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JEWS AT OXFORD SILENCE DAVID IRVING;
AT SAN FRANCISCO _CHRONICLE_ DITTO FOR HAL WOMACK (at least
momentarily)

By Hal Womack 3-dan
http://www.myspace.com/halwomack

Today Monday 071126 the monopoly local blatt carried an AP story
(copied below as Appendix B) on Jewish-led hooligans at Oxford
forcibly disrupting a speech by world-famous historian and ex-con
David Irving. I added my comment thereon (Appendix A) to the dozen
existing remarks.

Within 10 minutes some nameless lackey of Publisher Frank Vega and
Editor Phil Bronstein of the San Francisco CHRONICLE erased my post
without a trace whatsoever.

Since these two gentlemen have thus called themselves to my
attention, I now formally charge them before the court of world public
opinion with being co-conspirators in the murders of Iman al-Hams, of
Akaber Zaid, of Rachel Corrie and of more than 3,000,000 other
innocent victims of wanton imperial violence in the last two decades
alone.

Sixty-one years ago this past weekend, on Saturday 23 November 1946,
the U.S.Government under Harry Truman instigated the navy of their
French puppets to bombard the port of Haiphong in northern Vietnam,
killing at least 6,000 civilians there. This was the first major
violation of the Nuremburg Tribunal's revolutionary
ex post facto prohibition of aggressive war which the victors in the
Atomic War aka WW2 had announced only the year before at the Nuremburg
War Crimes Tribunal.

The next landmark war crime of our modern era was the Jews' massacre
of the peaceful Arab village of Deir Yassin
near Jerusalem on Friday April 9th 1948. The Zionists in Israel under
the misleadership of David Ben Gurion --who fifteen years later in
concert with the old arch-Jew Bernard Baruch deviously would
assassinate U.S. President John F. Kennedy-- carried out this attack
in order systematically to terrorize, if the reader will kindly mark
the word here, the lawful native inhabitants of Palestine
into fleeing their ancient homes. Then the invading European Jews
could, did and have ever since slept in houses built by the ancestors
of their victims.

From my post of November 1st: "We learn from Bruce Cumings'
magisterial account in his book
NORTH KOREA: ANOTHER COUNTRY that in 1949 the
U.S. military spooks actually ran cross-border black
ops from the South precisely in order to provoke the
fierce patriot Kim Il-Sung to retaliate against the weak
regime of the despised US & former Japanese puppet
Syngman Rhee. Kim understandably sought to unify
his ancient nation, regardless of the wishes of his big
neighbors in China and the USSR.
But this martial spirit played into the hands of
the Washington warmongers who were desperate for a
pretext to establish the permanent garrison state which
has in the last 6 years metastasized into the GWOT
phase of JAM or the Jewish-American eMpire. Bernard
Baruch and Harry Truman's other oligarchical masters saw military
'Keynesianism' aka War Capitalism as the only alternative they knew to
collapsing into
another Great Depression in their oligarchical system."

A dependable propaganda system for covering up its huge atrocities
and for blackening the reputation of the victims was and still is
absolutely necessary for the U.S. empire's criminal strategy.
The monopoly San Francisco CHRONICLE, now controlled by rich Jews
hiding under the mask of the Hearst Corporation, serves as the local
mouthpiece for this worldwide cabal of murderers, robbers and liars.
The life's blood of the Mayans of Guatemala, of the blacks of Angola &
of Mozambique as well, of course, as that of Arabs & Muslims and other
folk too numerous to list in their entirety in this paragraph, the
life's blood, I say, of millions foully slain the world over stains
the hands of Masters Frank Vega & Phil Bronstein & as well as the
claws of our Jewish misrepresentatives Dianne Feinstein, Barbara Boxer
and Tom Lantos.

Hence their embarrassing haste to censor my remarks, like a cat
scrabbling to cover its shit on a tin roof. The guilty do mortally
fear the truth.

Our living leaders on the Planet Earth are General Vo Nguyen Giap of
Vietnam; President Nelson Mandela of South Africa and his good friend
Bishop Desmond Tutu; Comandante Fidel Castro of Cuba; Presidents Hugo
Chavez of Venezuela, Evo Morales of Bolivia and Rafael Correa of
Ecuador; Alexander Solzhenitsyn of Russia; Robert Faurisson of France;
Dennis Halliday of Ireland;
Hans von Sponeck of Germany; Francis Boyle of Illinois; Paul Craig
Roberts; Sayyed Hassan Nasrollah of Lebanon, John Le Carre, George
Galloway of England; Muhammad Ali; Mel Gibson; Brian De Palma of
Hollywood; John Pilger of England; Michael Collins Piper, James
Petras, Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Rigoberta Menchu of Guatemala and
Alison Weir of Washington D.C.

How can we best help each other to win the human race against the
international Jewish tyranny? How can we establish justice under law
on Earth and constitute the world democracy? How can we bring the
perps to trial?
One helpful undertaking for students of journalism would be to follow
the example of Alison Weir in documenting the criminal JJ or joo-jingo
(my term) slant of the various important propaganda organs.
..................................................

{*Masthead Information
Frank J. Vega - Publisher and President
Phil Bronstein - Executive Vice President and Editor
John Diaz - Editorial Page Editor
http://www.sfgate.com/c/info/copyright/ }
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APPENDIX A:
{halwomack wrote:
David Irving probably the single leading historian on Nazi Germany.
Before his Austrian jail term, often an educational experience, he was
a bit of a whitist. Shame on the spineless Muslim collaborationists of
Oxford, who allowed the Jewish bullies there to lead them by the nose!
The tiny minority of Jews have established their worldwide tyranny
over the rest of our rainbow race by assassination, mass murder,
bribery, deception and leverage. "International Jewish Conspiracy" = a
redundundancy and the CHRONICLE's our local mouthpiece therefor. In
1963 David Ben Gurion and Bernard Baruch were co-captains for the JFK
hit*, just as Aerial Shaboom and Henry Kissinger were for the 9/11/01
made-for-TV stunt. Since the Jewish-American eMpire ("JAM") has
murdered millions in the last two decades alone, they are highly
allergic to free speech about their crimes. For the heirs of Genrikh
Jagoda (KGB, Ukraine, 1931) to cry "fascist": ludricrous in the
extreme. *FINAL JUDGMENT by Michael C. Piper.}
Posted 11/26/2007 2:52:02 PM}

modelcitizen wrote:
ohsigh, if halwomack's comment and apparent support for someone like
Irving indicate anything it is that the student's tactics were
appropriate.
Posted 11/26/2007 3:05:52 PM
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APPENDIX B:
{Protests Disrupt Oxford Forum
By MATT DUNHAM, Associated Press Writer
Monday, November 26, 2007
(11-26) 13:09 PST OXFORD, England (AP) --

