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Graball @ the JeWall: Saunders' Toughie Talk
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GRABALL @ THE JEWALL: Debra J. Saunders
TRIES TO TALK TOUGH

By Hal Womack 3-dan
http://www.myspace.com/halwomack

To get rid of an evil, one must first face it. Next comes calling it
by the right name. In the title of this article I have paraded two
neologisms in the lead. As previously explained, "Graball" comes from
"Gross Kabal". The second of my coinages should be as obvious to the
reader as a railroad spike in the middle of a maiden's forehead;
indeed it refers to a criminally atrocious construction which furrows
the brow of our human race. Yet even those whose land it is stealing,
whose life's blood stains the base thereof, still shyly refer to it by
euphemisms such as "the separation barrier".

To repeat what I wrote three days ago (Please see Note #1 below for
citation):

{Speaking of the murdered Rachel Corrie and the injured Tristan
Anderson, David Bromwich of Yale asks in the HUFFINGTON POST*,
"What drives these Americans to risk their lives against Israeli
soldiers on behalf of a subject people half the world away? The answer
is a passion for justice, and a commitment to civil rights."
* http://tinyurl.com/ctqkxj

Let us consider another sentence from Bromwich:

"Three days ago another American peace worker, Tristan Anderson, who
was protesting the new security fence in the West Bank town of Ni'lin,
was shot by another Israeli soldier."

Now here's a pic of what the Professor, following the Jews,
calls a "fence":

http://tinyurl.com/dxxl8w

So what kind of wall izzit? Give up?

As I wrote at least three years ago already:

{The challenge lies in the collective, long-time war guilt of the
whole
Washington Regime, whose capital is in Jerusalem, behind the Jewall.
Will we, the law-enforcing Six Billion of Earth, learn to apply the
acid of truth
and the agitation of the masses in order to dissolve the glue of fear
presently holding the likes of Feinstein, Boxer & Pelosi together with
B2 & Cheney? Disintegrate the Demublicans?

"Impeachment" = a mere American Constitutional nicety. OTOH hanging
Bush AFTOC [="After a Fair Trial, Of Course"] = the first demand both
of universal justice and of well-established positive law, both
international & U.S. domestic.}

I also asked long ago, "Who dares to say 'boo' to a Jew?" But Google
has deleted this post without a trace.

Time and patience are required to prevail against a global tyranny.
By stealing themselves bankrupt on Wall Street, murdering Palestinian
and Lebanese children and shooting reporters from California and the
UK, however, the joojingoes are definitely helping to speed along the
process of their own collapse, which may be seen even in this modest
thread.

I openly speak the truth and stand for justice under my own lawful
name. With $ trillions in swag still so far at his disposal, old King
Kissinger finds it impossible to oppose me with a spokesman who is
either competent or named. Such being the result of following the
cultish strategy of "Shoot, Loot & Lie" aka "Shul".

Now, can the Gentle Reader say, "Jewall" ?}

Many years have gone by since I, as an adopted San Franciscan, daily
read the CHRONICLE, before the Hearst Corporation's EXAMINER slithered
in to inhabit its corpse.
Even then it was a bag of slime and the greatest single disgrace to
the City. Now it's dying of its own putridity, which brings us to
Debra Saunders, 'Frisco's own cut-rate Ann Coulter.

There's still a lot of money to be made from murdering little girls
and, as long as the paychecks still clear the bank, _hasbara_
operatives will be found to cheer on the slaughter. The aforementioned
DJS & AC, Rush Limbaugh, Tom Friedman, Hannity etc. ad nauseam. I now
again name some of the little girls whom the Graball has slain
recently. The story of the Jews' shooting Samar Rabbo's two wee
sisters during the Gaza Massacre is told by their father to the team
from the National Lawyers Guild who interviewed him on the spot
shortly thereafter:

"We spoke to Khaled Abed Rabbo, who witnessed an Israeli soldier
execute his 2-year-old and 7-year-old daughters, and critically injure
a third daughter, Samar, 4-years old, on a sunny afternoon outside his
home. Two other Israeli soldiers were standing nearby eating chips and
chocolates at the time on January 7, 2009. Abed Rabbo recounts
standing in front of the Israeli soldiers with his mother, wife and
daughters for 5 – 7 minutes before one of the soldiers opened fire on
his family."

These are two of the 400 children whom the Jews murdered, over the New
Year's season along with a thousand of their parents --all of them
helpless prisoners in Earth's largest concentration camp. Earlier
victims include Akaber Zaid, Iman al-Hams, Abir Aramin and Rachel
Corrie.

Saunders writes today (Thursday 19 March):
"Back in the Bay Area, Anderson's fellow peace activists could have
used the awful occasion of Anderson's situation to contemplate how
wonderful it is to live in a safe country. Instead, Monday night, they
held their usual menacing and violence-tinged protest that closed down
a swath of Market Street and exposed Ess Eff once again as a
consequence-free environment."

The only way finally to shut up these jackals of joojournalism = first
arresting their bosses for war crimes and then dropping the net on the
hired mouthpieces. But there's a feedback loop in that one important
means of mobilizing our American masses to bust King Kissinger's Kabal
= rebutting and intellectually destroying their apologists such as
Debra Saunders.

DJS tries to convey the impression that the gravely wounded Tristan
Anderson was some kind of idiot pansy who went tripping through the
tulips to wave his hanky in Israel. She writes that he "found out in
the worst way that political protest outside the Bay Area isn't all
energy bars and catch-and-release." One can understand part of
Saunders' pique: Tristan Anderson was a competent, brave reporter
writing detailed descriptions of the desperate struggles of some of
the most cruelly oppressed people in our world. Only six days before
the Jews shot him in the head, Anderson posted the following article
to IndyMedia under the pen-name of "Eric Blair":

Four Demonstraters Shot and Wounded in Ni'ilin, Palestine Protest
by Eric Blair
Saturday Mar 7th, 2009 5:15 AM
(#3 for full text & link).

So Tristan Anderson showed himself to be a man from the Bay Area
worthy to stand comfortably in the same room with his immortal
predecessors such as Mark Twain, Jack London and Ambrose Bierce.
Whereas Debra Saunders will be remembered only in the same way that we
barely recall the tags of thugs like Reagan's tool in El Salvador,
Roberto "Blowtorch" D’Aubuisson.

Likewise I have already published my request to David Chiu,
President of the Board of Supervisors, that he ask Chief of Police
Heather Fong for any exculpatory video of the police attack against
the demonstrators on Monday. I am still waiting for his office to
return my telephone call or answer the email.

Debra Saunders = a small, mouthy part of the global conspiracy that
assassinated President John F. Kennedy and his brother Robert, that
murdered the 34 sailors on the USS LIBERTY, blew up the OKC Federal
kindergarten, smashed Princess Diana, rammed the Twin Towers and
murdered some 6-7 million people in Iraq and Afghanistan.

BTW I coined that "Graball" moniker before JAM or the "Jewish-American
eMpire" collapsed from the weight of its own rottenness. Then the $
multi-trillion looters alias "bailout" artists came along to validate
my description to the very Nth degree.

Another angle on the Jews' motive in shooting 38 year-old Tristan =
Gabrielle Silverman, his 21 year-old Jewish girlfriend, who turns out
to be a veteran of the notorious "Birthright Israel" program. A
noteworthy sign of progress, this.

I will reserve until later a dissection of Saunders' smarm WRT
"repercussions" and the SFPD. One's finger hovers over Lake Merced,
Oceanview Park, Bush St near Scott and Kearny @ Columbus --all
locations where in recent years unarmed victims have been shot to
death by Deputy Chief Kevin Cashman's colleagues.

Saturday thousands of people will turn out to strengthen the pulse for
the evolution of our race away from the murder, robbery and lies
represented by the likes of Debra Saunders and toward the ideals of
justice and harmony for which the best young Americans such as Rachel
Corrie and Tristan Anderson have sacrificed so much.

BTW the vernal equinox springs tomorrow, Friday 20 March @  11:44 hrz*
or 04:44 o'clock here in California (* = “Zulu” or UTC).

IMHO a)  The Coming World Religion will ceremoniously observe the
seasonal nodes, as well as the full moon & the daily passage of the
sun --as well as other occasions of a social nature. Has anyone
thought of a name therefor better than the "Humane Rite"? b) The
Huichol, centered around Tepic, Nayarit carry one of our Planet's most
interesting cultural genes for the development of HR. Thinking of them
some years ago and searching for the phrase "the stone that the
builder rejected" led me by accident to discover Madison Smartt Bell's
trilogy of novels on Toussaint Louverture's leadership of the Haitian
Revolution of 1800. I mourn the loss of the two murdered Rabbo sisters
and numerous other victims fallen this Winter by the hand of the
"Graball".

