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The 11 Dumbest Things Sarah Palin Has Said So Far
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2008-10-23 13:30:03 UTC
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The 11 Dumbest Things Sarah Palin Has Said So Far

By AlterNet Staff, AlterNet. Posted October 23, 2008.

Presenting a roundup of Sarah Palin's most hilarious, shocking and
scary statements since she was added to the McCain ticket.

When Sarah Palin was first added to the Republican ticket, the McCain
campaign went to almost comical extremes to guard her from press
scrutiny. The Alaska governor was hustled through photo opportunities,
kept from doing interviews and hidden from reporters at several
events. Palin did prove adept at reading from a teleprompter in front
of conservative supporters, though, so the campaign mostly had her do
that.

When Palin finally made her teleprompter-free debut in an interview
with Charlie Gibson, it became clear why McCain had effectively kept
his running mate in quarantine: Palin was uninformed and inarticulate;
she said embarrassingly stupid things; and she looked at Gibson as
though he were pointing a loaded crossbow at her.

Since then, the Alaska governor has done little to dispel concerns
that she can't articulate thoughts that aren't preprogrammed talking
points. More than once, Palin has slipped into George W. Bush
territory with statements so absurdly inane they seem closer to Dada
art than standard political speech.

We've assembled the 11 strangest, dumbest, most alarming and most
harmful statements to come courtesy of Palin since she joined the
McCain ticket. Here is Gov. Sarah Palin, in her own words.

1. The News Makes Me Sad ... So I Don't Watch It

Sarah Palin at a North Carolina fundraiser:


At those times on the campaign trail when sometimes it's easy to get a
little bit discouraged, when, you know, when you happen to turn on the
news when your campaign staffers will let you turn on the news ...
Usually they're like "Oh my gosh, don't watch. You're going to, you
know, you're going to get depressed."

Maybe her handlers could put on a puppet show instead -- something fun
that allows Palin to maintain her cheery optimism in the face of
overwhelming evidence that the McCain campaign has imploded. There was
once another politician similarly unconcerned with current events and
the news: George W. Bush. That went well.

2. The People Don't Elect U.S. Presidents, God Does

Upon being asked by James Dobson if the McCain ticket's precipitous
slide in the polls gets her down:


... [it] strengthens my faith, because I'm going to know, at the end
of the day, putting this in God's hands, that the right thing for
America will be done at the end of the day on Nov. 4. So I'm not
discouraged at all.


... and I can feel it too, Dr. Dobson. I can feel the power of prayer,
and that strength that is provided through our prayer warriors across
this nation.

Ah yes, the always helpful "prayer warriors," whose appeals to the
Almighty actually count for more than the average American citizen's
vote. Apparently the next president of the United States will be
handpicked by God.

3. Palin Believes in "Divided" States of America

At a fundraiser:


We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we
get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the
real America, being here with all of you hardworking, very patriotic,
um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation.

Palin later apologized for the statement. But her backpedaling
shouldn't get her off the hook for putting forth a deeply divisive
vision of America. How would conservatives have reacted if, in an
attempt to pander to yuppie liberals, Obama said "I love visiting the
parts of the country where people aren't close-minded assholes"?
Probably not well.

4. The Vice President Is Supreme Boss of the Senate

Here's what Palin said when Brandon, an elementary school student,
asked: "What does the vice president do?"


That's something that Piper would ask me! ... They're in charge of the
U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the
senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life
better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.

To be fair, Palin had no idea what the VP does the last time the issue
came up, so this is almost an improvement. Except that saying the vice
president is in charge of the U.S. Senate reveals an embarrassing
ignorance of our government's system of checks and balances. Also,
it's a bit disconcerting to hear someone running for VP endow that
office with God-like powers over a separate branch of government.

5. Delusional Response to Troopergate

"Well, I'm very, very pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing
... any hint of any kind of unethical activity there," said Sarah
Palin last Sunday, soon after she was found to have engaged in
wrongdoing and unethical activity in the "Troopergate" investigation.
Again, a propensity for denial and lies, a deep aversion to reality --
not the best ways to signal your commitment to "change" from "politics
as usual."

