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The U.S. Is Drowning in Pretend Patriotism
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Lyle Andrew
2008-07-06 00:12:31 UTC
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The U.S. Is Drowning in Pretend Patriotism

This Fourth of July, let's remember that it's not our God-given
American right to reorder the world to our liking.

Yesterday was Independence Day and whether this meant barbecues and
fireworks for you or not, for many Iraq War veterans it was a moment
of sober reflection. "I had wanted to give the Iraqi people the same
freedoms that we here in America enjoy," recalls Staff Sergeant Ronn
Cantu, "...or freedoms I thought we enjoyed." Cantu is a member of
Iraq Veterans Against the War, one of several who took the time in the
days before the 4th of July to share their thoughts about the holiday.
"My Platoon Sergeant confided in me that the war in Iraq took
everything he thought he knew about America and crushed it," says
Cantu. "I responded by telling him that my feelings on the subject
were similar."
Army Sergeant Selena Coppa describes the 4th as an opportunity to
renew her belief in the need for resistance. "I don't wear red, white
and blue, and I don't wave paper flags. Sometimes I don't even have a
celebration. The Founding Fathers certainly had no celebration, tucked
away as they were, rebelling from a distance, the certain underdog
against England's might. No, how I choose to commemorate July Fourth
is by recommitting myself to living by the ideals which were blazed
that day." And IVAW Executive Director Kelly Dougherty renewed the
call for an end to the occupation. "Occupation and Independence cannot
co-exist ... It's time for us to leave Iraq, and to let Iraqis write
their own history."

Read more thoughts by IVAW members here. And visit AlterNet's War on
Iraq page for the latest coverage of the occupation.

Thanks for reading,

Liliana Segura

Editor, War on Iraq Special Coverage.
Craig R
2008-07-06 03:07:00 UTC
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Post by Lyle Andrew
The U.S. Is Drowning in Pretend Patriotism
Do you have to close your eyes?
sweetbum
2008-07-13 14:28:29 UTC
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PATRIOTISM is the next-to-last-refuge of a SCOUNDREL.
unknown
2008-07-13 15:16:30 UTC
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:28:29 -0700 (PDT), sweetbum
Post by sweetbum
PATRIOTISM is the next-to-last-refuge of a SCOUNDREL.
False patriotism surely is. And that's easy enough to simulate.

The sort of patriotism that is Real is a different sort of thing.

But either way, the patriotism is not within the song.
Stude A. Baker
2008-07-13 17:26:47 UTC
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Don Homuth wrote:about how he kills his pets execution style.
Sam Hill
2008-07-13 19:48:02 UTC
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Post by Stude A. Baker
Don Homuth wrote:about how he kills his pets execution style.
And you're a lying POS, Spammy. Don said no such thing, you did.
Studebaker this time heh? You shouldn't be allowed to drive a little
red wagon on the sidewalk.
Scratch
2008-07-13 20:00:14 UTC
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Post by Stude A. Baker
Don Homuth wrote:about how he kills his pets execution style.
And you're a lying POS, Spammy. Don said no such thing, you did.
Studebaker this time heh? You shouldn't be allowed to drive a little
red wagon on the sidewalk.
More control? Is that a Marxist point of view?
Stude A. Baker
2008-07-13 23:01:56 UTC
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Post by Stude A. Baker
Don Homuth wrote:about how he kills his pets execution style.
And you're a lying POS, Spammy. Don said no such thing, you did.
Wrong.

He's said it numerous times, try and follow the threads.

How is it you missed his recipe for frozen dead finch a la ziplock?
Gary J Carter
2008-07-14 02:13:26 UTC
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Don Homuth wrote:about how he kills his pets execution style.
And you're a lying POS, Spammy. Don said no such thing, you did.
Wrong.
He's said it numerous times, try and follow the threads.
How is it you missed his recipe for frozen dead finch a la ziplock?
You either wrote it yourself or edited his post.
Stude A. Baker
2008-07-14 04:15:13 UTC
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Don Homuth wrote:about how he kills his pets execution style.
And you're a lying POS, Spammy. Don said no such thing, you did.
Wrong.
He's said it numerous times, try and follow the threads.
How is it you missed his recipe for frozen dead finch a la ziplock?
You either wrote it yourself or edited his post.
Nope, and everyone in or.politics has read it.