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#1.)
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From: Hal Womack 3-dan <***@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:22:17 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Mar 16 2009 6:22 pm
Subject: Re: Israelis Shoot NorCal Unionist In the Head

Internal quotation from:
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From: "Hal Womack 3-dan" <***@gmail.com>
Date: 25 Dec 2005 12:21:14 -0800
Subject: Re: 85% For Impeaching Bush: Current Net Poll
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#2.)
http://www.counterpunch.org/nlg02092009.html

February 9, 2009
A Report from Gaza
Strong Indications of Israeli War Crimes

By NATIONAL LAWYERS GUILD

Gaza City (signed by 7 attorneys)
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#3.)
{Ni'ilin, Palestine faces the loss of over half of its land to the
Apartheid Wall. This will further impoverish the villagers. It is part
of the Israeli plan to destroy Palestine by making life impossible for
the Palestinians.

Every Friday Ni'ilin villagers are joined by Israeli and international
activists to protest against the Wall's construction. Over one hundred
people gathered for an open air prayer in one of the village's olive
groves. After prayer the crowd marched to the area where the wall is
being built across their land. Villagers began breaking down the razor
wire barrier along the construction zone. Soldiers arrived in a jeep
and began firing tear gas into the crowd. The demonstrators were
forced to retreat. As they retreated, other soldiers positioned in the
olive groves attacked them with more tear gas. A international
activist (from Sweden) was hit in the stomach with an extended range
tear gas grenade. Youth threw stones with slings and villagers and
supporting activists tried all day to again walk towards the Wall.

In addition to tear gas, concussion grenades, and rubber coated steel
bullets; Israeli forces opened fire throughout the day with live
bullets. The Israeli Army uses a special low powered bullet, formerly
claimed to be non-lethal. The bullets, however, have killed several
Palestinians, and are commonly used by snipers at demonstrations in
Ni'ilin.

According to the Palestinian Red Crescent four young men were taken to
the hospital after being shot with live bullets.
The first was shot in the left thigh as the crowd ran from approaching
soldiers. The second was shot in the right calf and loaded into the
same ambulance as the first. The third was shot across the lower back
and had to be taken away in a private car. The fourth was shot just
above the right knee late in the day.

Additionally, a young boy was hit with an extended range tear gas
canister. The child was hit in the lower leg.

The last injury of the day was a Red Crescent Medic, also hit with a
tear gas canister. The medic was shot in the right buttock.

The protest continued until dusk, when the soldiers withdrew from the
area of the village. The were followed into the night by many
protesters. When the army was gone a family on that edge of the
village invited everyone over for tea. It had been an intense day for
all involved.}

http://tinyurl.com/dmxyx6


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#4.)

http://tinyurl.com/crxscb [632 words]

SFGate
"Tree sitter is not in Berkeley any more"

Thursday, March 19, 2009
Debra J. Saunders, columnist for the San Francisco Chronicle....

To comment, e-mail Debra J. Saunders at ***@sfchronicle.com.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/19/EDUU16HBT3.DTL

This article appeared on page A - 15 of the San Francisco Chronicle
© 2009 Hearst Communications Inc.

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"UN Security Council allowed Hussein essentially to chase weapons
inspectors out of Iraq in 1998. The United Nations oversaw the Oil for
Food program that allowed Hussein to siphon off funds meant to feed
his people. Despite more than 250 U.N. workers overseeing the program
at various times, Hussein still managed to funnel Food for Oil money
into his propaganda and palaces. In Israel, posters of suicide bombers
have popped up in U.N. Relief and Works Agency schools for Palestinian
refugees. " DJS in CHRON

http://www.aztlan.net/women_martyrs.htm

IMHO Hanadi Tayseer Jaradat who blew herself to glory on October 4,
2003
would make an excellent poster.
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Jewish World Review March 12, 2009 / 16 Adar 5769
DJS article.

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#5.)
http://www.counterpunch.org/oloughlin03112008.html

March 11, 2008
How Israeli Troops Invade Homes in Gaza, Brutalize, Smash and Steal

By ED O'LOUGHLIN

Gaza

SAFA ABU SEIF, 12, was fatally wounded as she stood in an upstairs
room of her home in the Gaza City district of Jabaliya 10 days ago.

She was one of 27 children identified by United Nations staff among
the 107 Palestinians who were killed in five days last week. Another
25 dead, including five women, were identified as unarmed non-
combatants. The status of 13 more dead victims could not be
determined. At least three of the children were reportedly shot in
their homes by Israeli small arms or sniper fire....

END OF NEW MATERIAL

================================

My Hot Lynx:

Leadbelly Picks Cotton (1945)
http://tinyurl.com/7cnuw8

1.) Flying TrapezeAerial Voltige


Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles living for the city

(so much for the numbers)

2.) Capoeira Samba


3.) Mahalia Jackson sings Gospel:
"Joshua Fit de Battle of Jericho"

"Go Tell It On the Mountain"


4.) Kali Dance


5.) Get Your Kix With Pele


6.) Old Folks' Music:

Live Berlin version =


7.) Five Minutes With Fernando Botero @ Abu Ghraib


8.) Tahitian Dance -- Corinne
http://tinyurl.com/7mmlg8

9.) Joe Biden, "I am a Zionist."


10.) Today In Palestine [click on last valid date in rightside
calendar panel]:
http://www.theheadlines.org/08/28-08-08.shtml

11.) Paul Robeson Sings "Old Man River"


12.) Martial Law USA?
9.5' video from Global Research
http://tinyurl.com/629yoh

13.) Danca Brasil Samba Show


14.) 4 IRANIAN NEWS SOURCES:
http://www.tehrantimes.com/
http://www2.irna.ir/en/
http://www.parstimes.com/media/iran/
http://www.presstv.ir/default.aspx

15.) Ladysmith Black Mambazo does "Homeless"
http://tinyurl.com/5oo359

16.) Street Drummer:

--or http://tinyurl.com/6zmp5r

17.) African Choral


18.) LONG KISS GOODNIGHT [movie 1996]
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116908/

19.) "Amazing Grace" sung in Cherokee on You Tube:
http://tinyurl.com/6r7snl OR


20.) _Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand
Years_ (1994) by Israel Shahak
http://tinyurl.com/8gaoac

21.) Six Brazilian Chorus Girls
http://tinyurl.com/8wyey8

22.) The late George Carlin sings Ron Paul:
http://tinyurl.com/2lzxdt

23.) The 9/11 Lie (video):
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/333.html

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html



24.) "Under the Boardwalk" (1964) by The Drifters.
http://tinyurl.com/6nby9x

25.) "Sittin' On the Dock of the Bay" by Otis Redding.
{"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by WMG" --
YouTube.}

26.) Kobe Bryant in action:


27.) Abir Aramin, age 9, murdered by the Jews*
on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, her picture:
http://tinyurl.com/2l6ogh
An Israeli mother, a Jewess, comments on the story:
http://tinyurl.com/3amvos

* Thus plain speech and accurate English, in the same sense that we
have long been wont truly to say that in the 1930's
the Japanese invaded China; on 22 June 1941, the Germans
invaded Russia (then styled the USSR) and in later decades the
Americans have attacked Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, the
Dominican Republic, Lebanon, Nicaragua, Grenada,
Panama, Serbia, Iraq and and Afghanistan (partial list), murdering
more than ten million people in the last twenty years alone.
Because of the long-noted peculiar nature of the distributed
nationality of world Jewry,
the ins & outs of this most grave accusation against them bear
extended discussion so that we, the normal alias "gentile" rainbow
righteous Seven Billion of Earth, may achieve a clear understanding of
the character of the doomed tyranny --sometimes called, among other
names,
"JAT" for Jewish-American T.-- which presently oppresses us. Despite
the opprobrium of the sister term "self-righteous",
'tis of the greatest importance IMHO for those who do stand for
justice to develop a sense of self-awareness and a firm grasp of the
vital distinction between ourselves vs. the imperial criminals,
addicted as they are to waging aggressive war.
Those last two fatal words mean mass murder, torture, industrial-
strength lies aka "mainstream news media" and
robbery on a planetary scale. Each of us should meditate regularly on
individual cases of our choice --for example,
those of the Rabbo girls in Gaza, of Iman al-Hams, of Akaber Zaid, of
Abir Aramin and of Rachel Corrie-- in order to prepare ourselves for
the intellectual exercise of multiplying by the necessary factor of
millions
the fate of any one given victim. Such preparation will provide us
with the motive for constructing the essential hierarchy
of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Earth.
Many inspiring examples in history remind us that
yagotta have somebody to beat anybody. We Americans (here to speak of
my own nation) have the duty and the opportunity to learn from the
successes of Presidents Hugo Chavez, Nelson Mandela, Mahmoud
Ahmadinejad, Evo Morales, Rafael Correa, Fernando Lugo and Hizbullah
Secretary-General
Hassan Nasrallah, among others.

Will we learn to save time by using positive grammar to the max? Thus
to transform a Jewish proverb, she who can endure the evil will live
to see glory. Let our watchwords be: Save life! Live and let live.
Friendly competition. Mercy* to all criminals, even the Bushes,
Clintons and Obama meaning, of course, that first we put them at our
mercy.
From dissent and protest to popular accord, from tail-chasing
"activism" to vast vision to sound strategy to bold action to
victory!
{Results 1 - 10 of about 398,000 for German invasion of Russia.}
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28.) http://www.rafahtoday.org/

29.) "What A Wonderful World!" -- Louis Armstrong
http://tinyurl.com/2f2ls7
................................................