6. Vicious Attack on Obama

The following quote needs little introduction. It's famous now, not
only for its inaccuracy but also for how much this line of attack has
fallen flat with voters and backfired on the McCain campaign:


Our opponent though, is someone who sees America it seems as being so
imperfect that he's palling around with terrorists who would target
their own country.

Outright deception is probably not something the American voters are
looking to put in the White House; pretty sure they've had enough of
that in the past eight years.

7. The Lord is a Pollster

While speaking in North Carolina, Palin decided to take a moment to
thank God for a very small bump she and McCain experienced in their
otherwise sliding poll numbers.


We even saw today, thank the Lord, we saw some movement.

People often thank God for things that appear to be outside the realm
of divine intervention. An incredibly small bump in the polls though?
Seems excessive. Not to mention, Obama now has the widest lead he has
ever had in the polls. Should God be given credit for that too?

8. America's Teachers' Rewards Are in Heaven (but Nowhere to Be Found
on Earth)

In the vice presidential debate, Palin had this to say about Sen. Joe
Biden's wife's career in education:


You mentioned education, and I'm glad that you did. I know education
you are passionate about with your wife being a teacher for 30 years,
and God bless her. Her reward is in heaven, right?

Governor, America's teachers should not have to wait until heaven;
they should be praised and rewarded right here on Earth. Possibly with
living-wage salaries.

9. I Read ... All the Publications

When Katie Couric asked Palin the complex trick question of where she
gets her news, the two women had the following exchange:


Couric: And when it comes to establishing your world view, I was
curious, what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before
you were tapped for this -- to stay informed and to understand the
world?


Palin: I've read most of them again with a great appreciation for the
press, for the media --


Couric: But what ones specifically? I'm curious.


Palin: Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me over
all these years.


Couric: Can you name any of them?


Palin: I have a vast variety of sources where we get our news.

With all of the intensive reading Palin has done over the years, it's
a wonder she's had time to do other important things, like govern
Alaska and learn to play the flute.

10. Some of my best friends are gay, but ...

From the same interview with Couric:


One of my absolute best friends for the last 30 years happens to be
gay and I love her dearly, and she is not my "gay" friend, she is one
of my best friends, who happens to have made a choice that isn't a
choice that I have made, but ... I'm not gonna judge people.

Stating in no uncertain terms that being gay is a choice is an odd
thing to do on mainstream, national television when medical and
psychological associations have contended for years that sexual
orientation is biologically determined. Then, she slimily criticizes
that so-called "choice" by saying it is not one she would make. But
hey, some of her best friends are gay ...

11. A Little Wet Behind the Ears ...

During the vice presidential debate, when Palin was asked which policy
plans proposed by the McCain-Palin ticket would have to suffer due to
the current economic crisis, Palin gave a pretty dubious response:
none. When pressed on the issue, Palin decided that an easy out would
be to fall back on her inexperience:


And how long have I been at this, like five weeks?

Uh ... wow, that actually wasn't dumb at all. In that case, she was
absolutely right.

That's our list. Please make any additions you see fit in the comments
below.
Curt
2008-10-23 18:48:16 UTC
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2. The People Don't Elect U.S. Presidents, God Does
Upon being asked by James Dobson if the McCain ticket's precipitous
... [it] strengthens my faith, because I'm going to know, at the end
of the day, putting this in God's hands, that the right thing for
America will be done at the end of the day on Nov. 4. So I'm not
discouraged at all.
I wonder, when Obama walks effortlessly away with the election, if
Palin's supporters will consider God's will done. Or if they'll go
blow up a Federal courthouse, kinda like last time.

