California "squandered" while owners "pocketed"

[Oron Finci]

It's indicative of a political mindset in which wealth belongs to the state,
not to the individuals who earn it.

Mark Leno's bio is certainly closer to communism than democratism
http://democrats.assembly.ca.gov/members/a13/

[tony cooper]

Post by Oron Finci

It's indicative of a political mindset in which wealth belongs to the state,
not to the individuals who earn it.

Mark Leno's bio is certainly closer to communism than democratism
http://democrats.assembly.ca.gov/members/a13/

I'd never heard of Mark Leno before this thread. California
Assemblymen (called "Assemblymembers" on his page) are not generally
in the news in Florida.

I read his bio at http://democrats.assembly.ca.gov/members/a13/bio.htm
I fail to see anything, anything at all, that supports your
contention.

[Bill Z.]

Post by tony cooper

Post by Oron Finci

It's indicative of a political mindset in which wealth belongs to
the state, not to the individuals who earn it.

Mark Leno's bio is certainly closer to communism than democratism
http://democrats.assembly.ca.gov/members/a13/

I'd never heard of Mark Leno before this thread. California
Assemblymen (called "Assemblymembers" on his page) are not generally
in the news in Florida.
I read his bio at http://democrats.assembly.ca.gov/members/a13/bio.htm
I fail to see anything, anything at all, that supports your
contention.

There isn't anything in it to support his a contention. Leno's a
politician representing a quirky district full of very engaged
voters who make sure their representatives represent their views.
Someone who is as right-wing as Oron Finci seems to want would
not be able to get himself elected in Leno's district.

BTW, in the last presidential election, George Bush got less than
10,000 votes in San Francisco. It wouldn't surprise me if at least
half of his votes were due to distracted voters pushing the wrong
button.

[Bill Z.]

Post by Oron Finci
Mark Leno's bio is certainly closer to communism than democratism
http://democrats.assembly.ca.gov/members/a13/

Nonsense - he's actually doing a pretty good job of representing his
constituents, which is what a legislator is supposed to do in a
democracy. If you think he's "left wing", you should see the people
who voted for him. Bush got under 10,000 votes in San Francisco
in the last election, and a good fraction of those were probably
votes by senior citizens who had trouble reading the ballot because
of failing eyesight. :-)

[Peter Moylan]

Post by Oron Finci

It's indicative of a political mindset in which wealth belongs to
the state, not to the individuals who earn it.

Mark Leno's bio is certainly closer to communism than democratism
http://democrats.assembly.ca.gov/members/a13/

Bear in mind that you're cross-posting this to two English usage
newsgroups, and to an international audience. From the viewpoint of
English usage your statement makes no sense at all, because communism
refers to a way of managing an economy, while democratism refers to a
belief in a system that elects its leaders by popular vote. The two
concepts are orthogonal. You can have a democratic communist state, a
non-democratic non-communist state, and so on for the other two
possibilities.

As for the international aspect: from my (Australian) perspective that
web site shows him as a typical middle-of-the-road politician. He
presumably is in favour of democratism, because he gets his political
power from the people who voted for him, rather than being a dictator or
whatever else you want to contrast with democracy. I can't see a single
thing in his bio that has anything at all to do with communism.

What this says to me is that your posting belongs only on a newsgroup
where it's acceptable to post illogical crap. It's not particularly
welcome in a group where we think about the meanings of words.

[j***@yahoo.com]

Post by Peter Moylan

Post by Oron Finci

It's indicative of a political mindset in which wealth belongs to
the state, not to the individuals who earn it.

Mark Leno's bio is certainly closer to communism than democratism
http://democrats.assembly.ca.gov/members/a13/

Bear in mind that you're cross-posting this to two English usage
newsgroups, and to an international audience. From the viewpoint of
English usage your statement makes no sense at all, because communism
refers to a way of managing an economy, while democratism refers to a
belief in a system that elects its leaders by popular vote.

Not to mention that bios aren't close to beliefs.

Post by Peter Moylan
The two
concepts are orthogonal. You can have a democratic communist state, a
non-democratic non-communist state, and so on for the other two
possibilities.

...

Well, you can favor them. Is there any evidence that you can have a
democratic communist state in practice?

--
Jerry Friedman

[Ray O'Hara]

Post by Oron Finci

It's indicative of a political mindset in which wealth belongs to the state,
not to the individuals who earn it.

Mark Leno's bio is certainly closer to communism than democratism
http://democrats.assembly.ca.gov/members/a13/

communism is anm economic system,
democracy is a political system
the U.S.A. is a republic and not a democracy.



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