30.) Here's the link to what I wrote on the eve of SonnaBush's
(fronting for Aerial Shaboom) invasion of Iraq:
http://tinyurl.com/2xcvdo

(The tag end of the piece was stuck on rather roughly by the HANDSTAND
editor & could profit from a bit of pruning.)

If any reader can find another article from that critical moment which
has better stood the test of time, will she please be so kind as to
tell me about it?
...........................................................................

31.) February 7, 2008
"It's the Real Thing:
Hugo Chávez's Coca"

By NIKOLAS KOZLOFF

http://tinyurl.com/ywjauf
..................................................................

32.) For Susan Abulhawa's new novel of Palestine, SCAR OF DAVID (2006)
http://tinyurl.com/2n77bo
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33.) http://www.americanfreepress.net/

FINAL JUDGMENT by Michael Collins Piper, first published in 1994 and
now in its 6th edition, lays out the Jewish background to the JFK hit
in >600 fascinating pages (which badly need editing, evenso --attn:
M&W).

(See the AFP site above also for the moving letter of 29 November 2006
from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad,
President of the Islamic Republic of Iran, directly addressed to
"Noble Americans" --maybe your local jewspaper forgot to pass it along
to you?)

On the AFP site linked above I just now (Tuesday 071211)
found the following Michael More out-take from Sicko about a certain
northern country:
http://tinyurl.com/23zgxu

34.) The leading U.S. academic expert on foreign policy = the author
James Petras, friend of Fidel Castro, of President
Hugo Chavez and of FARC.
http://petras.lahaine.org/
_Zionism, Militarism and the Decline of US Power_ (Paperback)
by James Petras
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35.)
Five Principal Joojingo or "JJ" resources:
1. http://www.aipac.org/
2. The Bronfmen @ http://www.acbp.net/
3. http://www.jinsa.org/
4. http://www.adl.org/
5. http://www.hasbara.co.il/

Four Righteous Jewish Antidotes:
1. http://www.ostrovskyfineart.com/index.htm
2. http://www.nkusa.org/index.cfm
3. http://www.israelshamir.net/
4. http://tinyurl.com/3c9jm8
........................................................

36.) US Alliance Afghan Genocide -
Six Million Excess Deaths?

By Dr Gideon Polya

08 November, 2007 Countercurrents.org

http://tinyurl.com/36ylq2
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37.) All rise,
This clip was the first time I ever saw Marvin Gaye perform. The word
in my mind = "composure".

http://www.counterpunch.org/dolby04032007.html

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38.) Kidz Today:
A) Iron Maiden The Trooper By Gauchos
http://tinyurl.com/8mj8nx
B) The Impeach Bush Club Parade
http://tinyurl.com/88lnb9
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39.) A valuable but erratic site:
http://www.counterpunch.org/

40.) Flag of USrael:
Loading Image...

41.) Jews murder 34 US sailors in 1967 in order
to show Pentagon brass who's running the show
after the ride through Dealey Plaza fours years before:
http://www.ussliberty.org/

42.) World Heroines of the Third Millennium AD:
http://www.aztlan.net/women_martyrs.htm

43.) http://www.jewwatch.com/

44.) http://www.zundelsite.org/

45.) http://margaritaville.com/
[cartoon panel]
http://tinyurl.com/2kyyc9
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46.) "Culture of Life News":
http://elainemeinelsupkis.typepad.com/
47.) Loading Image...
48.) Hero of the Twentieth Century:
http://tinyurl.com/3dlhhb

49.) http://www.currentissues.tv/

50.) Excellent 1997 documentary showing Billary burning
down American rainbow Protestants in their own Texas home: http://www.waco93.com/

51.) ("Nadine Eats Pizza in Ramallah")
http://www.israelshamir.net/Contributors/Contributor47.htm

52.) The picture of Akaber Zaid
http://tinyurl.com/yqd75d
and the story from the then leading writer HA'ARETZ of her murder by
the Jews:
http://www.counterpunch.org/levy03272006.html

53.) Alan Pogue's Texas Center for Documentary Photography
http://www.documentaryphotographs.com/
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http://vcnv.org/
http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=1
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=491
Nadine Fernández dances:
A) Tribal Fusion

B) Samba-Oriental with Drum Solo

Bharatanatyam Bharatnatyam Indian dance
http://tinyurl.com/5cl88n
Paris Hilton answers McCain:
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/64ad536a6d
http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html
Loading Image...
http://www.nelsonmandela.org/
Loading Image...
http://www.sf911truth.org/
http://www.documentaryphotographs.com/
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
http://www.aztlan.net/
http://www.valleyofthewolvesiraq.com/high/main.html
http://electronicintifada.net/new.shtml
http://dahrjamailiraq.com/index.php
http://antiwar.com/
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/index.htm
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/
http://www.infowars.com/
http://www.al-awda.org/
http://www.imemc.org/
http://www.vcnv.org/
http://www.ziopedia.org/content/view/3301/58/
http://www.cnionline.org/
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=
http://www.honestmediatoday.com/index.htm
http://prorev.com/indexa.htm
http://www.thankyoult.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
http://www.deiryassin.org/index1.html
http://www.marwenmedia.com/index.html
http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
http://www.vho.org/ = Germar Rudolph
http://www.malaysiasun.com/
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Kathak in Varanasi

(Wednesday '090311 -- I just found this latest addition
to my Lynx above. Since the list is getting rather long, I will
particularly appreciate any sincere suggestions from friendly readers
on which items to toss.)
http://tinyurl.com/yt4tym ("Let It Be!")
Feline Fine (MHL):
http://tinyurl.com/8xmwlt

http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,150 for "free your mind, the rest will
follow".
............................................................................................
All sincere comments on this list are welcome; some links will blink
out, necessitating updating, so will you please email me when you find
one such? Last list (partial) review = Sunday 090104.

Protocol: Top posting in follow-ups 'cause that way makes most sense
to me
and placing the reply at the bottom of the thread as it appears on my
Google newsreader. BTW does some friendly expert want to recommend a
better newsreader aka Usenet access tool,
especially for posting, then I'm all ear.
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D21IL
Mark Elder
2009-03-19 13:34:57 UTC
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Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
TRIES TO TALK TOUGH
By Hal Womack 3-dan
This is how far I get with these posts. Click.
C***@aol.com
2009-03-19 14:11:24 UTC
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Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
TRIES TO TALK TOUGH
By Hal Womack 3-dan
This is how far I get with these posts.  Click.
try reading HAARETZ...the great Israeli newspaper today..for testiony
of IDF soldiers and what they were ordered to do in GAZA....
SMS
2009-03-20 15:29:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by C***@aol.com
try reading HAARETZ...the great Israeli newspaper today..for testiony
of IDF soldiers and what they were ordered to do in GAZA....
LOL, that's like getting your news in the U.S. from Fox and the Wall
Street Journal.
SMS
2009-03-31 21:53:41 UTC
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Post by Mark Elder
This is how far I get with these posts. Click.
You don't have to even get that far if you set up your filters properly!

It's really sad to see what happened to Anderson, but Debra Saunders
might want to dig a bit deeper before assigning blame so quickly.

Anderson was just a naive pawn of the organizations like the
"International Solidarity Movement" and "Anarchists Against the Wall."
These groups recruit often-well-meaning, but naive individuals to
protest for causes of which they have virtually no understanding.
Anderson is not the only person that they were able to recruit.
Stan de SD
2009-03-31 23:02:06 UTC
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Post by SMS
This is how far I get with these posts.  Click.
You don't have to even get that far if you set up your filters properly!
It's really sad to see what happened to Anderson, but Debra Saunders
might want to dig a bit deeper before assigning blame so quickly.
Anderson was just a naive pawn of the organizations like the
"International Solidarity Movement" and "Anarchists Against the Wall."
These groups recruit often-well-meaning, but naive individuals to
protest for causes of which they have virtually no understanding.
Anderson is not the only person that they were able to recruit.
I don't doubt that the International Stupidity Movement is populated
with more than its share of brain-dead gullible goo-goos, but I'm not
sure how much of a naive pawn Tristan "Berkeley Tree Shitter" Anderson
really was. He seems to have a history of being an agitator and all
around a-hole. Unfortunately, it seems his parents were the ones that
needed to be popped in the head with something to get their attention
before they unleashed their little Darwin Award contender to the
world. Sounds like a pair of overindulgent parents brought up a
spoiled child who never grew up. The lesson to be learned here is that
not everyone kowtows to little thugs just because they call themselves
"activists..." :O|
Stan de SD
2009-03-19 17:09:34 UTC
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Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
TRIES TO TALK TOUGH
By Hal Womack 3-danhttp://www.myspace.com/halwomack
        To get rid of an evil, one must first face it.
If I had to face you for more than 30 seconds while your spouted your
pro-Nazi, anti-Semitic bile, I would probably punch your lights our.
Be happy that I have decided that I would just avoid you instead
should I ever encounter you in public.
Hal Womack 3-dan
2009-03-19 18:27:00 UTC
Permalink
Hey, at least Simple Saunders is using her own name.