Curt
kujebak
2008-10-23 19:51:39 UTC
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Post by Curt
Post by m***@use.net
2. The People Don't Elect U.S. Presidents, God Does
Upon being asked by James Dobson if the McCain ticket's precipitous
... [it] strengthens my faith, because I'm going to know, at the end
of the day, putting this in God's hands, that the right thing for
America will be done at the end of the day on Nov. 4. So I'm not
discouraged at all.
I wonder, when Obama walks effortlessly away with the election, if
Palin's supporters will consider God's will done. Or if they'll go
blow up a Federal courthouse, kinda like last time.
Curt
What scares the shit out of me is the thought of that would
follow if Obama *did not* win. Imagine Rodney King-style mad-
ness in major cities all across America. Which is why now
everyone must hope and pray that he does ;-)
Scratch
2008-10-23 22:18:08 UTC
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Post by kujebak
Post by Curt
Post by m***@use.net
2. The People Don't Elect U.S. Presidents, God Does
Upon being asked by James Dobson if the McCain ticket's precipitous
... [it] strengthens my faith, because I'm going to know, at the end
of the day, putting this in God's hands, that the right thing for
America will be done at the end of the day on Nov. 4. So I'm not
discouraged at all.
I wonder, when Obama walks effortlessly away with the election, if
Palin's supporters will consider God's will done. Or if they'll go
blow up a Federal courthouse, kinda like last time.
Curt
What scares the shit out of me is the thought of that would
follow if Obama *did not* win. Imagine Rodney King-style mad-
ness in major cities all across America. Which is why now
everyone must hope and pray that he does ;-)
Don't know about you but I got several guns lots of ammo plenty of fast
car, friends who also have the same. Someone breaks in my home if the dog
doesn't get em I will. It won't be cost free for anyone. Not looking for
trouble but it best not come knocking on my door. I'm one of those gun
lovers who cling to my bible.
--
http://youtu.be/KSemkPChvHo



"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do
nothing." - Edmund Burke
aw
2008-10-24 00:03:53 UTC
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Post by Scratch
Post by kujebak
Post by Curt
Post by m***@use.net
2. The People Don't Elect U.S. Presidents, God Does
Upon being asked by James Dobson if the McCain ticket's precipitous
... [it] strengthens my faith, because I'm going to know, at the end
of the day, putting this in God's hands, that the right thing for
America will be done at the end of the day on Nov. 4. So I'm not
discouraged at all.
I wonder, when Obama walks effortlessly away with the election, if
Palin's supporters will consider God's will done. Or if they'll go
blow up a Federal courthouse, kinda like last time.
Curt
What scares the shit out of me is the thought of that would
follow if Obama *did not* win. Imagine Rodney King-style mad-
ness in major cities all across America. Which is why now
everyone must hope and pray that he does ;-)
Don't know about you but I got several guns lots of ammo plenty of fast
car, friends who also have the same. Someone breaks in my home if the dog
doesn't get em I will. It won't be cost free for anyone. Not looking for
trouble but it best not come knocking on my door. I'm one of those gun
lovers who cling to my bible.
--
http://youtu.be/KSemkPChvHo
Who's that guy? Obama son?:-))
Post by Scratch
"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do
nothing." - Edmund Burke
That's how W (two war, recession,) won. :-)))
Curt
2008-10-24 00:15:36 UTC
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Post by Curt
I wonder, when Obama walks effortlessly away with the election, if
Palin's supporters will consider God's will done. Or if they'll go
blow up a Federal courthouse, kinda like last time.
Curt
What scares the shit out of me is the thought of that would
follow if Obama *did not* win. Imagine Rodney King-style mad-
ness in major cities all across America. Which is why now
everyone must hope and pray that he does ;-)
Interesting viewpoint. I have to say I'm not in the slightest worried
about that.