He likes to use a .22 to the back of the head, he's posted it numerous
times.

Google it.
Gary J Carter
2008-07-14 16:38:17 UTC
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Don Homuth wrote:about how he kills his pets execution style.
And you're a lying POS, Spammy. Don said no such thing, you did.
Wrong.
He's said it numerous times, try and follow the threads.
How is it you missed his recipe for frozen dead finch a la ziplock?
You either wrote it yourself or edited his post.
Nope, and everyone in or.politics has read it.
He likes to use a .22 to the back of the head, he's posted it numerous
times.
Google it.
I'm satisfied that anything you quote is part of what he said. You
take a sentence and break it up to your convenience too many times for
anyone to believe a word you say. If Don said that, well you tend to
bring out the worst in many people with your bullshit.
Scratch
2008-07-14 17:33:24 UTC
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Post by Gary J Carter
If Don said that, well
It just shows the kind of character the man has.
Stude A. Baker
2008-07-14 17:41:04 UTC
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Post by Sam Hill
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Don Homuth wrote:about how he kills his pets execution style.
And you're a lying POS, Spammy. Don said no such thing, you did.
Wrong.
He's said it numerous times, try and follow the threads.
How is it you missed his recipe for frozen dead finch a la ziplock?
You either wrote it yourself or edited his post.
Nope, and everyone in or.politics has read it.
He likes to use a .22 to the back of the head, he's posted it numerous
times.
Google it.
I'm satisfied that anything you quote is part of what he said. You
take a sentence and break it up to your convenience too many times for
anyone to believe a word you say. If Don said that, well you tend to
bring out the worst in many people with your bullshit.
He's said it so many times and explained it ad nauseum, why not just
admit you're either lying or too stupid to have read the group archives:

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From: Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net>
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Subject: Re: We should listen to the commanders in Iraq
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 09:34:30 -0700
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Sir, I can't seem to bring myself to execute my pets with a .22!
Clearly the best thing to do is let your animals suffer, to endure
pain,
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confusion fear until they inevitably cramp up, suffocate or shit
themselves
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to death, 'cause apparently you're too much of an actual pussy to
put them
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down humanely when the time comes.
With a .22 to the head, execution style?
Fast, painless, instantaneous.
Works just fine.
Loud, crude, heartless.
They never hear a sound. I do, but then I'm used to the sound of guns.

But hardly crude. Fast -- every bit as fast as cervical separation,
for example.

Heartless -- no, never that. Euthenasia is a sad thing, regardless of
whether you do it on your own or find someone to hire to do your
killing for you.

I choose not to do that. You may choose to do that, and I have no
argument with Your choice. But it's Yours -- not mine.

An old veterinarian back in Nordakoda taught me how to do it properly,
fwiw. He always said that it was the fastest and most humane way to
handle it. But then, he wasn't a Pet Vet -- he was a large animal
vet.
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by Gary J Carter
Did you forget about sodium pentathol?
Not fast, not painless, not instantaneous.
Just convenient.
Very fast, seconds generally, a small prick, no trauma.
If it's Your choice, you are fully free to take it. My way doesn't
even take seconds, and the trauma is inconsequential. The squeamish
may not like to face what they're doing, and so have a need to pretend
that they're just Putting Them To Sleep.

I don't choose that, if it's my choice. I know full well that the
animal is being killed -- and can face that in the full knowledge that
it's their Life with me that's the key to all, not their death.
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by Gary J Carter
Yes, I have a fine veterinarian whom I trust and respect to hit the
vein
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by Gary J Carter
and stand by my side while we humanely carry out our duties.
If that's your personal choice, I have no argument with it. You hire
out your killing, and you clearly may do that.
I know where my skills lie and where they do not.
As I do with mine.
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
But you have no argument with a different take that makes any sense.
Your pets are your personal responsibility. Handle them as you will.
My pets are mine. Your approval was not sought and is not required.
You make Vincent Vega look tame.
Nah -- when it comes to my two dogs, I'm about as big a softie as
you'll ever find out there. I take Very good care of them, am willing
to spend thousands on their having the best sort of life they can,
train them properly so they will be happy being good pets and just
generally do everything that being a good pet owner requires.

Their life is in My hands.

As is the end of their life.

