resume doesn't include
your being a Congressional Page....

...and you never answered my question about whether you ever found out
about your boy's real father..
Michael Ejercito
2010-01-09 17:07:47 UTC
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Post by Paladin
   Hawaii used to have universal child health care- until it got too
expensive.
   That should tell you something...
 Michael
Yes, it tells us that the Feds finally took over the
burden.
   And the feds would do a better job than Hawaii?
   Remember that Hawaii has greater per-capita wealth than the nation
as a whole.
 Michael
I didn't say that, Michael.  Hawaii and every other
state was a lot better off before Bush's tax cuts for
the wealthy forced states to pick up the burden for
many social services.  This of course, forced them to
make painful cuts in many things.  The number of
firefighters; the money available for health care and
education; the number of policemen protecting the
streets to name a few.  The Republicans did a lot of
harm in 16 of the last 20 years.
Why SHOULDN'T states have the burden for social services?


Michael
Paladin
2010-01-10 00:42:16 UTC
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Post by Michael Ejercito
Post by Paladin
Post by Michael Ejercito
Post by Paladin
Post by Michael Ejercito
Hawaii used to have universal child health care- until it got too
expensive.
That should tell you something...
Michael
Yes, it tells us that the Feds finally took over the
burden.
And the feds would do a better job than Hawaii?
Remember that Hawaii has greater per-capita wealth than the nation
as a whole.
Michael
I didn't say that, Michael. Hawaii and every other
state was a lot better off before Bush's tax cuts for
the wealthy forced states to pick up the burden for
many social services. This of course, forced them to
make painful cuts in many things. The number of
firefighters; the money available for health care and
education; the number of policemen protecting the
streets to name a few. The Republicans did a lot of
harm in 16 of the last 20 years.
Why SHOULDN'T states have the burden for social services?
Michael
Well, for one thing, so many state and local
governments are corrupt, like those here in MS. The
state has casinos which they tax and control to ensure
big taxes and still the state's income tax is higher
than surrounding states. And other than that, some low
population states and low average income have a lower
tax base--but their people still have the needs for the
services larger, richer states easily provide. And
then there's the Federal tax cuts along with cuts in
government programs that benefited states.
Quadibloc
2010-01-15 01:03:33 UTC
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Post by Spartakus
Can the BEST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD learn something from the
citizens of a country whose government is preoccupied with Islamic
purity and thumbing its nose at the U.S.?  Will certain political
types let it?
Well, at least they didn't try studying the health care system of that
hotbed of radical socialism to the north... Canada.

Maybe they felt Iran would be more tolerant of slavery. Sa'udi Arabia
certainly was.

Still, if Mississippi is such an impoverished state that it has to
study the health care of a poor country like Iran, at least this might
make the Iranians feel needed, and make them less hostile to the
United States. But I have to admit that I find this news item bizarre.

John Savard
Spartakus
2010-01-15 05:05:40 UTC
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Post by Quadibloc
Post by Spartakus
Can the BEST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD learn something
from the citizens of a country whose government is preoccupied with Islamic
purity and thumbing its nose at the U.S.?  Will certain political
types let it?
Well, at least they didn't try studying the health care system of that
hotbed of radical socialism to the north... Canada.
Well, if you ever get tired of receiving medical treatment without
seeing a bill, you're more than welcome to emigrate here, John.
Post by Quadibloc
Maybe they felt Iran would be more tolerant of slavery. Sa'udi Arabia
certainly was.
Rather silly non sequitur there, but Iran's rural health care system
was put together by the citizens of Iran. Hardly a symptom of
slavery, theocracy notwithstanding.
Post by Quadibloc
Still, if Mississippi is such an impoverished state that it has to
study the health care of a poor country like Iran, at least this might
make the Iranians feel needed, and make them less hostile to the
United States. But I have to admit that I find this news item bizarre.
Actually, Iran is quite wealthy. Their only real liability is that
they are ruled by religious wackos.
Quadibloc
2010-01-19 13:38:42 UTC
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Post by Spartakus
Post by Quadibloc
Maybe they felt Iran would be more tolerant of slavery. Sa'udi Arabia
certainly was.
Rather silly non sequitur there, but Iran's rural health care system
was put together by the citizens of Iran.  Hardly a symptom of
slavery, theocracy notwithstanding.
Sa'udi Arabia abolished slavery - and their slaves were Africans - in
1970.

It is at least possible, therefore, that some politicians from
Mississippi, which is located south of something known as the Mason-
Dixon line, might have felt that they would have found more kindred
spirits in the Islamic world... than in Canada, where slavery was
abolished in 1839, and to which many slaves escaped with the aid of
the Underground Railway. They might see us as more Yankee than the
Yankees (as in Northerners in general, and New Englanders in
particular, as opposed to those who are simply Americans), and they
might be right in this connection.

There was even a time during which Jackie Robinson played baseball for
a team from Montreal, I remember reading somewhere.

I am not denying that this could have been a misconception on their
part, since Iran is a world away from Sa'udi Arabia, and I don't think
they did keep slaves there. After all, they used to be under the
enlightened rule of Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi.

John Savard
Spartakus
2010-01-19 16:12:39 UTC
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Post by Quadibloc
Post by Spartakus
Post by Quadibloc
Maybe they felt Iran would be more tolerant of slavery. Sa'udi Arabia
certainly was.
Rather silly non sequitur there, but Iran's rural health care system
was put together by the citizens of Iran. Hardly a symptom of
slavery, theocracy notwithstanding.
Sa'udi Arabia abolished slavery - and their slaves were Africans - in
1970.
It is at least possible, therefore, that some politicians from
Mississippi, which is located south of something known as the Mason-
Dixon line, might have felt that they would have found more kindred
spirits in the Islamic world... than in Canada, where slavery was
abolished in 1839, and to which many slaves escaped with the aid of
the Underground Railway. They might see us as more Yankee than the
Yankees (as in Northerners in general, and New Englanders in
particular, as opposed to those who are simply Americans), and they
might be right in this connection.
There was even a time during which Jackie Robinson played baseball for
a team from Montreal, I remember reading somewhere.
I am not denying that this could have been a misconception on their
part, since Iran is a world away from Sa'udi Arabia, and I don't think
they did keep slaves there. After all, they used to be under the
enlightened rule of Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi.
Are you OK, John? You're not making a lick of sense.

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