Curt
kujebak
2008-10-24 01:04:08 UTC
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Post by Curt
Post by kujebak
Post by Curt
I wonder, when Obama walks effortlessly away with the election, if
Palin's supporters will consider God's will done. Or if they'll go
blow up a Federal courthouse, kinda like last time.
Curt
What scares the shit out of me is the thought of that would
follow if Obama *did not* win. Imagine Rodney King-style mad-
ness in major cities all across America. Which is why now
everyone must hope and pray that he does ;-)
Interesting viewpoint. I have to say I'm not in the slightest worried
about that.
Curt
You're right. I'm sure that black-on-white violence
is not something we have to be concerned about ;-)

http://tinyurl.com/57b55c
Curt
2008-10-24 05:02:33 UTC
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Post by Curt
Post by kujebak
Post by Curt
I wonder, when Obama walks effortlessly away with the election, if
Palin's supporters will consider God's will done. Or if they'll go
blow up a Federal courthouse, kinda like last time.
Curt
What scares the shit out of me is the thought of that would
follow if Obama *did not* win. Imagine Rodney King-style mad-
ness in major cities all across America. Which is why now
everyone must hope and pray that he does ;-)
Interesting viewpoint. I have to say I'm not in the slightest worried
about that.
Curt
You're right. I'm sure that black-on-white violence
is not something we have to be concerned about ;-)
I don't think we have to worry about any large-scale violence at all.
I do suspect there will be some right-wing OKC or Planned Parenthood
type violence when Obama wins. When stupid people get frustrated, they
tend to lash out the only way they know how.

Curt
kujebak
2008-10-24 21:31:16 UTC
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Post by Curt
Post by kujebak
Post by Curt
Post by kujebak
Post by Curt
I wonder, when Obama walks effortlessly away with the election, if
Palin's supporters will consider God's will done. Or if they'll go
blow up a Federal courthouse, kinda like last time.
Curt
What scares the shit out of me is the thought of that would
follow if Obama *did not* win. Imagine Rodney King-style mad-
ness in major cities all across America. Which is why now
everyone must hope and pray that he does ;-)
Interesting viewpoint. I have to say I'm not in the slightest worried
about that.
Curt
You're right. I'm sure that black-on-white violence
is not something we have to be concerned about ;-)
I don't think we have to worry about any large-scale violence at all.
I do suspect there will be some right-wing OKC or Planned Parenthood
type violence when Obama wins. When stupid people get frustrated, they
tend to lash out the only way they know how.
But what if he doesn't win?
Post by Curt
Curt
Curt
2008-10-25 13:15:30 UTC
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Post by kujebak
Post by Curt
Post by kujebak
Post by Curt
Post by kujebak
Post by Curt
I wonder, when Obama walks effortlessly away with the election, if
Palin's supporters will consider God's will done. Or if they'll go
blow up a Federal courthouse, kinda like last time.
Curt
What scares the shit out of me is the thought of that would
follow if Obama *did not* win. Imagine Rodney King-style mad-
ness in major cities all across America. Which is why now
everyone must hope and pray that he does ;-)
Interesting viewpoint. I have to say I'm not in the slightest worried
about that.
Curt
You're right. I'm sure that black-on-white violence
is not something we have to be concerned about ;-)
I don't think we have to worry about any large-scale violence at all.
I do suspect there will be some right-wing OKC or Planned Parenthood
type violence when Obama wins. When stupid people get frustrated, they
tend to lash out the only way they know how.
But what if he doesn't win?
If the polls are to be believed, that's not likely. If he doesn't,
I'll have to change some of my mutual funds around a bit. Again.