What gripes Fake Stan's guts & those of his mistress Damned Feinstein,
too, be this: They love to murder little girls, several of whom I have
often named. Besides that, they demand that you give 'em your money to
pay for their crimes. Unless you do, and with a smile, too, then they
will call you all sorts of names and howl lies, curses and threats at
you and at your family.

Should you doubt what I'm saying here, please, just read the cowardly
nameless Jew itself:

============================
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
TRIES TO TALK TOUGH
By Hal Womack 3-danhttp://www.myspace.com/halwomack
        To get rid of an evil, one must first face it.
If I had to face you for more than 30 seconds while your spouted your
pro-Nazi, anti-Semitic bile, I would probably punch your lights our.
Be happy that I have decided that I would just avoid you instead
should I ever encounter you in public.
===============================

BTW & as often noted before, most of the girls whom Boxer, DF, Phil
Bronstein & FS murder are Semites, in which category Arabs outnumber
Jews by more than 10 to 1.

The stupid, guilty, homicidal frenzy displayed by Sallai Meridor, the
Israeli Ambassador to the US, by ~94% of the Israeli Jews, by King
Kissinger's Kabal and by their tools abroad --this deranged mindset
injures all of humanity and bodes worst of all for the nasty nation
which has generated it.

I appeal to Fake Stan to pull its puss-filled head out of its inflamed
rectum.
Stan de SD
2009-03-19 23:21:38 UTC
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Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Hey, at least Simple Saunders is using her own name.
What gripes Fake Stan's guts & those of his mistress Damned Feinstein,
too, be this: They love to murder little girls,
Care to make any other accusations you can't back up, you lying
cowardly litte cocksucker?

Hal, why don't you tell us about the time you shot that passenger in
the back when you were a MUNI driver?
C***@aol.com
2009-03-20 01:42:12 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Hey, at least Simple Saunders is using her own name.
What gripes Fake Stan's guts & those of his mistress Damned Feinstein,
too, be this: They love to murder little girls,
Care to make any other accusations you can't back up, you lying
cowardly litte cocksucker?
Hal, why don't you tell us about the time you shot that passenger in
the back when you were a MUNI driver?
BUT STAN...have you read HAARETZ??
Stan de SD
2009-03-20 02:00:17 UTC
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Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Hey, at least Simple Saunders is using her own name.
What gripes Fake Stan's guts & those of his mistress Damned Feinstein,
too, be this: They love to murder little girls,
Care to make any other accusations you can't back up, you lying
cowardly litte cocksucker?
Hal, why don't you tell us about the time you shot that passenger in
the back when you were a MUNI driver?
BUT STAN...have you read HAARETZ??
Yes, I have read Ha'aretz as well as the Jerusalem Post, given that I
actually worked in Israel at one time in my life. Do you have a point
to make?
Hal Womack 3-dan
2009-03-20 02:25:02 UTC
Permalink
“The tactics of the Israel Lobby plumb the depths of dishonor and
indecency and include character assassination, selective misquotation,
the willful distortion of the record, the fabrication of falsehoods,
and an utter disregard for the truth. The aim of this Lobby is control
of the policy process through the exercise of a veto over the
appointment of people who dispute the wisdom of its views, the
substitution of political correctness for analysis, and the exclusion
of any and all options for decision by Americans and our government
other than those that it favors."

Ambassador Charles Freeman on declining his appointment as Chairman of
the National Intelligence Council, Wall Street Journal, March 10,
2009. Cited by Paul Craig Roberts in his
COUNTERPUNCH article of March 18, 2009
"The Charles Freeman Ordeal and the Decline of American Power
Israel's American Chattel ".
http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts03182009.html

TBC

===================================
Post by Stan de SD
Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Hey, at least Simple Saunders is using her own name.
What gripes Fake Stan's guts & those of his mistress Damned Feinstein,
too, be this: They love to murder little girls,
Care to make any other accusations you can't back up, you lying
cowardly litte cocksucker?
Hal, why don't you tell us about the time you shot that passenger in
the back when you were a MUNI driver?
BUT STAN...have you read HAARETZ??
Yes, I have read Ha'aretz as well as the Jerusalem Post, given that I
actually worked in Israel at one time in my life. Do you have a point
to make?
Stan de SD
2009-03-20 05:15:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
“The tactics of the Israel Lobby plumb the depths of dishonor and
indecency and include character assassination, selective misquotation,
the willful distortion of the record, the fabrication of falsehoods,
and an utter disregard for the truth. The aim of this Lobby is control
of the policy process through the exercise of a veto over the
appointment of people who dispute the wisdom of its views, the
substitution of political correctness for analysis, and the exclusion
of any and all options for decision by Americans and our government
other than those that it favors."
Nice little rant, Hal Wack-nut. Too bad you still can't refute
anything I sad.
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Post by Stan de SD
Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Hey, at least Simple Saunders is using her own name.
What gripes Fake Stan's guts & those of his mistress Damned Feinstein,
too, be this: They love to murder little girls,
Care to make any other accusations you can't back up, you lying
cowardly litte cocksucker?
Hal, why don't you tell us about the time you shot that passenger in
the back when you were a MUNI driver?
BUT STAN...have you read HAARETZ??
Yes, I have read Ha'aretz as well as the Jerusalem Post, given that I
actually worked in Israel at one time in my life. Do you have a point
to make?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
C***@aol.com
2009-03-20 14:09:07 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
“The tactics of the Israel Lobby plumb the depths of dishonor and
indecency and include character assassination, selective misquotation,
the willful distortion of the record, the fabrication of falsehoods,
and an utter disregard for the truth. The aim of this Lobby is control
of the policy process through the exercise of a veto over the
appointment of people who dispute the wisdom of its views, the
substitution of political correctness for analysis, and the exclusion
of any and all options for decision by Americans and our government
other than those that it favors."
Nice little rant, Hal Wack-nut. Too bad you still can't refute
anything I sad.
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Post by Stan de SD
Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Hey, at least Simple Saunders is using her own name.
What gripes Fake Stan's guts & those of his mistress Damned Feinstein,
too, be this: They love to murder little girls,
Care to make any other accusations you can't back up, you lying
cowardly litte cocksucker?
Hal, why don't you tell us about the time you shot that passenger in
the back when you were a MUNI driver?
BUT STAN...have you read HAARETZ??
Yes, I have read Ha'aretz as well as the Jerusalem Post, given that I
actually worked in Israel at one time in my life. Do you have a point
to make?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
did you work at the Jerusalem Post when Wolf Blitzer was there?
Stan de SD
2009-03-20 17:06:28 UTC
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Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
“The tactics of the Israel Lobby plumb the depths of dishonor and
indecency and include character assassination, selective misquotation,
the willful distortion of the record, the fabrication of falsehoods,
and an utter disregard for the truth. The aim of this Lobby is control
of the policy process through the exercise of a veto over the
appointment of people who dispute the wisdom of its views, the
substitution of political correctness for analysis, and the exclusion
of any and all options for decision by Americans and our government
other than those that it favors."
Nice little rant, Hal Wack-nut. Too bad you still can't refute
anything I sad.
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Post by Stan de SD
Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Hey, at least Simple Saunders is using her own name.
What gripes Fake Stan's guts & those of his mistress Damned Feinstein,
too, be this: They love to murder little girls,
Care to make any other accusations you can't back up, you lying
cowardly litte cocksucker?
Hal, why don't you tell us about the time you shot that passenger in
the back when you were a MUNI driver?
BUT STAN...have you read HAARETZ??
Yes, I have read Ha'aretz as well as the Jerusalem Post, given that I
actually worked in Israel at one time in my life. Do you have a point
to make?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
did you work at the Jerusalem Post when Wolf Blitzer was there?
Are your reading comprehension skills as bad as your reasoning skills?
I didn't work as a journalist when I was in Israel, and my only
professional journalism experience was as a freelance photographer,
not as a reporter type.)
C***@aol.com
2009-03-21 18:17:01 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
“The tactics of the Israel Lobby plumb the depths of dishonor and
indecency and include character assassination, selective misquotation,
the willful distortion of the record, the fabrication of falsehoods,
and an utter disregard for the truth. The aim of this Lobby is control
of the policy process through the exercise of a veto over the
appointment of people who dispute the wisdom of its views, the
substitution of political correctness for analysis, and the exclusion
of any and all options for decision by Americans and our government
other than those that it favors."
Nice little rant, Hal Wack-nut. Too bad you still can't refute
anything I sad.
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Post by Stan de SD
Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Hey, at least Simple Saunders is using her own name.
What gripes Fake Stan's guts & those of his mistress Damned Feinstein,
too, be this: They love to murder little girls,
Care to make any other accusations you can't back up, you lying
cowardly litte cocksucker?
Hal, why don't you tell us about the time you shot that passenger in
the back when you were a MUNI driver?
BUT STAN...have you read HAARETZ??
Yes, I have read Ha'aretz as well as the Jerusalem Post, given that I
actually worked in Israel at one time in my life. Do you have a point
to make?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
did you work at the Jerusalem Post when Wolf Blitzer was there?
Are your reading comprehension skills as bad as your reasoning skills?
I didn't work as a journalist when I was in Israel, and my only
professional journalism experience was as a freelance photographer,
not as a reporter type.)
I didn't say you had...I asked if you had..difference..take note.
C***@aol.com
2009-03-20 14:08:13 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Hey, at least Simple Saunders is using her own name.
What gripes Fake Stan's guts & those of his mistress Damned Feinstein,
too, be this: They love to murder little girls,
Care to make any other accusations you can't back up, you lying
cowardly litte cocksucker?
Hal, why don't you tell us about the time you shot that passenger in
the back when you were a MUNI driver?
BUT STAN...have you read HAARETZ??
Yes, I have read Ha'aretz as well as the Jerusalem Post, given that I
actually worked in Israel at one time in my life. Do you have a point
to make?
what's your response to the HAARETZ story about IDF soldiers attesting
to the deliberate slaughter of Palestinian women and children?
American soldiers do the same crap..some of them..but this seems to
have been actually ordered by commanding officers...all while telling
the world how careful they were being to protect the
innocent....thoughts?
Hal Womack 3-dan
2009-03-20 14:39:40 UTC
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ISRAELI SOLDIERS DESCRIBE MURDERS OF WOMEN & CHILDREN