It's my responsibility, start to finish.
Lyle Andrew
2008-07-14 23:29:25 UTC
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Don Homuth wrote:about how he kills his pets execution style.
And you're a lying POS, Spammy. Don said no such thing, you did.
Wrong.
He's said it numerous times, try and follow the threads.
How is it you missed his recipe for frozen dead finch a la ziplock?
You either wrote it yourself or edited his post.
Nope, and everyone in or.politics has read it.
He likes to use a .22 to the back of the head, he's posted it numerous
times.
Google it.
I'm satisfied that anything you quote is part of what he said. You
take a sentence and break it up to your convenience too many times for
anyone to believe a word you say. If Don said that, well you tend to
bring out the worst in many people with your bullshit.
He's said it so many times and explained it ad nauseum, why not just
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From: Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net>
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Subject: Re: We should listen to the commanders in Iraq
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 09:34:30 -0700
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Sir, I can't seem to bring myself to execute my pets with a .22!
Clearly the best thing to do is let your animals suffer, to endure
pain,
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
confusion fear until they inevitably cramp up, suffocate or shit
themselves
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
to death, 'cause apparently you're too much of an actual pussy to
put them
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
down humanely when the time comes.
With a .22 to the head, execution style?
Fast, painless, instantaneous.
Works just fine.
Loud, crude, heartless.
They never hear a sound. I do, but then I'm used to the sound of guns.
But hardly crude. Fast -- every bit as fast as cervical separation,
for example.
Heartless -- no, never that. Euthenasia is a sad thing, regardless of
whether you do it on your own or find someone to hire to do your
killing for you.
I choose not to do that. You may choose to do that, and I have no
argument with Your choice. But it's Yours -- not mine.
An old veterinarian back in Nordakoda taught me how to do it properly,
fwiw. He always said that it was the fastest and most humane way to
handle it. But then, he wasn't a Pet Vet -- he was a large animal
vet.
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by Gary J Carter
Did you forget about sodium pentathol?
Not fast, not painless, not instantaneous.
Just convenient.
Very fast, seconds generally, a small prick, no trauma.
If it's Your choice, you are fully free to take it. My way doesn't
even take seconds, and the trauma is inconsequential. The squeamish
may not like to face what they're doing, and so have a need to pretend
that they're just Putting Them To Sleep.
I don't choose that, if it's my choice. I know full well that the
animal is being killed -- and can face that in the full knowledge that
it's their Life with me that's the key to all, not their death.
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by Gary J Carter
Yes, I have a fine veterinarian whom I trust and respect to hit the
vein
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by Gary J Carter
and stand by my side while we humanely carry out our duties.
If that's your personal choice, I have no argument with it. You hire
out your killing, and you clearly may do that.
I know where my skills lie and where they do not.
As I do with mine.
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
But you have no argument with a different take that makes any sense.
Your pets are your personal responsibility. Handle them as you will.
My pets are mine. Your approval was not sought and is not required.
You make Vincent Vega look tame.
Nah -- when it comes to my two dogs, I'm about as big a softie as
you'll ever find out there. I take Very good care of them, am willing
to spend thousands on their having the best sort of life they can,
train them properly so they will be happy being good pets and just
generally do everything that being a good pet owner requires.
Their life is in My hands.
As is the end of their life.
It's my responsibility, start to finish.
Maybe Carter just doesn't think your objections are worthy of a
comment. They aren't really. Nothing you say is worth answering
as we'll see with your reply to this one......