Curt
Lobby Dosser
2008-10-26 09:26:24 UTC
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Post by Curt
Post by kujebak
Post by Curt
Post by kujebak
Post by Curt
Post by kujebak
Post by Curt
I wonder, when Obama walks effortlessly away with the election, if
Palin's supporters will consider God's will done. Or if they'll go
blow up a Federal courthouse, kinda like last time.
Curt
What scares the shit out of me is the thought of that would
follow if Obama *did not* win. Imagine Rodney King-style mad-
ness in major cities all across America. Which is why now
everyone must hope and pray that he does ;-)
Interesting viewpoint. I have to say I'm not in the slightest worried
about that.
Curt
You're right. I'm sure that black-on-white violence
is not something we have to be concerned about ;-)
I don't think we have to worry about any large-scale violence at all.
I do suspect there will be some right-wing OKC or Planned Parenthood
type violence when Obama wins. When stupid people get frustrated, they
tend to lash out the only way they know how.
But what if he doesn't win?
If the polls are to be believed, that's not likely. If he doesn't,
I'll have to change some of my mutual funds around a bit. Again.
He's got 8%. The talking heads say he needs double digits to account
for white folk who are lying.
Bill Shatzer
2008-10-26 23:04:34 UTC
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Lobby Dosser wrote:

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He's got 8%. The talking heads say he needs double digits to account
for white folk who are lying.
The Fox talking heads perhaps - who seldom know what they're talking
about in any event.

The "Bradley Effect" is dead, if it ever existed.

There is considerable evidence that it did not.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/the_bradley_effect_selective_m.html

But, you just keep right on clinging to your illusions - right up 'til
November 4.

Peace and justice,

Lobby Dosser
2008-10-24 03:07:58 UTC
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Post by Curt
Post by kujebak
Post by Curt
I wonder, when Obama walks effortlessly away with the election, if
Palin's supporters will consider God's will done. Or if they'll go
blow up a Federal courthouse, kinda like last time.
Curt
What scares the shit out of me is the thought of that would
follow if Obama *did not* win. Imagine Rodney King-style mad-
ness in major cities all across America. Which is why now
everyone must hope and pray that he does ;-)
Interesting viewpoint. I have to say I'm not in the slightest worried
about that.
But then, you're a Moron.
p***@gmail.com
2008-10-24 06:09:12 UTC
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Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Curt
Post by kujebak
Post by Curt
I wonder, when Obama walks effortlessly away with the election, if
Palin's supporters will consider God's will done. Or if they'll go
blow up a Federal courthouse, kinda like last time.
Curt
What scares the shit out of me is the thought of that would
follow if Obama *did not* win. Imagine Rodney King-style mad-
ness in major cities all across America. Which is why now
everyone must hope and pray that he does ;-)
Interesting viewpoint. I have to say I'm not in the slightest worried
about that.
But then, you're a Moron.
Hey, kujebak, or anybody else, have you any idea why is this thread
cross-posted to soc.culture.czecho-slovak?

pjk
Scratch
2008-10-23 22:10:54 UTC
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Post by m***@use.net
... [it] strengthens my faith, because I'm going to know, at the end
of the day, putting this in God's hands, that the right thing for
America will be done at the end of the day on Nov. 4. So I'm not
discouraged at all.
I wonder, when Obama walks effortlessly away with the election, if
Palin's supporters will consider God's will done. Or if they'll go
blow up a Federal courthouse, kinda like last time.
Curt
It's God's plan not yours but the bad must come before the good. Could
this be it? Or will it be later?


Remember there is a 40 70 and 120 year generation and also remember what
he (Jesus) said about the good and bad fig tree and you can start the
count down from 1948 when it was planted (Israel became a nation). You
sir are a liar about Christians blowing up a federal building. That was
Timothy McVey and it is God who separates' the wheat from the chaff. But
you being an atheist probably have absolutely no idea what the hell I am
even talking about. So you can wait for the big surprise.
--
http://youtu.be/KSemkPChvHo