Demonstrators broke into the venerable Oxford Union debating society
Monday night, sitting on the head table to disrupt a forum featuring a
historian who denies the Holocaust and a far-right politician.
At least 200 protesters chanted anti-fascist slogans and waved
placards opposing the appearance of historian David Irving and British
National Party leader Nick Griffin.
The two men were bundled into the hall hours before the forum was to
begin as protesters yelled "Keep Oxford fascist-free! We will defend
democracy!" at the noisy gathering.
Just minutes before the debate was to start, a group of protesters
broke through the security cordon thrown up around the Union and
pushed their way into the hall, where they staged a sit-down protest.
The start of the debate was delayed and it was not immediately clear
whether or when it would proceed.
Irving served 13 months in prison in Austria after his 2006 conviction
on charges stemming from 1989 speeches in which he was accused of
denying the Nazis exterminated 6 million Jews. He arrived at the forum
carrying a ball and chain.
Several student groups, including the Oxford Student Union and the
university's Jewish and Muslim societies, had teamed up with activist
group Unite Against Fascism to organize the protest.
"It's our way of showing that we all stand together ... opposed to
racism, opposed to hate," said Steven Altmann Richer, the co-president
of the Oxford University Jewish Society. "Obviously we think the issue
of free speech is very important, but it's very irresponsible to use
the union's prestigious platform to lend legitimacy to the views of
people like Nick Griffin and David Irving."
Union members voted Friday to allow the men to speak, despite calls to
revoke the invitations. The union's president, Luke Tryl, has said he
invited the men to talk about the limits of free speech, not to
expound on their views.
The Oxford Union debating society, while independent of Oxford
University, is composed mainly of university students.
"The reason the Oxford Union was founded 184 years ago was to promote
and defend freedom of speech. This is what this debate is about," Tryl
told Sky News on Sunday. "It is about an opportunity to challenge
David Irving and Nick Griffin."
Irving has refused to use the term Holocaust, calling it a concept
that "became cleverly marketed."
Griffin runs a party that campaigns on a fiercely anti-immigration and
anti-Muslim platform.
Conservative lawmaker Julian Lewis, who addressed the Union last week
in a debate on terrorism, said the students should be ashamed of
themselves. In a letter to the Union's officers and standing
committee, Lewis said he was resigning his life membership "with great
sadness."
"Nothing which happens in Monday's debate can possibly offset the
boost you are giving to a couple of scoundrels who can put up with
anything except being ignored," he wrote.
Last week, several lawmakers, including British Defense Secretary Des
Browne, canceled speaking engagements at the Union because they said
they found it inappropriate to speak in the same place.
But Liberal Democrat lawmaker Evan Harris, who is billed to speak at
the event, said banning Griffin and Irving would risk turning "bigots
into martyrs."
"It is the views of these extremists which are a disgrace, not their
right to hold their views," he said.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/11/26/international/i130907S99.DTL
*}
* OR http://tinyurl.com/39qmtc

=============================
From my post of 23 October 2003:
"I salute the venerable Prime Minister of Malaysia Mahathir
Mohamad for his recent plain speaking on the truly tortured nature of
contemporary world power. Perhaps, however, we should improve the
translation of his remarks by saying that the Jews tyrannize over and
against the 99.9% of normal humanity. To call it 'ruling' constitutes
a false compliment to the ancient malefactors of great stealth.
Bush, Clinton, Sharon and their accomplices deserve to hang for
their crimes against humanity. In order to bring about this just
result, the rest of us must learn to penetrate veils of deception and
expose hypocritical intrigues."
From my post of June 16th this year:
"Hans-Christof Graf von Sponeck is a former Assistant Secretary-
General of the United Nations & chief of their humanitarian relief
office in Baghdad during the Clinton blockade. In a public talk in
Berkeley in March of last year, Mr. von Sponeck estimated the total
number of Iraqi civilians deliberately murdered by the U.S.Government
since 1990 at around 2,000,000 [two million] and affirmed that the
justice-minded people of Earth have the duty to arrest and put to
trial on war crimes charges the officials guilty of this colossal
conspiracy."


====================================

Other Resources:

Abir Aramin, age 9, murdered by the Jews
on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, her picture:
http://tinyurl.com/2l6ogh
An Israeli mother, a Jewess, comments on the story:
http://tinyurl.com/3amvos
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

...............................................................

Here's the link to what I wrote on the eve of SonnaBush's (fronting
for Aerial Shaboom) invasion of Iraq:
http://tinyurl.com/2xcvdo

(The tag end of the piece was stuck on rather roughly by the HANDSTAND
editor & could profit from a bit of pruning.)

If any reader can find another article from that critical moment which
has better stood the test of time, will she please be so kind as to
tell me about it?
...........................................................................
For Susan Abulhawa's new novel of Palestine, SCAR OF DAVID (2006)
http://www.scarofdavid.com/blog/index.php?page_id=5
OR
http://tinyurl.com/2n77bo
...................................................................

http://www.americanfreepress.net/

FINAL JUDGMENT by Michael Collins Piper, first published in 1994 and
now in its 6th edition, lays out the Jewish background to the JFK hit
in >600 fascinating pages (which badly need editing, evenso --attn:
M&W).

(See the AFP site above also for the moving letter of 29 November 2006
from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad,
President of the Islamic Republic of Iran, directly addressed to
"Noble Americans" --maybe your local jewspaper forgot to pass it along
to you?)
.....................................................................

Five Principal Joojingo or "JJ" resources:
1. http://www.aipac.org/
2. The Bronfmen @ http://www.acbp.net/
3. http://www.jinsa.org/home/home.html
4. http://www.adl.org/
5. http://www.hasbara.co.il/

Four Righteous Jewish Antidotes:
1. http://www.ostrovskyfineart.com/index.htm
2. http://www.nkusa.org/index.cfm
3. http://www.israelshamir.net/
4. http://tinyurl.com/3c9jm8 OR
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/18/136217
........................................................
All rise,

http://www.counterpunch.org/dolby04032007.html
This clip was the first time I ever saw Marvin Gaye perform. The word
in my mind = "composure".
..........................................................................
Kidz Today:
A) Iron Maiden The Trooper By Gauchos

B) The Impeach Bush Club Parade
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4606006427048738351
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Flag of USrael:
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http://www.aztlan.net/women_martyrs.htm
http://www.jewwatch.com/
http://margaritaville.com/
http://www.hizbollah.org/
http://tinyurl.com/2r3stp
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http://tinyurl.com/3dlhhb
http://www.currentissues.tv/
http://www.waco93.com/
("Nadine Eats Pizza in Ramallah")
http://www.israelshamir.net/Contributors/Contributor47.htm
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http://www.counterpunch.org/levy03272006.html
http://vcnv.org/
http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=1
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=491
http://www.americanempireproject.com/index.asp
http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html
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http://www.nelsonmandela.org/
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http://www.sf911truth.org/
http://www.documentaryphotographs.com/
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
http://www.aztlan.net/
http://www.valleyofthewolvesiraq.com/high/main.html
http://www.johnkaminski.com/
http://electronicintifada.net/new.shtml
http://dahrjamailiraq.com/index.php
http://antiwar.com/
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/index.htm
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/
http://www.infowars.com/
http://english.wafa.ps/default.asp
http://www.araboo.com/site/arab-aaug-asq-9777
http://www.al-awda.org/
http://www.imemc.org/
http://www.vcnv.org/
http://www.ziopedia.org/content/view/3301/58/
http://antiwar.com/
http://www.cnionline.org/
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=
http://www.honestmediatoday.com/index.htm
http://prorev.com/indexa.htm
http://www.thankyoult.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
http://www.deiryassin.org/index1.html
http://www.marwenmedia.com/index.html
http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
http://www.thehandstand.org/
http://www.malaysiasun.com/
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/
http://tinyurl.com/79t3d
http://tinyurl.com/yt4tym ("Let It Be!")

http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,150 for "free your mind, the rest will
follow".
"Buck" @Cowtown.net>
2007-11-27 02:40:52 UTC
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You are a pathetic, frightened fool.