* World news
* Gaza

Israeli troops describe shooting Gaza civilians

• Accounts contradict army version of fighting
• Military chiefs promise inquiry into disclosures

* Rory McCarthy in Jerusalem
* The Guardian, Friday 20 March 2009

Striking testimony has emerged from Israeli soldiers involved in the
recent Gaza war, in which they describe shooting unarmed civilians,
sometimes under orders from their officers.

One soldier described how an Israeli sniper shot dead a Palestinian
mother and her children, adding that troops believed Palestinian lives
were "very, very, less important than the lives of our soldiers".

The accounts, published in two Israeli newspapers yesterday, gives
rare insight into how the soldiers acted. It reinforces Palestinian
accounts of disproportionate Israeli force and contradicts the Israeli
military's official version of events.

The accounts come from unnamed soldiers who were graduates of a pre-
military course at Oranim Academic college, in Tivon, near Haifa.
Their testimony was given in mid-February, and the transcript of the
session was published this week.

Ha'aretz newspaper printed one infantry squad leader's description of
the shooting of unarmed civilians: "There was a house with a family
inside ... We put them in a room ... a few days after there was an
order to release [them]. There was a sniper position on the roof. The
platoon commander let the family go and told them to go to the right.
One mother and her two children didn't understand and went to the
left, but they forgot to tell the sharpshooter on the roof they had
let them go and it was OK, and he should hold his fire and he ... he
did what he was supposed to, like he was following his orders.

"The sharpshooter saw a woman and children approaching him, closer
than the lines he was told no one should pass. He shot them ... In any
case, what happened is that in the end he killed them."

He believed the sniper did not feel regret. "I don't think he felt too
bad about it, because, after all, as far as he was concerned, he did
his job according to the orders given. And the atmosphere in general,
from what I understood from most of my men who I talked to ... I don't
know how to describe it ... the lives of Palestinians, let's say, is
something very, very, less important than the lives of our soldiers.
So as far as they are concerned they can justify it that way."

According to a Palestinian human rights group, more than 1,400
Palestinians were killed in the three-week war, which began in late
December. Thirteen Israelis were killed in the conflict.

A second squad leader, from the same brigade, related how a commander
told troops to shoot a Palestinian woman walking near a house the
soldiers had taken over. He added that "to write 'death to the Arabs'
on the walls, to take family pictures and spit on them" happened "just
because you can". The Israel Defence Forces had "fallen in the realm
of ethics", he said. Another soldier, recalling ransacking Palestinian
homes, said: "The entire contents of the house flew out the windows:
refrigerator, plates, furniture."

The head of the Oranim course reported his concerns about the
soldiers' observations to the army chief, Major General Gabi
Ashkenazi. Yesterday the Israeli military first denied "any previous
knowledge or information" but later said the chief of staff had
received a letter from the course head. The military said an
investigation would be held into the accounts.

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Fake Stan = a completely discredited mercenary Jewish Usenet pest. If
it has an argument of particular interest, let it so state.

==================================
Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Hey, at least Simple Saunders is using her own name.
What gripes Fake Stan's guts & those of his mistress Damned Feinstein,
too, be this: They love to murder little girls,
Care to make any other accusations you can't back up, you lying
cowardly litte cocksucker?
Hal, why don't you tell us about the time you shot that passenger in
the back when you were a MUNI driver?
BUT STAN...have you read HAARETZ??
Yes, I have read Ha'aretz as well as the Jerusalem Post, given that I
actually worked in Israel at one time in my life. Do you have a point
to make?
what's your response to the HAARETZ story about IDF soldiers attesting
to the deliberate slaughter of Palestinian women and children?
American soldiers do the same crap..some of them..but this seems to
have been actually ordered by commanding officers...all while telling
the world how careful they were being to protect the
innocent....thoughts?
Stan de SD
2009-03-20 17:10:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Ha'aretz newspaper printed one infantry squad leader's description of
the shooting of unarmed civilians: "There was a house with a family
inside ... We put them in a room ... a few days after there was an
order to release [them]. There was a sniper position on the roof. The
platoon commander let the family go and told them to go to the right.
One mother and her two children didn't understand and went to the
left, but they forgot to tell the sharpshooter on the roof they had
let them go and it was OK, and he should hold his fire and he ... he
did what he was supposed to, like he was following his orders.
So it was a mistake in communications, not a deliberate attempt to
kill non-combatants. Of course, not getting your facts straight never
stopped you from a good anti-Jew rant, did it?
Stan de SD
2009-03-20 17:08:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Hey, at least Simple Saunders is using her own name.
What gripes Fake Stan's guts & those of his mistress Damned Feinstein,
too, be this: They love to murder little girls,
Care to make any other accusations you can't back up, you lying
cowardly litte cocksucker?
Hal, why don't you tell us about the time you shot that passenger in
the back when you were a MUNI driver?
BUT STAN...have you read HAARETZ??
Yes, I have read Ha'aretz as well as the Jerusalem Post, given that I
actually worked in Israel at one time in my life. Do you have a point
to make?
what's your response to the HAARETZ story about IDF soldiers attesting
to the deliberate slaughter of Palestinian women and children?
Post the link for me. I normally don't go out of the way to read
Ha'aretz because it's rather left-of-center and not always the most
objective...
Post by C***@aol.com
American soldiers do the same crap..some of them..
You know that for a fact, Chrissy. Tell us about your military
experience where you saw this firsthand...
Stratum
2009-03-20 19:43:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Hey, at least Simple Saunders is using her own name.
What gripes Fake Stan's guts & those of his mistress Damned Feinstein,
too, be this: They love to murder little girls,
Care to make any other accusations you can't back up, you lying
cowardly litte cocksucker?
Hal, why don't you tell us about the time you shot that passenger in
the back when you were a MUNI driver?
BUT STAN...have you read HAARETZ??
Yes, I have read Ha'aretz as well as the Jerusalem Post, given that I
actually worked in Israel at one time in my life. Do you have a point
to make?
what's your response to the HAARETZ story about IDF soldiers attesting
to the deliberate slaughter of Palestinian women and children?
American soldiers do the same crap..some of them..but this seems to
have been actually ordered by commanding officers...all while telling
the world how careful they were being to protect the
innocent....thoughts?
My thoughts are:

(a) There are over 5 million Jewish opinions in Israel, and
not a few in California.

(b) You are making common cause with an outright
Nazi with a history of criminal violence.

When Hal Womack comes to disagree with you as he inevitably
will, he will call for your literal hanging "after a fair trial, of
course."
That's the sort of psychopath he is. He might also harrass
you by writing to people with the intent of causing you
harm.

Like most psychopaths, if you hit him back, he'll wail
to the heavens. To turn an old antisemitic slogan
on its ear, "Scatch a Nazi and get a hemophiliac."
Scratch a Nazi really hard, and you get the
"Horst Wessel Song" which in very bad
times was usually sung with a second or
third pint of watery beer by know-nothings
who did not yet appreciate how well off
they were.
Hal Womack 3-dan
2009-03-20 21:52:08 UTC
Permalink
The KKK or King Kissinger's Kabal has $ trillions of loot wherewith to
hire nameless Jewish screechers here on the Usenet, like the fakes
Stan & Stratum in this thread, for example. All it takes to make
these joojackals howl = for any honest person to defend the lives of
little girls. Now 'tis perfectly obvious that when we see some group
that makes a practice of killing children, we should utterly destroy
the perpetrators. Otherwise we are encouraging the continuation of the
most wicked slaughter. The KKK -- let us think here of Feinstein,
Boxer, Pelosi & Obama -- insist on taking American tax money away from
Social Security and Medicare to give it to the Israelis for their pet
projects like the Gaza Massacre and to the Pentagon for Jew-instigated
genocide such as the US invasions of Iraq and of Afghanistan, both
sold by ridiculous lies.