"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do
nothing." - Edmund Burke
Curt
2008-10-24 00:21:44 UTC
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On Oct 23, 3:10 pm, Scratch
Post by Scratch
Post by Curt
Post by m***@use.net
... [it] strengthens my faith, because I'm going to know, at the end
of the day, putting this in God's hands, that the right thing for
America will be done at the end of the day on Nov. 4. So I'm not
discouraged at all.
I wonder, when Obama walks effortlessly away with the election, if
Palin's supporters will consider God's will done. Or if they'll go
blow up a Federal courthouse, kinda like last time.
Curt
It's God's plan not yours but the bad must come before the good. Could
this be it? Or will it be later?
Neither.
Post by Scratch
Remember there is a 40 70 and 120 year generation and also remember what
he (Jesus) said about the good and bad fig tree and you can start the
count down from 1948 when it was planted (Israel became a nation). You
You sound a lot like Louis Farrakhan. He does that numerology stuff
too. It's basically drawing room magic, invented by the Egyptians like
5000 years ago.
Post by Scratch
sir are a liar about Christians blowing up a federal building. That was
Timothy McVey and it is God who separates' the wheat from the chaff. But
Timothy McVeigh was a right wing Christian who was angry at the
Democratic party.
Post by Scratch
you being an atheist probably have absolutely no idea what the hell I am
even talking about. So you can wait for the big surprise.
I'll be waiting a long time. And where'd you get the goofy idea I'm an
atheist?

Curt
Bill Shatzer
2008-10-24 04:18:58 UTC
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Post by Scratch
Post by Curt
Post by m***@use.net
... [it] strengthens my faith, because I'm going to know, at the end
of the day, putting this in God's hands, that the right thing for
America will be done at the end of the day on Nov. 4. So I'm not
discouraged at all.
I wonder, when Obama walks effortlessly away with the election, if
Palin's supporters will consider God's will done. Or if they'll go
blow up a Federal courthouse, kinda like last time.
Curt
It's God's plan not yours but the bad must come before the good. Could
this be it? Or will it be later?
Remember there is a 40 70 and 120 year generation and also remember what
he (Jesus) said about the good and bad fig tree and you can start the
count down from 1948 when it was planted (Israel became a nation). You
sir are a liar about Christians blowing up a federal building. That was
Timothy McVey and it is God who separates' the wheat from the chaff. But
you being an atheist probably have absolutely no idea what the hell I am
even talking about. So you can wait for the big surprise.
Memo to scratch: Pick up two rolls of Reynolds Wrap, heavy duty.

Remember, the shiny side goes on the outside.

And incidentally, Jesus also said, "But of that day and hour knoweth no
man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

Pretty presumptuous of you to be claiming to know what Jesus himself
said no man - yerself included - nor even angels, could know.

Peace and justice,
Scratch
2008-10-24 21:25:27 UTC
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Post by Scratch
Remember there is a 40 70 and 120 year generation and also remember
what he (Jesus) said about the good and bad fig tree and you can
start the count down from 1948 when it was planted (Israel became a
nation). You sir are a liar about Christians blowing up a federal
building. That was Timothy McVey and it is God who separates' the
wheat from the chaff. But you being an atheist probably have
absolutely no idea what the hell I am even talking about. So you can
wait for the big surprise.
Memo to scratch: Pick up two rolls of Reynolds Wrap, heavy duty.
Remember, the shiny side goes on the outside.
And incidentally, Jesus also said, "But of that day and hour knoweth
no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."
Pretty presumptuous of you to be claiming to know what Jesus himself
said no man - yerself included - nor even angels, could know.
Your not to bright at this stuff are you BS? Did you see me put a 'DATE'
in the above as you say? How about an 'HOUR' did you see the 'time' in my
post? Do you even understand the word 'Generation' as I mentioned above
Got a Strongs Concordance?

Read

Eze 12:2
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http://youtu.be/KSemkPChvHo



