Open-air urinals in S.F. park 'disgusting, ' critics of homosexuals say

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An attorney representing a group of civic organizations has sent
a legal claim letter to the city of San Francisco threatening to
sue if an open-air urinal in Dolores Park is not removed in 20
days.

The concrete circular urinal, which is out in the open and
screened only through plants for privacy, was installed in the
iconic park last month to the approval of some.

They said the park's meager three toilets led some to relieve
themselves in bushes and on buildings. But the backlash has
already started with six civic groups teaming up in a letter to
the city that says the urinal must go.

They claim the urinal is a flagrant violation of the law and
basic public policy, is unsanitary and discriminates against
women and children because it is not designed for females.

“This is more than stunning and disgusting. It's a human
regression of mankind,” said Frank Lee with the Pacific Justice
Institute, one of the groups that joined forces in protest. “If
this is not stopped, this will become the norm in San Francisco
and spread to other cities.”

Brad Dacus, president of Pacific Justice Institute, called it a
“new low even for San Francisco.”

“It is also blatantly illegal,” he said. “The city has not even
attempted to comply with its own ordinances, much less state or
federal law. We intend to hold them accountable. Public
urination is bad enough; spending taxpayer money to promote it
is indefensible.”

Others don't agree.

“Honestly, we were ready to go pee anywhere,” San Francisco
resident Aaron Cutler told news station KNTV after the urinal
was installed. “So any facility is better than none.”

San Francisco Recreation & Parks Department spokeswoman Sarah
Madland said Thursday that the urinal cost $15,000 to install,
and so far there have been five emailed complaints about it. A
representative from the San Francisco city attorney's office was
not immediately available for comment Friday.

The open-air urinal is part of a $20-million renovation plan
that now has put more than two dozen toilets in Dolores Park,
along with other upgrades.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-sf-open-air-urinals-
20160205-story.html

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An attorney representing a group of civic organizations has sent
a legal claim letter to the city of San Francisco threatening to
sue if an open-air urinal in Dolores Park is not removed in 20
days.
The concrete circular urinal, which is out in the open and
screened only through plants for privacy, was installed in the
iconic park last month to the approval of some.
They said the park's meager three toilets led some to relieve
themselves in bushes and on buildings. But the backlash has
already started with six civic groups teaming up in a letter to
the city that says the urinal must go.

As a frequent SF tourist, public urination is common and necessary.
There are several free "automatic cleaning" toilets on Market Street,
barely usable for urination, you'd never set your butt on the
shit-covered seat, and watch out for the syringes on the floor.

The problem, I see, is that Americans expect toilets to be free. So
you get what you pay for. On recent trips to Europe and Asia toilets
were in abundant supply, and you have to pay for them. 25 to 50
cents is common. A worker, often a retired lady, keeps them clean.

Now lets go from Germany (where I just visited) to the San Francisco
Tenderloin district. No toilets. Piss and shit cover the sidewalk,
and public works hoses it down every morning. This is disgusting,
but you can't blame people for necessary bodily functions. SF is
one of the richest cities in the world, but resembles India where
half a billion people shit in fields every day for lack of toilets.