Those who wish to murder more children in Palestine, Lebanon, Iran and
other countries flock to the KKK and hiss in unison with Fakes Stratum
& Stan. Mainly they are Jews like Tom Friedman, Phil Bronstein and Abe
Foxman, followed by their bought tools like the Bushez, Clintonz and
Obama.

Those OTOH who support the impartial enforcement of that law which is
based on justice only will profit from studying the examples of Jimmy
Carter, Professors Mearsheimer & Walt, James Petras, Michael Collins
Piper, Alison Weir, Cynthia McKinney, Hugo Chavez, Hassan Nasrallah
and numerous other leaders of our rainbow race who are trying to
defeat JAT, as I have tagged the Jewish-American Tyranny.

Four year-old Samar Rabbo has survived the cold-blooded point-blank
murders of her two small sisters. When Fake Stratum
comes at her with a gun, whose side will you be on? Please remember
that unless you both turn over your money for its cause and kiss its
ass, Dianne Feinstein will abuse her Usenet clone to call you a
"Nazi", too. Such be the meaning of these exchanges here in this
decisive venue in the struggle for the support of world public
opinion.

"The lobby has never had much trouble keeping the New York Times and
the Washington Post in line, but it has few ways to silence critics on
the internet."

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v31/n06/mear01_.html

London Review of Books, 26 March 2009
"The Lobby Falters"
John Mearsheimer

Here's how I opened this thread:

{There's still a lot of money to be made from murdering little girls
and, as long as the paychecks still clear the bank, _hasbara_
operatives will be found to cheer on the slaughter. The aforementioned
DJS & AC, Rush Limbaugh, Tom Friedman, Hannity etc. ad nauseam. I now
again name some of the little girls whom the Graball has slain
recently. The story of the Jews' shooting Samar Rabbo's two wee
sisters during the Gaza Massacre is told by their father to the team
from the National Lawyers Guild who interviewed him on the spot
shortly thereafter:

"We spoke to Khaled Abed Rabbo, who witnessed an Israeli soldier
execute his 2-year-old and 7-year-old daughters, and critically injure
a third daughter, Samar, 4-years old, on a sunny afternoon outside his
home. Two other Israeli soldiers were standing nearby eating chips and
chocolates at the time on January 7, 2009. Abed Rabbo recounts
standing in front of the Israeli soldiers with his mother, wife and
daughters for 5 – 7 minutes before one of the soldiers opened fire on
his family."

These are two of the 400 children whom the Jews murdered, over the New
Year's season along with a thousand of their parents --all of them
helpless prisoners in Earth's largest concentration camp. Earlier
victims include Akaber Zaid, Iman al-Hams, Abir Aramin and Rachel
Corrie.}

========================
Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Hey, at least Simple Saunders is using her own name.
What gripes Fake Stan's guts & those of his mistress Damned Feinstein,
too, be this: They love to murder little girls,
Care to make any other accusations you can't back up, you lying
cowardly litte cocksucker?
Hal, why don't you tell us about the time you shot that passenger in
the back when you were a MUNI driver?
BUT STAN...have you read HAARETZ??
Yes, I have read Ha'aretz as well as the Jerusalem Post, given that I
actually worked in Israel at one time in my life. Do you have a point
to make?
what's your response to the HAARETZ story about IDF soldiers attesting
to the deliberate slaughter of Palestinian women and children?
American soldiers do the same crap..some of them..but this seems to
have been actually ordered by commanding officers...all while telling
the world how careful they were being to protect the
innocent....thoughts?
  (a) There are over 5 million Jewish opinions in Israel*, and
       not a few in California.
  (b) You are making common cause with an outright
       Nazi with a history of criminal violence.
When Hal Womack comes to disagree with you as he inevitably
will, he will call for your literal hanging "after a fair trial, of
course."
That's the sort of psychopath he is.  He might also harrass
you by writing to people with the intent of causing you
harm.
Like most psychopaths, if you hit him back, he'll wail
to the heavens.  To turn an old antisemitic slogan
on its ear, "Scatch a Nazi and get a hemophiliac."
Scratch a Nazi really hard, and you get the
"Horst Wessel Song" which in very bad
times was usually sung with a second or
third pint of watery beer by know-nothings
who did not yet appreciate how well off
they were.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"In the weeks that have just passed we had been witness to an Israeli
genocidal campaign against the Palestinian civilian population in
Gaza. We had been witnessing one of the strongest armies in the world
squashing women, elderly people and children. We saw blizzards of
unconventional weapons bursting over schools, hospitals and refugee
camps. We had seen and heard about war crimes committed before, but
this time, the Israeli transgression was categorically different. It
was supported by the total absolute majority of the Israeli Jewish
population. The IDF military campaign in Gaza enjoyed the support of
94% of the Israeli population. 94% of the Israelis apparently approved
of the air raids against civilians. The Israeli people saw the carnage
on their TV screens, they heard the voices, they saw hospitals and
refugee camps in flames and yet, they weren’t really moved by it all.
They didn’t do much to stop their “democratically elected” ruthless
leaders. Instead, some of them grabbed a seat and settled on the hills
overlooking the Gaza Strip to watch their army turning Gaza into
modern Hebraic coliseum of blood."

* http://tinyurl.com/d8yrgp

Gilad Atzmon – War On Terror Within: The End of Jewish History

Mr.Atzmon is an Israeli combat veteran and famous saxophone player now
living in London.
Stan de SD
2009-03-20 22:53:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
The KKK or King Kissinger's Kabal has $ trillions of loot wherewith to
hire nameless Jewish screechers here on the Usenet, like the fakes
Stan & Stratum in this thread, for example.  
If that's true, where's my check? :Oo
SMS
2009-03-20 23:09:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
The KKK or King Kissinger's Kabal has $ trillions of loot wherewith to
hire nameless Jewish screechers here on the Usenet, like the fakes
Stan & Stratum in this thread, for example.
If that's true, where's my check? :Oo
You didn't get yours?!
Stan de SD
2009-03-21 03:05:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by SMS
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
The KKK or King Kissinger's Kabal has $ trillions of loot wherewith to
hire nameless Jewish screechers here on the Usenet, like the fakes
Stan & Stratum in this thread, for example.  
If that's true, where's my check? :Oo
You didn't get yours?!
Nah, but they sent me a neat painting of Theodore Herzl with big eyes
on black velvet. :Oo
Stan de SD
2009-03-20 22:52:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Hey, at least Simple Saunders is using her own name.
What gripes Fake Stan's guts & those of his mistress Damned Feinstein,
too, be this: They love to murder little girls,
Care to make any other accusations you can't back up, you lying
cowardly litte cocksucker?
Hal, why don't you tell us about the time you shot that passenger in
the back when you were a MUNI driver?
BUT STAN...have you read HAARETZ??
Yes, I have read Ha'aretz as well as the Jerusalem Post, given that I
actually worked in Israel at one time in my life. Do you have a point
to make?
what's your response to the HAARETZ story about IDF soldiers attesting
to the deliberate slaughter of Palestinian women and children?
American soldiers do the same crap..some of them..but this seems to
have been actually ordered by commanding officers...all while telling
the world how careful they were being to protect the
innocent....thoughts?
  (a) There are over 5 million Jewish opinions in Israel, and
       not a few in California.
No shit. The first time I asked for directions in Tel Aviv, one person
was helping me out, then a second one came along with a different
idea, then the two got into an argument. There's a saying: "Get 2
jewish people in an argument, and you will wind up with 3 different
opinions"...
  (b) You are making common cause with an outright
       Nazi with a history of criminal violence.
When Hal Womack comes to disagree with you as he inevitably
will, he will call for your literal hanging "after a fair trial, of
course."
That's the sort of psychopath he is.  He might also harrass
you by writing to people with the intent of causing you
harm.
Like most psychopaths, if you hit him back, he'll wail
to the heavens.
Which is why some psychologists view sociopaths (the PC term nowadays,
IIRC) as people with extreme cases of Narcissistic Personality
Disorder... :O|
Hal Womack 3-dan
2009-03-28 17:26:20 UTC
Permalink
Alexander Cockburn (pronounced "coburn"), the 67 year-old veteran
columnist for the WALL STREET JOURNAL, L.A. TIMES and the NATION
magazine runs what despite its grave deficiencies still manages to
qualify, as far as I can make out, as the most valuable political
Website in English, namely his COUNTERPUNCH (link given below).

As one can tell from the credits, Cockurn's quite in thrall to what
used to be called "the Establishment", now better known as JAT for the
"Jewish-American Tyranny" or the Graball. For example,
AC devoutly peddles the Official Line that Lee Harvey Oswald with his
Magic Bullet shot down the World Trade Center, whereas OBL choked Jack
to death, something like that, you know. Everything else, according to
AC = a 'Nutso Conspiracy Theory', which is to say, tells the truth
about the fucking Jews who did the deeds, except, of course, for the
large portion of manufactured chaff which really are NCT's.

Whereas I strongly replied to the Jewess Debra Saunders on the same
day of her CHRONICLE screed mocking the maimed & near death California
hero Tristan Anderson, Alex took 10 days longer to find a watered-down
complaint by a namless Frisco lawyer on the same topic, which is
copied below for the record. Lacking the courage to "say boo to a
Jew", although he thinks about it, AC is often reduced to publishing
clearly inferior stuff, as in the present case.