Buck

4-Fred
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
JEWS AT OXFORD SILENCE DAVID IRVING;
AT SAN FRANCISCO _CHRONICLE_ DITTO FOR HAL WOMACK (at least
momentarily)
By Hal Womack 3-dan
http://www.myspace.com/halwomack
Today Monday 071126 the monopoly local blatt carried an AP story
(copied below as Appendix B) on Jewish-led hooligans at Oxford
forcibly disrupting a speech by world-famous historian and ex-con
David Irving. I added my comment thereon (Appendix A) to the dozen
existing remarks.
Within 10 minutes some nameless lackey of Publisher Frank Vega and
Editor Phil Bronstein of the San Francisco CHRONICLE erased my post
without a trace whatsoever.
Since these two gentlemen have thus called themselves to my
attention, I now formally charge them before the court of world public
opinion with being co-conspirators in the murders of Iman al-Hams, of
Akaber Zaid, of Rachel Corrie and of more than 3,000,000 other
innocent victims of wanton imperial violence in the last two decades
alone.
Sixty-one years ago this past weekend, on Saturday 23 November 1946,
the U.S.Government under Harry Truman instigated the navy of their
French puppets to bombard the port of Haiphong in northern Vietnam,
killing at least 6,000 civilians there. This was the first major
violation of the Nuremburg Tribunal's revolutionary
ex post facto prohibition of aggressive war which the victors in the
Atomic War aka WW2 had announced only the year before at the Nuremburg
War Crimes Tribunal.
The next landmark war crime of our modern era was the Jews' massacre
of the peaceful Arab village of Deir Yassin
near Jerusalem on Friday April 9th 1948. The Zionists in Israel under
the misleadership of David Ben Gurion --who fifteen years later in
concert with the old arch-Jew Bernard Baruch deviously would
assassinate U.S. President John F. Kennedy-- carried out this attack
in order systematically to terrorize, if the reader will kindly mark
the word here, the lawful native inhabitants of Palestine
into fleeing their ancient homes. Then the invading European Jews
could, did and have ever since slept in houses built by the ancestors
of their victims.
From my post of November 1st: "We learn from Bruce Cumings'
magisterial account in his book
NORTH KOREA: ANOTHER COUNTRY that in 1949 the
U.S. military spooks actually ran cross-border black
ops from the South precisely in order to provoke the
fierce patriot Kim Il-Sung to retaliate against the weak
regime of the despised US & former Japanese puppet
Syngman Rhee. Kim understandably sought to unify
his ancient nation, regardless of the wishes of his big
neighbors in China and the USSR.
But this martial spirit played into the hands of
the Washington warmongers who were desperate for a
pretext to establish the permanent garrison state which
has in the last 6 years metastasized into the GWOT
phase of JAM or the Jewish-American eMpire. Bernard
Baruch and Harry Truman's other oligarchical masters saw military
'Keynesianism' aka War Capitalism as the only alternative they knew to
collapsing into
another Great Depression in their oligarchical system."
A dependable propaganda system for covering up its huge atrocities
and for blackening the reputation of the victims was and still is
absolutely necessary for the U.S. empire's criminal strategy.
The monopoly San Francisco CHRONICLE, now controlled by rich Jews
hiding under the mask of the Hearst Corporation, serves as the local
mouthpiece for this worldwide cabal of murderers, robbers and liars.
The life's blood of the Mayans of Guatemala, of the blacks of Angola &
of Mozambique as well, of course, as that of Arabs & Muslims and other
folk too numerous to list in their entirety in this paragraph, the
life's blood, I say, of millions foully slain the world over stains
the hands of Masters Frank Vega & Phil Bronstein & as well as the
claws of our Jewish misrepresentatives Dianne Feinstein, Barbara Boxer
and Tom Lantos.
Hence their embarrassing haste to censor my remarks, like a cat
scrabbling to cover its shit on a tin roof. The guilty do mortally
fear the truth.
Our living leaders on the Planet Earth are General Vo Nguyen Giap of
Vietnam; President Nelson Mandela of South Africa and his good friend
Bishop Desmond Tutu; Comandante Fidel Castro of Cuba; Presidents Hugo
Chavez of Venezuela, Evo Morales of Bolivia and Rafael Correa of
Ecuador; Alexander Solzhenitsyn of Russia; Robert Faurisson of France;
Dennis Halliday of Ireland;
Hans von Sponeck of Germany; Francis Boyle of Illinois; Paul Craig
Roberts; Sayyed Hassan Nasrollah of Lebanon, John Le Carre, George
Galloway of England; Muhammad Ali; Mel Gibson; Brian De Palma of
Hollywood; John Pilger of England; Michael Collins Piper, James
Petras, Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Rigoberta Menchu of Guatemala and
Alison Weir of Washington D.C.
How can we best help each other to win the human race against the
international Jewish tyranny? How can we establish justice under law
on Earth and constitute the world democracy? How can we bring the
perps to trial?
One helpful undertaking for students of journalism would be to follow
the example of Alison Weir in documenting the criminal JJ or joo-jingo
(my term) slant of the various important propaganda organs.
..................................................
{*Masthead Information
Frank J. Vega - Publisher and President
Phil Bronstein - Executive Vice President and Editor
John Diaz - Editorial Page Editor
http://www.sfgate.com/c/info/copyright/ }
=======================================
David Irving probably the single leading historian on Nazi Germany.
Before his Austrian jail term, often an educational experience, he was
a bit of a whitist. Shame on the spineless Muslim collaborationists of
Oxford, who allowed the Jewish bullies there to lead them by the nose!
The tiny minority of Jews have established their worldwide tyranny
over the rest of our rainbow race by assassination, mass murder,
bribery, deception and leverage. "International Jewish Conspiracy" = a
redundundancy and the CHRONICLE's our local mouthpiece therefor. In
1963 David Ben Gurion and Bernard Baruch were co-captains for the JFK
hit*, just as Aerial Shaboom and Henry Kissinger were for the 9/11/01
made-for-TV stunt. Since the Jewish-American eMpire ("JAM") has
murdered millions in the last two decades alone, they are highly
allergic to free speech about their crimes. For the heirs of Genrikh
Jagoda (KGB, Ukraine, 1931) to cry "fascist": ludricrous in the
extreme. *FINAL JUDGMENT by Michael C. Piper.}
Posted 11/26/2007 2:52:02 PM}
ohsigh, if halwomack's comment and apparent support for someone like
Irving indicate anything it is that the student's tactics were
appropriate.
Posted 11/26/2007 3:05:52 PM
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{Protests Disrupt Oxford Forum
By MATT DUNHAM, Associated Press Writer
Monday, November 26, 2007
(11-26) 13:09 PST OXFORD, England (AP) --
Demonstrators broke into the venerable Oxford Union debating society
Monday night, sitting on the head table to disrupt a forum featuring a
historian who denies the Holocaust and a far-right politician.
At least 200 protesters chanted anti-fascist slogans and waved
placards opposing the appearance of historian David Irving and British
National Party leader Nick Griffin.
The two men were bundled into the hall hours before the forum was to
begin as protesters yelled "Keep Oxford fascist-free! We will defend
democracy!" at the noisy gathering.
Just minutes before the debate was to start, a group of protesters
broke through the security cordon thrown up around the Union and
pushed their way into the hall, where they staged a sit-down protest.
The start of the debate was delayed and it was not immediately clear
whether or when it would proceed.
Irving served 13 months in prison in Austria after his 2006 conviction
on charges stemming from 1989 speeches in which he was accused of
denying the Nazis exterminated 6 million Jews. He arrived at the forum
carrying a ball and chain.
Several student groups, including the Oxford Student Union and the
university's Jewish and Muslim societies, had teamed up with activist