There's nothing ill about his post, Spammy. You took a piece of it
and made it look like it was some form of horrible thing to do which
it isn't. Ever put a pet down, Spammy? Do you have the guts? I
doubt it unless it was an Arab woman and her child and you were
sure she was unarmed, right, boy? You don't even need a gun,
you could insult her to death with your filthy mouth.
Stude A. Baker
2008-07-15 00:53:13 UTC
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Post by Sam Hill
Post by Stude A. Baker
Don Homuth wrote:about how he kills his pets execution style.
And you're a lying POS, Spammy. Don said no such thing, you did.
Wrong.
He's said it numerous times, try and follow the threads.
How is it you missed his recipe for frozen dead finch a la ziplock?
You either wrote it yourself or edited his post.
Nope, and everyone in or.politics has read it.
He likes to use a .22 to the back of the head, he's posted it numerous
times.
Google it.
I'm satisfied that anything you quote is part of what he said. You
take a sentence and break it up to your convenience too many times for
anyone to believe a word you say. If Don said that, well you tend to
bring out the worst in many people with your bullshit.
He's said it so many times and explained it ad nauseum, why not just
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From: Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net>
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Subject: Re: We should listen to the commanders in Iraq
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 09:34:30 -0700
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Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by Sam Hill
Post by Stude A. Baker
Sir, I can't seem to bring myself to execute my pets with a .22!
Clearly the best thing to do is let your animals suffer, to endure
pain,
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
confusion fear until they inevitably cramp up, suffocate or shit
themselves
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
to death, 'cause apparently you're too much of an actual pussy to
put them
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
down humanely when the time comes.
With a .22 to the head, execution style?
Fast, painless, instantaneous.
Works just fine.
Loud, crude, heartless.
They never hear a sound. I do, but then I'm used to the sound of guns.
But hardly crude. Fast -- every bit as fast as cervical separation,
for example.
Heartless -- no, never that. Euthenasia is a sad thing, regardless of
whether you do it on your own or find someone to hire to do your
killing for you.
I choose not to do that. You may choose to do that, and I have no
argument with Your choice. But it's Yours -- not mine.
An old veterinarian back in Nordakoda taught me how to do it properly,
fwiw. He always said that it was the fastest and most humane way to
handle it. But then, he wasn't a Pet Vet -- he was a large animal
vet.
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by Gary J Carter
Did you forget about sodium pentathol?
Not fast, not painless, not instantaneous.
Just convenient.
Very fast, seconds generally, a small prick, no trauma.
If it's Your choice, you are fully free to take it. My way doesn't
even take seconds, and the trauma is inconsequential. The squeamish
may not like to face what they're doing, and so have a need to pretend
that they're just Putting Them To Sleep.
I don't choose that, if it's my choice. I know full well that the
animal is being killed -- and can face that in the full knowledge that
it's their Life with me that's the key to all, not their death.
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by Gary J Carter
Yes, I have a fine veterinarian whom I trust and respect to hit the
vein
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by Gary J Carter
and stand by my side while we humanely carry out our duties.
If that's your personal choice, I have no argument with it. You hire
out your killing, and you clearly may do that.
I know where my skills lie and where they do not.
As I do with mine.
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
But you have no argument with a different take that makes any sense.
Your pets are your personal responsibility. Handle them as you will.
My pets are mine. Your approval was not sought and is not required.
You make Vincent Vega look tame.
Nah -- when it comes to my two dogs, I'm about as big a softie as
you'll ever find out there. I take Very good care of them, am willing
to spend thousands on their having the best sort of life they can,
train them properly so they will be happy being good pets and just
generally do everything that being a good pet owner requires.
Their life is in My hands.
As is the end of their life.
It's my responsibility, start to finish.
Maybe Carter just doesn't think your objections are worthy of a
comment. They aren't really. Nothing you say is worth answering
as we'll see with your reply to this one......
You are so slooooow on the uptake...
Post by Lyle Andrew
There's nothing ill about his post, Spammy. You took a piece of it
and made it look like it was some form of horrible thing to do which
it isn't.
Execution style, with a .22 to the head????
Post by Lyle Andrew
Ever put a pet down, Spammy?
See now this is where you show how stupid and senile you are.

Read the post, I specifically specify that I have and that I feel lethal
injection is the most humane method.
Post by Lyle Andrew
Do you have the guts?
Can you read for comprehension?
Post by Lyle Andrew
I doubt it unless it was an Arab woman and her child and you were
sure she was unarmed, right, boy?
Oh my, isn't it the Arabs who tend to rig their children with
explosives, Landru?
Post by Lyle Andrew
You don't even need a gun,
you could insult her to death with your filthy mouth.
Moderately funny line, I grade this post a D-....