OTOH his site does feature Paul Craig Roberts and also often crisp
reports from Palestine, so themz redeeming features.

The 4 JJ's or joojingoes* on this thread lie lower than gum on the
sidewalk. They flatter me with their mindless resentment against the
telling of home truths.

* Elder, SMS, Stan & Stratum.

When Hal Womack comes to disagree with you as he inevitably
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Stratum
will, he will call for your literal hanging "after a fair trial, of
course."
The "hang" verb = poetic license for the songs & slogans of the
movement for global justice. As often explained before, in order to
fulfill the biblical prophecy, I do propose to hang by their feet for
a brief ceremony a handful of the appropriate war criminals such as
SonnaBush, Billy Jeff & Ornold. Then we'll dungeonizem.
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Stratum
That's the sort of psychopath he is. He might also harrass
you by writing to people with the intent of causing you
harm.
Fake Stratum refers here to the sequence just under a year ago in
which he publicly threatened to murder me and I reported* his crime to
the SFPD and D.A. Kamala Harris, as also previously published. These
little joosh sewer shriekers simply love to bash their headkins
against the bottom side of manhole covers.

* Case # 080.402.573 on Thursday '080417

Wailing @ de JeWall....

=================================

Weekend Edition
March 27-29, 2009

Shame on Debra Saunders
Smearing Tristan Anderson

By JAMI TARN

In a hate-filled column in the San Francisco Chronicle (“Tree sitter
is not in Berkeley any more” - March 18, 2009), Debra J. Saunders
insinuated that Tristan Anderson, still lingering in a coma in Tel
Aviv after taking an Israeli tear gas canister to the face, costing
him part of his frontal lobe and possibly his right eye, deserves this
comeuppance for daring to join Palestinians in protest against
Israel’s illegal Apartheid wall, which divides farmers from their
olive groves in the West Bank town of Ni’ilin. (He was taking pictures
far from the wall, well after the protest had subsided.) Let Saunders
look at bloody video of my friend Tristan, a former Berkeley Oak Grove
tree-sitter, and say to his parents or his girlfriend that he “found
out in the worst way that political protest outside the Bay Area isn’t
all energy bars and catch-and-release.”....

http://www.counterpunch.org/tam03272009.html

=================================
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Stratum
Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by C***@aol.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Hey, at least Simple Saunders is using her own name.
What gripes Fake Stan's guts & those of his mistress Damned Feinstein,
too, be this: They love to murder little girls,
Care to make any other accusations you can't back up, you lying
cowardly litte cocksucker?
Hal, why don't you tell us about the time you shot that passenger in
the back when you were a MUNI driver?
BUT STAN...have you read HAARETZ??
Yes, I have read Ha'aretz as well as the Jerusalem Post, given that I
actually worked in Israel at one time in my life. Do you have a point
to make?
what's your response to the HAARETZ story about IDF soldiers attesting
to the deliberate slaughter of Palestinian women and children?
American soldiers do the same crap..some of them..but this seems to
have been actually ordered by commanding officers...all while telling
the world how careful they were being to protect the
innocent....thoughts?
  (a) There are over 5 million Jewish opinions in Israel, and
       not a few in California.
No shit. The first time I asked for directions in Tel Aviv, one person
was helping me out, then a second one came along with a different
idea, then the two got into an argument. There's a saying: "Get 2
jewish people in an argument, and you will wind up with 3 different
opinions"...
Post by Stratum
  (b) You are making common cause with an outright
       Nazi with a history of criminal violence.
When Hal Womack comes to disagree with you as he inevitably
will, he will call for your literal hanging "after a fair trial, of
course."
That's the sort of psychopath he is.  He might also harrass
you by writing to people with the intent of causing you
harm.
Like most psychopaths, if you hit him back, he'll wail
to the heavens.
Which is why some psychologists view sociopaths (the PC term nowadays,
IIRC) as people with extreme cases of Narcissistic Personality
Disorder... :O|
Stratum
2009-03-28 18:28:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Fake Stratum refers here to the sequence just under a year ago in
which he publicly threatened to murder me and I reported* his crime to
the SFPD and D.A. Kamala Harris, as also previously published. These
little joosh sewer shriekers simply love to bash their headkins
against the bottom side of manhole covers.
* Case # 080.402.573 on Thursday '080417
No, actually Harry, that's not the case at all. You
were dismissed by the DA's office after some
consideration of bringing further criminal charges
against you, a convicted criminal with a history
of gun violence, for filing false charges. Are you
not aware that you may yet be charged?

In fact, your position with San Francisco
City & County is a little like that of
Emperor Norton. You are to be
treated with the same dignity due any
raving street person as long as you
aren't a threat to anyone else. God
knows you aren't the only unfortunate
walking San Francisco streets.

I thought you knew all this.
Hal Womack 3-dan
2009-03-28 19:44:04 UTC
Permalink
The notoriously discredited Fake Stratum or "FS" begins with a false
denial, then continues with mere assertion re dismissal of complaint.
Does it care to give us a reference to an actual named source in the
office of Ms. Harris? The D.A. herself, perhaps? Some years have
passed since I last spoke with her.

All honest people ipso facto threaten all liars with exposure and just
as the law-abiding & -enforcing threaten all murderers with
prosecution. The issue hangs in the balance between humanity, Tristan
Anderson & friends on one side vs. King Kissinger's Kabal, including
the vaporous FS, on the other.

==============
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Fake Stratum refers here to the sequence just under a year ago in
which he publicly threatened to murder me and I reported* his crime to
the SFPD and D.A. Kamala Harris, as also previously published. These
little joosh sewer shriekers simply love to bash their headkins
against the bottom side of manhole covers.
* Case # 080.402.573 on Thursday '080417
No, actually Harry, that's not the case at all.  You
were dismissed by the DA's office after some
consideration of bringing further criminal charges
against you, a convicted criminal with a history
of gun violence, for filing false charges.  Are you
not aware that you may yet be charged?
In fact, your position with San Francisco
City & County is a little like that of
Emperor Norton.  You are to be
treated with the same dignity due any
raving street person as long as you
aren't a threat to anyone else.  God
knows you aren't the only unfortunate
walking San Francisco streets.
I thought you knew all this.
Stratum
2009-03-28 20:11:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
The notoriously discredited Fake Stratum or "FS" begins with a false
denial, then continues with mere assertion re dismissal of complaint.
Does it care to give us a reference to an actual named source in the
office of Ms. Harris? The D.A. herself, perhaps? Some years have
passed since I last spoke with her.
Womack, listen up: you *are* well known to both
the DA's office and SFPD. Further I intend to
bring a criminal complaint against you. You
can deal with it then.
Hal Womack 3-dan
2009-03-28 21:25:00 UTC
Permalink
FS tacitly concedes that its previous denial was, indeed, false. It's
also unable to cite a named source, scarcely surprising, in view of
its own allergy to revealing its true name. Speaking of which, it
would have to do so in order to carry out its ridiculous threat.
The reader will doubtless note today's date and begin counting. I
promise to post the news if & when the D.A's office notifies me of any
such complaint.

==========================
Post by Stratum
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
The notoriously discredited Fake Stratum or "FS" begins with a false
denial, then continues with mere assertion re dismissal of complaint.
Does it care to give us a reference to an actual named source in the
office of Ms. Harris? The D.A. herself, perhaps? Some years have
passed since I last spoke with her.
Womack, listen up: you *are* well known to both
the DA's office and SFPD.  Further I intend to
bring a criminal complaint against you.  You
can deal with it then.
Stratum
2009-03-28 22:01:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
FS tacitly concedes that its previous denial was, indeed, false. It's
also unable to cite a named source, scarcely surprising, in view of
its own allergy to revealing its true name. Speaking of which, it
would have to do so in order to carry out its ridiculous threat.
The reader will doubtless note today's date and begin counting. I
promise to post the news if & when the D.A's office notifies me of any
such complaint.
==========================
Post by Stratum
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
The notoriously discredited Fake Stratum or "FS" begins with a false
denial, then continues with mere assertion re dismissal of complaint.
Does it care to give us a reference to an actual named source in the
office of Ms. Harris? The D.A. herself, perhaps? Some years have
passed since I last spoke with her.
Womack, listen up: you *are* well known to both
the DA's office and SFPD.  Further I intend to
bring a criminal complaint against you.  You
can deal with it then.
You have a criminal past and a known propensity for
using gun violence.