group Unite Against Fascism to organize the protest.
"It's our way of showing that we all stand together ... opposed to
racism, opposed to hate," said Steven Altmann Richer, the co-president
of the Oxford University Jewish Society. "Obviously we think the issue
of free speech is very important, but it's very irresponsible to use
the union's prestigious platform to lend legitimacy to the views of
people like Nick Griffin and David Irving."
Union members voted Friday to allow the men to speak, despite calls to
revoke the invitations. The union's president, Luke Tryl, has said he
invited the men to talk about the limits of free speech, not to
expound on their views.
The Oxford Union debating society, while independent of Oxford
University, is composed mainly of university students.
"The reason the Oxford Union was founded 184 years ago was to promote
and defend freedom of speech. This is what this debate is about," Tryl
told Sky News on Sunday. "It is about an opportunity to challenge
David Irving and Nick Griffin."
Irving has refused to use the term Holocaust, calling it a concept
that "became cleverly marketed."
Griffin runs a party that campaigns on a fiercely anti-immigration and
anti-Muslim platform.
Conservative lawmaker Julian Lewis, who addressed the Union last week
in a debate on terrorism, said the students should be ashamed of
themselves. In a letter to the Union's officers and standing
committee, Lewis said he was resigning his life membership "with great
sadness."
"Nothing which happens in Monday's debate can possibly offset the
boost you are giving to a couple of scoundrels who can put up with
anything except being ignored," he wrote.
Last week, several lawmakers, including British Defense Secretary Des
Browne, canceled speaking engagements at the Union because they said
they found it inappropriate to speak in the same place.
But Liberal Democrat lawmaker Evan Harris, who is billed to speak at
the event, said banning Griffin and Irving would risk turning "bigots
into martyrs."
"It is the views of these extremists which are a disgrace, not their
right to hold their views," he said.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/11/26/international/i130907S99.DTL
*}
* OR http://tinyurl.com/39qmtc
=============================
"I salute the venerable Prime Minister of Malaysia Mahathir
Mohamad for his recent plain speaking on the truly tortured nature of
contemporary world power. Perhaps, however, we should improve the
translation of his remarks by saying that the Jews tyrannize over and
against the 99.9% of normal humanity. To call it 'ruling' constitutes
a false compliment to the ancient malefactors of great stealth.
Bush, Clinton, Sharon and their accomplices deserve to hang for
their crimes against humanity. In order to bring about this just
result, the rest of us must learn to penetrate veils of deception and
expose hypocritical intrigues."
"Hans-Christof Graf von Sponeck is a former Assistant Secretary-
General of the United Nations & chief of their humanitarian relief
office in Baghdad during the Clinton blockade. In a public talk in
Berkeley in March of last year, Mr. von Sponeck estimated the total
number of Iraqi civilians deliberately murdered by the U.S.Government
since 1990 at around 2,000,000 [two million] and affirmed that the
justice-minded people of Earth have the duty to arrest and put to
trial on war crimes charges the officials guilty of this colossal
conspiracy."
====================================
Abir Aramin, age 9, murdered by the Jews
http://tinyurl.com/2l6ogh
http://tinyurl.com/3amvos
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
http://youtu.be/_h3P7POHnJc
...............................................................
Here's the link to what I wrote on the eve of SonnaBush's (fronting
http://tinyurl.com/2xcvdo
(The tag end of the piece was stuck on rather roughly by the HANDSTAND
editor & could profit from a bit of pruning.)
If any reader can find another article from that critical moment which
has better stood the test of time, will she please be so kind as to
tell me about it?
...........................................................................
For Susan Abulhawa's new novel of Palestine, SCAR OF DAVID (2006)
http://www.scarofdavid.com/blog/index.php?page_id=5
OR
http://tinyurl.com/2n77bo
...................................................................
http://www.americanfreepress.net/
FINAL JUDGMENT by Michael Collins Piper, first published in 1994 and
now in its 6th edition, lays out the Jewish background to the JFK hit
M&W).
(See the AFP site above also for the moving letter of 29 November 2006
from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad,
President of the Islamic Republic of Iran, directly addressed to
"Noble Americans" --maybe your local jewspaper forgot to pass it along
to you?)
.....................................................................
1. http://www.aipac.org/
3. http://www.jinsa.org/home/home.html
4. http://www.adl.org/
5. http://www.hasbara.co.il/
1. http://www.ostrovskyfineart.com/index.htm
2. http://www.nkusa.org/index.cfm
3. http://www.israelshamir.net/
4. http://tinyurl.com/3c9jm8 OR
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/18/136217
........................................................
All rise,
http://youtu.be/QRvVzaQ6i8A
http://www.counterpunch.org/dolby04032007.html
This clip was the first time I ever saw Marvin Gaye perform. The word
in my mind = "composure".
..........................................................................
A) Iron Maiden The Trooper By Gauchos
http://youtu.be/s_4aGXTHo7w
B) The Impeach Bush Club Parade
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4606006427048738351
...............................................................
http://www.nogw.com/images/inminds.jpg
http://www.ussliberty.org/
http://www.aztlan.net/women_martyrs.htm
http://www.jewwatch.com/
http://margaritaville.com/
http://www.hizbollah.org/
http://tinyurl.com/2r3stp
http://peyote.com/gardening-pictures/peyote.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/3dlhhb
http://www.currentissues.tv/
http://www.waco93.com/
("Nadine Eats Pizza in Ramallah")
http://www.israelshamir.net/Contributors/Contributor47.htm
http://www.palestine-info.cc/uploads/akaber.jpg
http://www.counterpunch.org/levy03272006.html
http://vcnv.org/
http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=1
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=491
http://www.americanempireproject.com/index.asp
http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesD/dbaby4.jpg
http://www.nelsonmandela.org/
http://www.parnasse.com/gaia.jpg
http://www.sf911truth.org/
http://www.documentaryphotographs.com/
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
http://www.aztlan.net/
http://www.valleyofthewolvesiraq.com/high/main.html
http://www.johnkaminski.com/
http://electronicintifada.net/new.shtml
http://dahrjamailiraq.com/index.php
http://antiwar.com/
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/index.htm
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/
http://www.infowars.com/
http://english.wafa.ps/default.asp
http://www.araboo.com/site/arab-aaug-asq-9777
http://www.al-awda.org/
http://www.imemc.org/
http://www.vcnv.org/
http://www.ziopedia.org/content/view/3301/58/
http://antiwar.com/
http://www.cnionline.org/
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=
http://www.honestmediatoday.com/index.htm
http://prorev.com/indexa.htm
http://www.thankyoult.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
http://www.deiryassin.org/index1.html
http://www.marwenmedia.com/index.html
http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
http://www.thehandstand.org/
http://www.malaysiasun.com/
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/
http://tinyurl.com/79t3d
http://tinyurl.com/yt4tym ("Let It Be!")
http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,150 for "free your mind, the rest will
follow".
Hal Womack 3-dan
2007-11-27 03:07:11 UTC
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Fabe Boxman, Brill Fonstein and Fianne Deinstein
all three pooled their witz to come up with "Bux"
responsito to my post.