"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do
nothing." - Edmund Burke
Bill Shatzer
2008-10-24 23:01:20 UTC
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Post by Scratch
Post by Bill Shatzer
Post by Scratch
Remember there is a 40 70 and 120 year generation and also remember
what he (Jesus) said about the good and bad fig tree and you can
start the count down from 1948 when it was planted (Israel became a
nation). You sir are a liar about Christians blowing up a federal
building. That was Timothy McVey and it is God who separates' the
wheat from the chaff. But you being an atheist probably have
absolutely no idea what the hell I am even talking about. So you can
wait for the big surprise.
Memo to scratch: Pick up two rolls of Reynolds Wrap, heavy duty.
Remember, the shiny side goes on the outside.
And incidentally, Jesus also said, "But of that day and hour knoweth
no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."
Pretty presumptuous of you to be claiming to know what Jesus himself
said no man - yerself included - nor even angels, could know.
Your not to bright at this stuff are you BS? Did you see me put a 'DATE'
in the above as you say? How about an 'HOUR' did you see the 'time' in my
post? Do you even understand the word 'Generation' as I mentioned above
Got a Strongs Concordance?
You're the one who claims to know when the "countdown" began.
Post by Scratch
Eze 12:2
The Hebrew bible no longer counts. Haven't you been paying attention?

In the meantime, don't forget to pick up the Reynolds Wrap. It'll be
tough to come by once the End of Times begin.

Peace and justice,
Ockham's Razor
2008-10-24 23:03:04 UTC
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Post by Scratch
you can
Post by Scratch
start the count down from 1948 when it was planted (Israel became a
nation).
Now just why the fuck would even a minor god take notice of something
such as that?

If it was so important to god, Israel would never have disappeared for
about 2000 years and if the tree was necessary symbolically, shouldn't
the god have caused it to spring into existance full grown and full of
figs?

Oh, shit, I forgot about that mysterious ways crap. The ever present
cop out for those who propose to speak for the god but never get it
right.
--
I contend we are both atheists - I just believe in
one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you reject all other gods,
you will understand why I reject yours as well.
Stephen F. Roberts
Bob
2008-10-24 03:47:19 UTC
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:48:16 -0700 (PDT), Curt
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2. The People Don't Elect U.S. Presidents, God Does
Upon being asked by James Dobson if the McCain ticket's precipitous
... [it] strengthens my faith, because I'm going to know, at the end
of the day, putting this in God's hands, that the right thing for
America will be done at the end of the day on Nov. 4. So I'm not
discouraged at all.
I wonder, when Obama walks effortlessly away with the election, if
Palin's supporters will consider God's will done. Or if they'll go
blow up a Federal courthouse, kinda like last time.
(Curt provides evidence that Palin supporters blew up a federal
courthouse)

Oh, wait - never mind. He was thinking of the terrorist friends of
the object of his Oboner...
Scratch
2008-10-23 22:03:24 UTC
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The 11 Dumbest Things Sarah Palin Has Said So Far
By AlterNet Staff, AlterNet. Posted October 23, 2008.
Presenting a roundup of Sarah Palin's most hilarious, shocking and
scary statements since she was added to the McCain ticket.
And Joe Biden? Lets not give him a pass!


Nightly news shows still haven’t tired of replaying Sarah Palin’s
infamous interview with Katie Couric. But how many times have they
replayed Joe Biden’s botched interview with Couric last month – in which
he cluelessly claimed: “When the stock market crashed, Franklin D.
Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the, you know,
the princes of greed. He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened.’”

Er, here’s what really happened: Roosevelt wasn’t president when the
market crashed in 1929. As for appearing on TV, it was still in its
infant stages and wasn’t available to the general public until at least
ten years later.

During the lone VP debate earlier this month, the increasingly erratic,
super-gaffetastic Joe Biden demonstrated more historical ignorance that
Sarah Palin would never have been able to get away with: “Vice President
Cheney’s been the most dangerous vice president we’ve had probably in
American history,” Biden said. “He has the idea he doesn’t realize that
Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of
the United States, that’s the executive — he works in the executive
branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that.”

Article 1 of the Constitution defines the role of the legislative branch,
not the executive branch. You would think someone who has served 36 years
in government – the same someone who is quick to remind others of his
high IQ and longtime Senate Judiciary Committee chairmanship – would know
better
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"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do
nothing." - Edmund Burke
Bob
2008-10-24 03:42:35 UTC
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The 11 Dumbest Things Sarah Palin Has Said So Far
Wow. Palin really has you guys soiling your underoos in fear.
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