Which eclipses your usual alternet-fax F grade.
Lyle Andrew
2008-07-16 01:02:36 UTC
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Don Homuth wrote:about how he kills his pets execution style.
And you're a lying POS, Spammy. Don said no such thing, you did.
Wrong.
He's said it numerous times, try and follow the threads.
How is it you missed his recipe for frozen dead finch a la ziplock?
You either wrote it yourself or edited his post.
Nope, and everyone in or.politics has read it.
He likes to use a .22 to the back of the head, he's posted it numerous
times.
Google it.
I'm satisfied that anything you quote is part of what he said. You
take a sentence and break it up to your convenience too many times for
anyone to believe a word you say. If Don said that, well you tend to
bring out the worst in many people with your bullshit.
He's said it so many times and explained it ad nauseum, why not just
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From: Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net>
Newsgroups: or.politics
Subject: Re: We should listen to the commanders in Iraq
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 09:34:30 -0700
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Post by Gary J Carter
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Sir, I can't seem to bring myself to execute my pets with a .22!
Clearly the best thing to do is let your animals suffer, to endure
pain,
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confusion fear until they inevitably cramp up, suffocate or shit
themselves
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to death, 'cause apparently you're too much of an actual pussy to
put them
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down humanely when the time comes.
With a .22 to the head, execution style?
Fast, painless, instantaneous.
Works just fine.
Loud, crude, heartless.
They never hear a sound. I do, but then I'm used to the sound of guns.
But hardly crude. Fast -- every bit as fast as cervical separation,
for example.
Heartless -- no, never that. Euthenasia is a sad thing, regardless of
whether you do it on your own or find someone to hire to do your
killing for you.
I choose not to do that. You may choose to do that, and I have no
argument with Your choice. But it's Yours -- not mine.
An old veterinarian back in Nordakoda taught me how to do it properly,
fwiw. He always said that it was the fastest and most humane way to
handle it. But then, he wasn't a Pet Vet -- he was a large animal
vet.
Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by Gary J Carter
Did you forget about sodium pentathol?
Not fast, not painless, not instantaneous.
Just convenient.
Very fast, seconds generally, a small prick, no trauma.
If it's Your choice, you are fully free to take it. My way doesn't
even take seconds, and the trauma is inconsequential. The squeamish
may not like to face what they're doing, and so have a need to pretend
that they're just Putting Them To Sleep.
I don't choose that, if it's my choice. I know full well that the
animal is being killed -- and can face that in the full knowledge that
it's their Life with me that's the key to all, not their death.
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Yes, I have a fine veterinarian whom I trust and respect to hit the
vein
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and stand by my side while we humanely carry out our duties.
If that's your personal choice, I have no argument with it. You hire
out your killing, and you clearly may do that.
I know where my skills lie and where they do not.
As I do with mine.
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Post by Stude A. Baker
But you have no argument with a different take that makes any sense.
Your pets are your personal responsibility. Handle them as you will.
My pets are mine. Your approval was not sought and is not required.
You make Vincent Vega look tame.
Nah -- when it comes to my two dogs, I'm about as big a softie as
you'll ever find out there. I take Very good care of them, am willing
to spend thousands on their having the best sort of life they can,
train them properly so they will be happy being good pets and just
generally do everything that being a good pet owner requires.
Their life is in My hands.
As is the end of their life.
It's my responsibility, start to finish.
Maybe Carter just doesn't think your objections are worthy of a
comment. They aren't really. Nothing you say is worth answering
as we'll see with your reply to this one......
You are so slooooow on the uptake...
Only as slow as I need to be. You don't get it at all.
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There's nothing ill about his post, Spammy. You took a piece of it
and made it look like it was some form of horrible thing to do which
it isn't.
Execution style, with a .22 to the head????
You're locked into that sentence like a deer in the headlights.
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Ever put a pet down, Spammy?
See now this is where you show how stupid and senile you are.
Shows your lack of civility. As usual, running your mouth.
Post by Stude A. Baker
Read the post, I specifically specify that I have and that I feel lethal
injection is the most humane method.
When an animal is hurt on the highway and the state patrol happens by,
are you delusional enough to believe they carry a lethal injection? A
bullet is the fastest and more humane way to put them down but you
know this. You are compulsed into arguments.
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Do you have the guts?
Can you read for comprehension?
The point is, can you? Your reading is selective, no doubt.
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I doubt it unless it was an Arab woman and her child and you were
sure she was unarmed, right, boy?
Oh my, isn't it the Arabs who tend to rig their children with
explosives, Landru?
Oh my, so one does it means they all do it? Good thinking, McGoo.
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You don't even need a gun,
you could insult her to death with your filthy mouth.
Moderately funny line, I grade this post a D-....
Which eclipses your usual alternet-fax F grade.
Wasnt' meant to be funny. That is you, we've all heard it right here.
lein
2008-07-13 21:46:45 UTC
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Post by unknown
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:28:29 -0700 (PDT), sweetbum
Post by sweetbum
PATRIOTISM is the next-to-last-refuge of a SCOUNDREL.
False patriotism surely is. And that's easy enough to simulate.
Like Obama's flip-flopping lapel pin.
Post by unknown
The sort of patriotism that is Real is a different sort of thing.
But either way, the patriotism is not within the song.
It can be expressed through song.
unknown
2008-07-13 22:21:48 UTC
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:46:45 -0700 (PDT), lein
Post by lein
Post by unknown
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:28:29 -0700 (PDT), sweetbum
Post by sweetbum
PATRIOTISM is the next-to-last-refuge of a SCOUNDREL.
False patriotism surely is. And that's easy enough to simulate.
Like Obama's flip-flopping lapel pin.
It's just a pin. It can't flip-flop. Even as an Issue, it's
meaningless.
Stude A. Baker
2008-07-13 23:02:02 UTC
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Don Homuth wrote:about how he kills his pets off, execution style.
Lyle Andrew
2008-07-14 02:11:38 UTC
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Post by Stude A. Baker
Don Homuth wrote:about how he kills his pets off, execution style.
Are you one of them?
Stude A. Baker
2008-07-14 04:14:08 UTC
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Post by Lyle Andrew
Are you one of them?
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Lyle Andrew (the latest al Qaeda in Iraq PR flak) wrote:


Most of the people you call "Terrorists" are those defending their
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Gary J Carter
2008-07-14 16:36:39 UTC
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Are you one of them?
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Most of the paragraph was not included.
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Lyle Andrew doesn't try to censor free speech like your commie ass
does, Spammy. He's more of an American you'll ever be.
Stude A. Baker
2008-07-14 17:20:45 UTC
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Gary J Carter is a raving faggot.
Gary J Carter
2008-07-14 02:14:04 UTC
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Post by Stude A. Baker
Don Homuth wrote:about how he kills his pets off, execution style.
And you just wrote it again, spammy.
Stude A. Baker
2008-07-14 04:15:25 UTC
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Post by Gary J Carter
Post by Stude A. Baker
Don Homuth wrote:about how he kills his pets off, execution style.
And you just wrote it again,
Ya, so?
Stude A. Baker
2008-07-13 17:26:49 UTC
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Post by sweetbum
PATRIOTISM is
Did you think you were being original or cool?

You moron.
Sam Hill
2008-07-13 19:49:51 UTC
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Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by sweetbum
PATRIOTISM is
Did you think you were being original or cool?
You moron.
Original? Don't get scared Spammy. He won't take that one away from you.
Cool? Well, you are a moron. Out of your own mouth comes Pablum.
Stude A. Baker
2008-07-13 23:01:57 UTC
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Post by Sam Hill
Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by sweetbum
PATRIOTISM is
Did you think you were being original or cool?
You moron.
Original? Don't get scared Spammy. He won't take that one away from you.
Cool? Well, you are a moron. Out of your own mouth comes Pablum.
Yaaaaaaaaawn...
Lyle Andrew
2008-07-14 02:10:09 UTC
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Post by Stude A. Baker
Post by Sam Hill
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PATRIOTISM is
Did you think you were being original or cool?
You moron.
Original? Don't get scared Spammy. He won't take that one away from you.
Cool? Well, you are a moron. Out of your own mouth comes Pablum.
Yaaaaaaaaawn...
Do you have a bottle to go with that? Seems like they all know you.
One post, you're made with whatever name you use.
Stude A. Baker
2008-07-14 04:13:47 UTC
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Post by Lyle Andrew
Do you have a bottle to go with that?
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Lyle Andrew (the latest al Qaeda in Iraq PR flak) wrote:


Most of the people you call "Terrorists" are those defending their
country from invaders

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Gary J Carter
2008-07-14 16:34:04 UTC
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Post by Stude A. Baker
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Do you have a bottle to go with that?
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Most of which was not posted by the Stupid Baker.
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No you're sucking on it.
Stude A. Baker
2008-07-14 17:20:31 UTC
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Gary J Carter eats shit.
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