This gives me the chance briefly to recall our banquet for David
Irving here in San Francisco about 6 years ago at the Schroeder's
famous German restaurant in the financial district. The _echt
deutscher_ waiter kept bringing me steins bigger than my head full of
Spaten Optimator, so I got rather merry. Nazi newsreels were showing
on the drop-down screen and every once in a while I found something to
laugh at.

At several moments during his talk Mr.Irving looked at me reprovingly
and threatened to have me expelled from the gathering if I continued
to jolly up things. Each time
I would show due deference to our esteemed guest, winning a reprieve,
thus managing to stay to the end.

Jah, this be one scary Planet. All honest folk are at risk from the
monsters who have already murdered so many. Beasties for whom "Buck"
squeaks. Byemebye
we shall lay them low and build a better world for ourselves and our
children.

====================
Post by "Buck" @Cowtown.net>
You are a pathetic, frightened fool.
Said the nameless mercenary joosh hack
to the honest man.

See the works of the late Israel Shahak for
details of Bux dementia.
Post by "Buck" @Cowtown.net>
Buck
4-Fred
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
JEWS AT OXFORD SILENCE DAVID IRVING;
AT SAN FRANCISCO _CHRONICLE_ DITTO FOR HAL WOMACK (at least
momentarily)
By Hal Womack 3-dan
http://www.myspace.com/halwomack
Today Monday 071126 the monopoly local blatt carried an AP story
(copied below as Appendix B) on Jewish-led hooligans at Oxford
forcibly disrupting a speech by world-famous historian and ex-con
David Irving. I added my comment thereon (Appendix A) to the dozen
existing remarks.
Within 10 minutes some nameless lackey of Publisher Frank Vega and
Editor Phil Bronstein of the San Francisco CHRONICLE erased my post
without a trace whatsoever.
Since these two gentlemen have thus called themselves to my
attention, I now formally charge them before the court of world public
opinion with being co-conspirators in the murders of Iman al-Hams, of
Akaber Zaid, of Rachel Corrie and of more than 3,000,000 other
innocent victims of wanton imperial violence in the last two decades
alone.
Sixty-one years ago this past weekend, on Saturday 23 November 1946,
the U.S.Government under Harry Truman instigated the navy of their
French puppets to bombard the port of Haiphong in northern Vietnam,
killing at least 6,000 civilians there. This was the first major
violation of the Nuremburg Tribunal's revolutionary
ex post facto prohibition of aggressive war which the victors in the
Atomic War aka WW2 had announced only the year before at the Nuremburg
War Crimes Tribunal.
The next landmark war crime of our modern era was the Jews' massacre
of the peaceful Arab village of Deir Yassin
near Jerusalem on Friday April 9th 1948. The Zionists in Israel under
the misleadership of David Ben Gurion --who fifteen years later in
concert with the old arch-Jew Bernard Baruch deviously would
assassinate U.S. President John F. Kennedy-- carried out this attack
in order systematically to terrorize, if the reader will kindly mark
the word here, the lawful native inhabitants of Palestine
into fleeing their ancient homes. Then the invading European Jews
could, did and have ever since slept in houses built by the ancestors
of their victims.
From my post of November 1st: "We learn from Bruce Cumings'
magisterial account in his book
NORTH KOREA: ANOTHER COUNTRY that in 1949 the
U.S. military spooks actually ran cross-border black
ops from the South precisely in order to provoke the
fierce patriot Kim Il-Sung to retaliate against the weak
regime of the despised US & former Japanese puppet
Syngman Rhee. Kim understandably sought to unify
his ancient nation, regardless of the wishes of his big
neighbors in China and the USSR.
But this martial spirit played into the hands of
the Washington warmongers who were desperate for a
pretext to establish the permanent garrison state which
has in the last 6 years metastasized into the GWOT
phase of JAM or the Jewish-American eMpire. Bernard
Baruch and Harry Truman's other oligarchical masters saw military
'Keynesianism' aka War Capitalism as the only alternative they knew to
collapsing into
another Great Depression in their oligarchical system."
A dependable propaganda system for covering up its huge atrocities
and for blackening the reputation of the victims was and still is
absolutely necessary for the U.S. empire's criminal strategy.
The monopoly San Francisco CHRONICLE, now controlled by rich Jews
hiding under the mask of the Hearst Corporation, serves as the local
mouthpiece for this worldwide cabal of murderers, robbers and liars.
The life's blood of the Mayans of Guatemala, of the blacks of Angola &
of Mozambique as well, of course, as that of Arabs & Muslims and other
folk too numerous to list in their entirety in this paragraph, the
life's blood, I say, of millions foully slain the world over stains
the hands of Masters Frank Vega & Phil Bronstein & as well as the
claws of our Jewish misrepresentatives Dianne Feinstein, Barbara Boxer
and Tom Lantos.
Hence their embarrassing haste to censor my remarks, like a cat
scrabbling to cover its shit on a tin roof. The guilty do mortally
fear the truth.
Our living leaders on the Planet Earth are General Vo Nguyen Giap of
Vietnam; President Nelson Mandela of South Africa and his good friend
Bishop Desmond Tutu; Comandante Fidel Castro of Cuba; Presidents Hugo
Chavez of Venezuela, Evo Morales of Bolivia and Rafael Correa of
Ecuador; Alexander Solzhenitsyn of Russia; Robert Faurisson of France;
Dennis Halliday of Ireland;
Hans von Sponeck of Germany; Francis Boyle of Illinois; Paul Craig
Roberts; Sayyed Hassan Nasrollah of Lebanon, John Le Carre, George
Galloway of England; Muhammad Ali; Mel Gibson; Brian De Palma of
Hollywood; John Pilger of England; Michael Collins Piper, James
Petras, Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Rigoberta Menchu of Guatemala and
Alison Weir of Washington D.C.
How can we best help each other to win the human race against the
international Jewish tyranny? How can we establish justice under law
on Earth and constitute the world democracy? How can we bring the
perps to trial?
One helpful undertaking for students of journalism would be to follow
the example of Alison Weir in documenting the criminal JJ or joo-jingo
(my term) slant of the various important propaganda organs.
..................................................
{*Masthead Information
Frank J. Vega - Publisher and President
Phil Bronstein - Executive Vice President and Editor
John Diaz - Editorial Page Editor
http://www.sfgate.com/c/info/copyright/}
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David Irving probably the single leading historian on Nazi Germany.
Before his Austrian jail term, often an educational experience, he was
a bit of a whitist. Shame on the spineless Muslim collaborationists of
Oxford, who allowed the Jewish bullies there to lead them by the nose!
The tiny minority of Jews have established their worldwide tyranny
over the rest of our rainbow race by assassination, mass murder,
bribery, deception and leverage. "International Jewish Conspiracy" = a
redundundancy and the CHRONICLE's our local mouthpiece therefor. In
1963 David Ben Gurion and Bernard Baruch were co-captains for the JFK
hit*, just as Aerial Shaboom and Henry Kissinger were for the 9/11/01
made-for-TV stunt. Since the Jewish-American eMpire ("JAM") has
murdered millions in the last two decades alone, they are highly
allergic to free speech about their crimes. For the heirs of Genrikh
Jagoda (KGB, Ukraine, 1931) to cry "fascist": ludricrous in the
extreme. *FINAL JUDGMENT by Michael C. Piper.}
Posted 11/26/2007 2:52:02 PM}
ohsigh, if halwomack's comment and apparent support for someone like
Irving indicate anything it is that the student's tactics were
appropriate.
Posted 11/26/2007 3:05:52 PM
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{Protests Disrupt Oxford Forum
By MATT DUNHAM, Associated Press Writer
Monday, November 26, 2007
(11-26) 13:09 PST OXFORD, England (AP) --
Demonstrators broke into the venerable Oxford Union debating society
Monday night, sitting on the head table to disrupt a forum featuring a
historian who denies the Holocaust and a far-right politician.
At least 200 protesters chanted anti-fascist slogans and waved
placards opposing the appearance of historian David Irving and British
National Party leader Nick Griffin.
The two men were bundled into the hall hours before the forum was to
begin as protesters yelled "Keep Oxford fascist-free! We will defend
democracy!" at the noisy gathering.
Just minutes before the debate was to start, a group of protesters
broke through the security cordon thrown up around the Union and
pushed their way into the hall, where they staged a sit-down protest.
The start of the debate was delayed and it was not immediately clear
whether or when it would proceed.
Irving served 13 months in prison in Austria after his 2006 conviction
on charges stemming from 1989 speeches in which he was accused of
denying the Nazis exterminated 6 million Jews. He arrived at the forum
carrying a ball and chain.
Several student groups, including the Oxford Student Union and the
university's Jewish and Muslim societies, had teamed up with activist
group Unite Against Fascism to organize the protest.
"It's our way of showing that we all stand together ... opposed to
racism, opposed to hate," said Steven Altmann Richer, the co-president
of the Oxford University Jewish Society. "Obviously we think the issue
of free speech is very important, but it's very irresponsible to use
the union's prestigious platform to lend legitimacy to the views of
people like Nick Griffin and David Irving."
Union members voted Friday to allow the men to speak, despite calls to
revoke the invitations. The union's president, Luke Tryl, has said he
invited the men to talk about the limits of free speech, not to
expound on their views.
The Oxford Union debating society, while independent of Oxford
University, is
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h***@gmail.com
2007-11-27 07:01:25 UTC
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Post by "Buck" @Cowtown.net>
You are a pathetic, frightened fool.
Buck
For once, we agree on something! :)