The following actions are in the mill and affect you:

a) Criminal complaints against you for making credible threats
against
public officials and other well known people.

b) A criminal complaint against you for filling a ciminal complaint
you knew to be false.

c) A civil lawsuit naming you as defendant for the most current and
past torts.

d) A petition to have you placed in the care of Adult Protective
Services.
Stan de SD
2009-03-28 23:42:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Stratum
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
FS tacitly concedes that its previous denial was, indeed, false. It's
also unable to cite a named source, scarcely surprising, in view of
its own allergy to revealing its true name. Speaking of which, it
would have to do so in order to carry out its ridiculous threat.
The reader will doubtless note today's date and begin counting. I
promise to post the news if & when the D.A's office notifies me of any
such complaint.
==========================
Post by Stratum
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
The notoriously discredited Fake Stratum or "FS" begins with a false
denial, then continues with mere assertion re dismissal of complaint.
Does it care to give us a reference to an actual named source in the
office of Ms. Harris? The D.A. herself, perhaps? Some years have
passed since I last spoke with her.
Womack, listen up: you *are* well known to both
the DA's office and SFPD.  Further I intend to
bring a criminal complaint against you.  You
can deal with it then.
You have a criminal past and a known propensity for
using gun violence.
a) Criminal complaints against you for making credible threats
against
public officials and other well known people.
b) A criminal complaint against you for filling a ciminal complaint
you knew to be false.
c) A civil lawsuit naming you as defendant for the most current and
past torts.
d) A petition to have you placed in the care of Adult Protective
Services
Maybe have him placed in care of the SF Zoo so the Dhaliwal brothers
can come by and visit? :O)
Stratum
2009-03-28 23:53:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Stratum
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
FS tacitly concedes that its previous denial was, indeed, false. It's
also unable to cite a named source, scarcely surprising, in view of
its own allergy to revealing its true name. Speaking of which, it
would have to do so in order to carry out its ridiculous threat.
The reader will doubtless note today's date and begin counting. I
promise to post the news if & when the D.A's office notifies me of any
such complaint.
==========================
Post by Stratum
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
The notoriously discredited Fake Stratum or "FS" begins with a false
denial, then continues with mere assertion re dismissal of complaint.
Does it care to give us a reference to an actual named source in the
office of Ms. Harris? The D.A. herself, perhaps? Some years have
passed since I last spoke with her.
Womack, listen up: you *are* well known to both
the DA's office and SFPD.  Further I intend to
bring a criminal complaint against you.  You
can deal with it then.
You have a criminal past and a known propensity for
using gun violence.
a) Criminal complaints against you for making credible threats
against
public officials and other well known people.
b) A criminal complaint against you for filling a ciminal complaint
you knew to be false.
c) A civil lawsuit naming you as defendant for the most current and
past torts.
d) A petition to have you placed in the care of Adult Protective
Services
Maybe have him placed in care of the SF Zoo so the Dhaliwal brothers
can come by and visit? :O)-
Stanley, I think I dispensed with two narcissists today, one in
this thread and one in another.

I have a shitload of work to do here in Big ol' D and really
shouldn't
be on here at all. As I told Craft, don't do anything I would.

Over and out.

<poof>
Hal Womack 3-dan
2009-03-29 06:48:36 UTC
Permalink
When bugs confer, they make a bit of chitter. One twit undoubtedly is
pondering ever so official actions against me down by dat ol' mill
stream, wishing only that it were the Dead Sea. Should either of these
two 3H kiddie-killers & slandermanders ever dare to reveal their
names, the first step will be a credit check.

========================
Post by Stratum
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Stratum
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
FS tacitly concedes that its previous denial was, indeed, false. It's
also unable to cite a named source, scarcely surprising, in view of
its own allergy to revealing its true name. Speaking of which, it
would have to do so in order to carry out its ridiculous threat.
The reader will doubtless note today's date and begin counting. I
promise to post the news if & when the D.A's office notifies me of any
such complaint.
==========================
Post by Stratum
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
The notoriously discredited Fake Stratum or "FS" begins with a false
denial, then continues with mere assertion re dismissal of complaint.
Does it care to give us a reference to an actual named source in the
office of Ms. Harris? The D.A. herself, perhaps? Some years have
passed since I last spoke with her.
Womack, listen up: you *are* well known to both
the DA's office and SFPD.  Further I intend to
bring a criminal complaint against you.  You
can deal with it then.
You have a criminal past and a known propensity for
using gun violence.
a) Criminal complaints against you for making credible threats
against
public officials and other well known people.
b) A criminal complaint against you for filling a ciminal complaint
you knew to be false.
c) A civil lawsuit naming you as defendant for the most current and
past torts.
d) A petition to have you placed in the care of Adult Protective
Services
Maybe have him placed in care of the SF Zoo so the Dhaliwal brothers
can come by and visit? :O)-
Stanley, I think I dispensed with two narcissists today, one in
this thread and one in another.
I have a shitload of work to do here in Big ol' D and really
shouldn't
be on here at all.  As I told Craft, don't do anything I would.
Over and out.
<poof>
Stan de SD
2009-03-30 08:02:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
When bugs confer, they make a bit of chitter. One twit undoubtedly is
pondering ever so official actions against me down by dat ol' mill
stream, wishing only that it were the Dead Sea. Should either of these
two 3H kiddie-killers & slandermanders ever dare to reveal their
names, the first step will be a credit check.
Why? Are you planning on loaning us money? Magen David Adom could use
some new equipment. :Oo
samvaknin
2009-04-05 09:40:13 UTC
Permalink
NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) and AsPD (Antisocial
Personality Disorder, Psychopathy, or Sociopathy)

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/personalitydisorders16.html

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/personalitydisorders15.html

Stan de SD
2009-03-31 23:04:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
{Speaking of the murdered Rachel Corrie
Corrie wasn't murdered - both G_d and Darwin put aside their
theological and philosophical differences for a minute and decided
that this one didn't need to dilute the gene pool... :O|
SMS
2009-04-01 01:29:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
{Speaking of the murdered Rachel Corrie
Corrie wasn't murdered - both G_d and Darwin put aside their
theological and philosophical differences for a minute and decided
that this one didn't need to dilute the gene pool... :O|
She was another unfortunate naive victim of the "International
Solidarity Movement." Well meaning, but with no understanding of the
situation in Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza.

Most Israeli's just want to be left alone by the the people in the
territories. They'd be thrilled to let the Palestinians create their own
country, but Arafat blew the chance with Clinton, deciding that it was
more politically advantageous to continue. What's happening in the
territories is horrible, but everyone knows why Israel went into Gaza
and why they're building the fence.
Stan de SD
2009-04-01 02:09:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by SMS
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
{Speaking of the murdered Rachel Corrie
Corrie wasn't murdered - both G_d and Darwin put aside their
theological and philosophical differences for a minute and decided
that this one didn't need to dilute the gene pool... :O|
She was another unfortunate naive victim of the "International
Solidarity Movement." Well meaning, but with no understanding of the
situation in Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza.
Most Israeli's just want to be left alone by the the people in the
territories. They'd be thrilled to let the Palestinians create their own
country, but Arafat blew the chance with Clinton, deciding that it was
more politically advantageous to continue. What's happening in the
territories is horrible, but everyone knows why Israel went into Gaza
and why they're building the fence.
In 2000, I was staying in Ashkelon and commuting to work in Kiryat Gat
near Lachish. The roads were crowded with Palestinian trucks, buses,
pickups, and taxis heading to work, just as every morning tens
thousands of Mexicans head up from Tijuana to go to their day jobs in
San Diego. Not only did people go to jobs (we had several Palestinian
workers who did their work, minded their business, and gave no
problems to anyone), but Palestinians would bring their sheep and
goats up from Gaza to graze. That ended after the 2000 intifadah and
the hundreds of suicide bombings that forced the Israelis to build the
current security wall and revoke the work permits of thousands of
Palestinians.

The intifadah and the bombings weren't just about terrorizing the
Israelis but about destroying the lives of the GENUINE peace-loving
Palestinians - those who were able to reconcile their religious
beliefs while still working side-by-side with Jews, Christians and
nonbelievers. What the ignorant and gullible lefties FAIL to realize
is that Hamas never WANTED peace, security or prosperity for its own
people. Palestinians working with Israelis on a regular basis
threatened to undermine Hamas' long-standing program of pumping their
own people's minds full of hate and rage. The same militant Islamic
states such as Syria that funnel weapons and blood money for suicide
bombers do NOTHING for the so-called Palestinian "refugees". The ISM
types, more intent on pushing their doctrinaire agenda than looking at
the truth, are complicit in the butchery and brutality inflicted by
AND on the Palestinians. :O|
SMS
2009-04-01 06:24:48 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
The intifadah and the bombings weren't just about terrorizing the
Israelis but about destroying the lives of the GENUINE peace-loving
Palestinians - those who were able to reconcile their religious
beliefs while still working side-by-side with Jews, Christians and
nonbelievers. What the ignorant and gullible lefties FAIL to realize
is that Hamas never WANTED peace, security or prosperity for its own
people. Palestinians working with Israelis on a regular basis
threatened to undermine Hamas' long-standing program of pumping their
own people's minds full of hate and rage. The same militant Islamic
states such as Syria that funnel weapons and blood money for suicide
bombers do NOTHING for the so-called Palestinian "refugees". The ISM
types, more intent on pushing their doctrinaire agenda than looking at
the truth, are complicit in the butchery and brutality inflicted by
AND on the Palestinians. :O|
Well stated. And the gullible and naive people that fall for the ISM
propaganda end up getting hurt or killed, which of course feeds right
into the ISM propaganda. Anderson and Corrie were just pawns in the game.
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