I won't thank him for playing, either.

-"JooJingo" M. Scott
Hal Womack 3-dan
2007-11-27 08:37:52 UTC
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Rebuttal #2:

In my originating post I raised a number of major historical points
concerning war crimes by JAM against many peoples and, in fact,
threatening our whole human race.

According to the well-known principle "Quis tacit consentiit" or "Who
keeps silent, agrees" these two nameless hecklers admit the truth
of all of my charges, including those against San Francisco's most
toxic dump, namely the CHRONICLE and its JJ masters.

Being completely bereft of both arguments and facts and motivated
only by mercenary spite, these two ghosts merely howl out their
spittle against me.
As often noted previously, curses from such wicked nonentities bring
to the righteous kisses from the Earth Goddess.

This's "Jose Scott" who forgot to use its name?

It and Buck are by inference trying to puff up themselves as
admirable, brave wisemen? 'Tis to make the cat laugh.

Which particular Jewish murder do these two bottsdots and their
wannabe hero Phil Bronstein most admire? Say of the choices between
Abraham Lincoln, Huey Long, Count Folke Bernadotte, John & Robert F.
Kennedy, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, the 34 sailors of the USS
LIBERTY, Akaber Zaid, Bushra Bargis, Princess Diana and Rachel Corrie?
Among millions of others, of course. Speaking of worms gnawing through
corpses.

I named above 25 of my favorite living people. Experience shows
clearly by contrast that Usenet zombies like the two present on this
thread of mine
are too cagey to tell us the audience whom they themselves like. They
well know that, given their own loathsome images, any recipients of
their praise would be only irritated by the burdensome association.

Vapid & nasty as our two guests indeed are, they still fairly
represent the Regime for which they front. Typical clones of Clinton &
Bush.
We Americans definitely have a stuck toilet.

"As a baptized Roman Catholic altar boy ("one of the lucky ones", as
Copie sez), I gotta wonder if Father Harry will have an insiping :60
piece on it all...;)"
Wed, 18 Jul 2007 by "hxjx"

Most altar boys are baptized. My given name's "Harry". " insiping"s
almost a spoonerism. Jose, if such indeed be the true name for
hx, appears to be one of the numerous Catholic perverts serving their
criminal Jewish masters. Other, more prominent, names in this debased
category include William F. Buckley, Alexander Haig, Pope Ratzo and
Vince Flynn.

===========================
Post by h***@gmail.com
Post by "Buck" @Cowtown.net>
You are a pathetic, frightened fool.
Buck
For once, we agree on something! :)
I won't thank him for playing, either.
-"JooJingo" M. Scott
h***@gmail.com
2007-11-29 11:28:27 UTC
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On Nov 27, 12:37 am, "Hal Womack 3-dan/KKKrazy-as-a-bedbug", noted
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
In my originating post I raised a number of major historical points
Couldn't make it through the torrents of racism/spam/etc. "HAL"

Have you met Ras Mikael Enoch?? I think you'd be a good match, if
you're not already! ;)

Better you should raise your I.Q., O Lofty User of Latin Phrases.
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
concerning war crimes by JAM against many peoples and, in fact,
threatening our whole human race.
"JAM" Justified Ancients of MuMu, or is this more of yer "Protocols of
Zion" cac"?

Oh, like anti-Semetic bus drivers who shoot unarmed Black teenagers???
Or whatever despots you worship?
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
This's "Jose Scott" who forgot to use its name?
Sorry, I'm not a karate master like yourself, "3-dan". ;) Guess
you're not too keen on us Spanish-speakers either,eh?
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
We Americans definitely have a stuck toilet.
The human excrement like you keeps backing it up, "Whitey".

You should just apply for a TV show on Ch 29, and save some bandwith.
Tommy
2007-11-27 09:52:26 UTC
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pardon?
Hal Womack 3-dan
2007-11-27 19:31:56 UTC
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Scooter?
Post by Tommy
pardon?
Steve Sinai
2007-11-30 04:51:28 UTC
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Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
David Irving probably the single leading historian on Nazi Germany.
I thought Ahmadinejad was the leading historian on Nazi Germany.
Bill Z.
2007-11-30 05:26:33 UTC
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Post by Steve Sinai
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
David Irving probably the single leading historian on Nazi Germany.
I thought Ahmadinejad was the leading historian on Nazi Germany.
Ahmadinejad is simply trying to follow in the footsteps of the
illustrious Willie Brown, former mayor of San Francisco and former
Speaker of the California State Assembly, who would say anything and
often did. When asked if had really made some outrageous wisecrack,
Willie once replied, "How should I know?" Willie was always making
wisecracks off the cuff, so he could get away with just about anything
as it was expected of him. After visiting the White House during the
Clinton administration and spending the night there, Willie quipped,
"I had a choice of spending the night in the Queen's Bedroom or the
Lincoln Bedroom, so I went with the guy who freed me rather than the
voters who elected me."

Willie Brown could get away with saying just about anything because
everyone knew he was joking. Unfortunately for Ahmadinejad, he lacks
Willie Brown's charm, so it doesn't really work for him. He's trying,
but he's only got the "outrageous" part down.
Hal Womack 3-dan
2007-12-04 09:51:58 UTC
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Nameless "Stevie"s almost right: President Mahmood Ahmadinejad's the
world's leading gracious host for historians of modern Europe.

Nameless "Billie" displays its provincial Jewish sense of conventional
behavior, to wit, a discreet enthusiasm for the utterly routine
Israeli murders
of children and old people combined with a criminal stuffiness that
gets offended when normal aka "gentile" people say that the Outlaw
State deserves to perish miserably.

AFAIK Ahmadinejad's biggest mistake to date was
endorsing Bush's ritual murder of Saddam Hussein.
Also, I must say that the Iranian's fondness for religious language
constitutes a weakness in view of current circumstances; far better =
a Sino-Roman dispassionate legal POV based on a post-Nuremburg
perspective. Islam & Christianity both quite bankrupt, spiritually
speaking.

=========================
Post by Bill Z.
Post by Steve Sinai
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
David Irving probably the single leading historian on Nazi Germany.
I thought Ahmadinejad was the leading historian on Nazi Germany.
Ahmadinejad is simply trying to follow in the footsteps of the
illustrious Willie Brown, former mayor of San Francisco and former
Speaker of the California State Assembly, who would say anything and
often did. When asked if had really made some outrageous wisecrack,
Willie once replied, "How should I know?" Willie was always making
wisecracks off the cuff, so he could get away with just about anything
as it was expected of him. After visiting the White House during the
Clinton administration and spending the night there, Willie quipped,
"I had a choice of spending the night in the Queen's Bedroom or the
Lincoln Bedroom, so I went with the guy who freed me rather than the
voters who elected me."
Willie Brown could get away with saying just about anything because
everyone knew he was joking. Unfortunately for Ahmadinejad, he lacks
Willie Brown's charm, so it doesn't really work for him. He's trying,
but he's only got the "outrageous" part down.
m***@googlemail.com
2007-12-04 09:59:45 UTC
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Middle Eastern immigrants need to learn to respect western values of
free speech.
Hal Womack 3-dan
2007-12-04 10:18:49 UTC
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Dr.Martin Luther King, Jr used frequently to remark on the cowardly
silence of his supposed friends in the face of official wickedness.
Then the Jewish secret police shot him down and brother Bobby too.
Authors Michael Collins Piper and William Pepper provide the
documentation for this case.

All the follow-ups so far have tacitly accepted the announced fact of
the DC-Tel Aviv Regime (or JAR for Jewish-American R)
having murdered some 3,000,000 Iraqis since 1990.

Although Moloch munches on, the beast begins to wobble.

Only the devil knows what nameless "maiden" was trying to say but here
below's a fresh news-story forwarded by a friend on the topic of the
absence of "free speech" in the "West" (formerly known as
Christendom). Now one is "free" to say only whatever lies the Jews
want to hear this week.

===============================

Author Jailed for Holocaust Denial

By WILLIAM J. KOLE, Associated Press Writer

Monday, December 3, 2007

(12-03) 11:56 PST VIENNA, Austria (AP) --

A right-wing Austrian writer who fled to Spain after being convicted
on
Holocaust denial charges 15 years ago must serve his 18-month
sentence,
Vienna's highest court said Monday.

Gerd Honsik, 67, must serve out the sentence handed down in 1992, the
court said, rejecting his plea for leniency because of his age and a
kidney ailment. However, the court also turned down a prosecution
request to make the former fugitive serve even more time.

Vienna's public prosecutor's office said Honsik still faced possible
charges for alleged neo-Nazi activities carried out during his exile
in
Spain, which could boost his time behind bars.

Investigators said a decision on whether to charge Honsik for articles
he published in print and online in Spain could come later this month.

Honsik was captured in southern Spain in August and extradited in
October. He fled after being convicted of denying the existence of the
Holocaust and claiming the Nazis never used gas chambers -- grounds for
criminal prosecution in Austria.

The charges stemmed from writings that defended Adolf Hitler's Third
Reich. Between 1986 and 1989, Honsik published writings disputing that
the Nazis killed 6 million Jews during World War II. Among his books
is
one titled "Acquittal for Hitler?"

Austria's law making it a crime to deny the Holocaust or promote Nazi
propaganda applies to "whoever denies, grossly plays down, approves or
tries to excuse the National Socialist genocide or other National
Socialist crimes against humanity in a print publication, in broadcast
or other media."

The crime is punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

British author David Irving was convicted under the law in February
2006
and sentenced to three years in prison. He served 13 months and was
released in December 2006 on probation.

=====================
Post by m***@googlemail.com
Middle Eastern immigrants need to learn to respect western values of
free speech.
p***@yahoo.com
2007-12-04 10:23:53 UTC
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Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Dr.Martin Luther King, Jr used frequently to remark on the cowardly
silence of his supposed friends in the face of official wickedness.
Then the Jewish secret police shot him down and brother Bobby too.
Why is is that so many anti-semites are so clearly mentally ill, I
wonder?
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Authors Michael Collins Piper and William Pepper provide the
documentation for this case.
All the follow-ups so far have tacitly accepted the announced fact of
the DC-Tel Aviv Regime (or JAR for Jewish-American R)
having murdered some 3,000,000 Iraqis since 1990.
Although Moloch munches on, the beast begins to wobble.
Only the devil knows what nameless "maiden" was trying to say but here
below's a fresh news-story forwarded by a friend on the topic of the
absence of "free speech" in the "West" (formerly known as
Christendom). Now one is "free" to say only whatever lies the Jews
want to hear this week.
===============================
Author Jailed for Holocaust Denial
By WILLIAM J. KOLE, Associated Press Writer
Monday, December 3, 2007
(12-03) 11:56 PST VIENNA, Austria (AP) --
A right-wing Austrian writer who fled to Spain after being convicted
on
Holocaust denial charges 15 years ago must serve his 18-month
sentence,
Vienna's highest court said Monday.
Gerd Honsik, 67, must serve out the sentence handed down in 1992, the
court said, rejecting his plea for leniency because of his age and a
kidney ailment. However, the court also turned down a prosecution
request to make the former fugitive serve even more time.
Vienna's public prosecutor's office said Honsik still faced possible
charges for alleged neo-Nazi activities carried out during his exile
in
Spain, which could boost his time behind bars.
Investigators said a decision on whether to charge Honsik for articles
he published in print and online in Spain could come later this month.
Honsik was captured in southern Spain in August and extradited in
October. He fled after being convicted of denying the existence of the
Holocaust and claiming the Nazis never used gas chambers -- grounds for
criminal prosecution in Austria.
The charges stemmed from writings that defended Adolf Hitler's Third
Reich. Between 1986 and 1989, Honsik published writings disputing that
the Nazis killed 6 million Jews during World War II. Among his books
is
one titled "Acquittal for Hitler?"
Austria's law making it a crime to deny the Holocaust or promote Nazi
propaganda applies to "whoever denies, grossly plays down, approves or
tries to excuse the National Socialist genocide or other National
Socialist crimes against humanity in a print publication, in broadcast
or other media."
The crime is punishable by up to 10 years in prison.
British author David Irving was convicted under the law in February
2006
Irving, rather foolishly, announced publicly he was going to enter
Austria, despite being persona non grata there. What else could the
authorities have done? Even his wife admits he was asking for it...
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and sentenced to three years in prison. He served 13 months and was
released in December 2006 on probation.
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While drafting a reply to the nameless hired Hebrew hack "parri", I
happened to google the phrase "justice is on our side", which in turn
led me to the essay below by Ms. Hujayra al 'Arabi . Readers in tune
with the mind & spirit of our Living Planet will see that the voice of
the brave Palestinian woman compares to those of "parri", Billary,
Feinstein et al as does a tornado to so many particles of pigshit. We
shall prevail.

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http://tinyurl.com/8kjpk OR

http://www.freearabvoice.org/articles/ConfessionsOfAHumanBombFromPalestine.htm

Dear Readers of the Free Arab Voice,

We are proud to present to you a penetrating piece that goes into the
personal and political makings of a human bomb. Hujayra al 'Arabi
portrays the role a human bomb in the offing to deliver a simple, yet
very eloquent, message. She makes no apologies for the state of mind
our people have been driven into. Rather, she seeks to drive the
point home by avoiding the third person. It's is I, the human bomb
herself, who speaks to you now... Thus began Hujayra..

The Free Arab Voice

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{To all our Martyrs, past, present and future:
Your Light cannot be extinguished

Confessions of a human bomb from Palestine
by Hujayra al 'Arabi
Dedicated to my brothers and sisters in Resistance in Iraq and in the
Arab Nation

I do not want to die. I am not in love with death. I am not even
'half in love with easeful death' like the English poet. I want to
live. I want to have a home filled with children, and I still want to
be a doctor. From the age of about six, I dreamed of becoming a
doctor, of being able to save lives. I wanted to do something real
that would save the lives of my people.

And yet, I see now that there are many ways of saving lives and that
taking lives can be a part of the process of saving lives. That is
where I am now, preparing to take lives in order to save my people.

The enemy tries to say that human bombs are cowards, that we want to
die, that we do this in order to go to a paradise where virgins will
fulfill our every wish. Well, for a start, I can prove them wrong on
the virgin issue. I am a woman, and I have no interest whatsoever in
being pleasured by other virgins, thank you very much. The fact of
the matter is that this is nothing more than stupid propaganda, like
so many of the enemy's lies. The young men who become martyrs for
our cause are not doing so in order to win virgins in the
hereafter. Nor do we do this out of hatred for the enemy, although
the hatred is a thousand times deserved. We do it for love of the
homeland and for love of our people.

The Prophet Isa, Peace be upon him, said that there is no greater love
than the love of a shepherd who is willing to lay down his life for
his sheep. I agree that this is a very great act of love, and this is
the act of love committed by every human bomb. We give our lives for
our people, for our future, to try to turn a tide of destruction that
threatens to sweep away not only our identity and heritage, but our
very future. Sometimes engineers will use a bomb to attempt to change
the course of a waterway. That is what the human bomb is doing, using
a bomb to try to change the course of a terrible flood that day by day
continues to sweep away our homes, our families and our hopes for any
future. If we can make any impression at all upon this flood, if
little by little, we can slow down its progress, force it into a
different path and ultimately stop its flow completely, then we will
have succeeded in a very great act of love.

One human bomb may be no more than a voice crying in the wilderness,
but many human bombs can change the course of history, strip it of a
hundred years of lies and deceit and bring the vision of a future back
to Palestine.

Those who listen to the enemy propaganda should ask themselves one
question: what does it take to make an ordinary boy or girl into a
human bomb? In a different life, in ordinary circumstances, all of us
could have been quite ordinary boys and girls. Do not mistake the
human bomb for anything other than an ordinary human being forced by
circumstance to act in an extraordinary fashion.

It is not easy to become a human bomb. When there is a choice between
the high road and the low road, most will opt for the easier of the
two. It is often easier for human nature to make excuses for betrayal
and collaboration with the enemy than to face reality and know that
integrity often requires the ultimate sacrifice.

It is a sad fact that the Zionists continue to be successful in
hunting down the leaders of our resistance only because they are
betrayed by our own people, by people whose vision is limited to the
immediate situation or threat that confronts them. Even though some
collaborators may be no more than people who fear for the safety of
their families, or who are desperate for food and a safe shelter,
collaboration is the ugliest and most despicable crime against our
people. To aid the enemy, whether out of fear or greed is to BECOME
the enemy. Furthermore, collaborators and those who do nothing
whatsoever, trying to maintain a low profile in order to remain
'safe', must realise that there is no safe shelter as long as the
enemy triumphs in our land. I will say it again: the crime of trading
the life of your brother or sister for your own illusive safety is one
of the worst, whatever its motivation. The man or woman who betrays
a freedom fighter for gold or to save his or her skin deserves the
punishment of death, for he or she has more power to harm our cause
than our avowed enemy.

Cowards and collaborators must learn that it is far better to take the
high road and meet death on our own terms than to cower in the shadows
until the enemy drags us out to to the slaughter. The result, in
physical terms, is the same, but how different the result in its
effects upon others and upon the future!

My fiance used to quote an old Roman saying: 'Media tutissimus ibis',
which means that the middle way is best.
He believed it as well and lived according to that belief. He saw
good in all people and wanted to believe that, at the end of the day,
NO MATTER WHAT, good would have to triumph against evil. He was
willing to wait patiently for that day. In that sense, he embodied
the old myth of 'oriental fatalism' which the Westerners loved to
pretend gave them carte blanche to tear down cultures and
civilisations throughout the world and superimpose their visions of
glory upon the fabric of the universe.

Well, my dear Muhammad, you waited patiently as Zionist metal entered
your eye and lung and leg. You waited patiently for the time when you
would be allowed through the chequepoint to hospital... a time that
did not come, while the wounds festered and finally rotted your flesh
with gangrene. Your death was anything but clean. It was a death
that is sadly typical of those who allow themselves to become the
victims of oppressors.

Patience may be a virtue, but it has to be patience coupled with
determination to win this war. Without that determination, we will
cease to exist. It is as simple as that. We can wait patiently while
they pick us off one by one, or we can go out to meet them.

I choose to go out to meet them. That is what being a human bomb is
about. It is the last resort of those who have exhausted all other
avenues. Justice is on our side. The law is on our side. Why then
are we victims still? The fact is that the world has not listened to
the voice of justice, nor to the voice of international law. It has
not listened to the voice of compassion nor to any pleas for
humanity. So finally we come to the voice that cannot be ignored:
the voice of Immediate Death. The human bomb targets both the lives
and the pocketbook of the enemy. The enemy has proven that it will
remain deaf to us unless we threaten loss of their lives and loss of
their profits.

I do not volunteer for this action to avenge my Muhammad. I do not do
this to avenge any of our people who have suffered or died at the
hands of the enemy. I do not do this for myself either. As I
write this, I can see a letter written by my aunt in England, offering
me a home and financial support for a chance to study medicine
there. Unlike too many of my Palestinian brothers and sisters, my
life is not restricted to the walls of the refugee camp. I have other
options. In a way, it is precisely because I do have other options
that I feel that my voice will be more emphatic when it explodes in
the midst of the enemy. They cannot pretend that I have no reasons to
live. They have not cornered me personally, but they have cornered us
as a people and that is what counts at the end of the day.

Shall I go to England, to pursue my dream of saving the lives of some
of our people, or should I stay here and pursue the reality of saving
our future as a people? Being a Palestinian doctor is doing
patchwork, darning and mending the rags of our existence over and over
until, like all rags, they finally disintegrate and are thrown out
onto the dustheap.

Our people must come to understand that the life of ANY individual
must be subordinate to the cause of freedom from this Occupation. The
value of any individual is not what is at issue; it is rather the
value of our future as a people that must be supreme, overriding all
other considerations in all of our hearts. What good is it to
Palestine if any one of us prospers or survives if our people as a
whole cease to exist? What good is the illusive freedom of one
individual when the Palestinian people exist in conditions that are
far worse than slavery? Unless we can act selflessly, for the good of
the cause rather than pursuing individual goals and ambitions, our
cause will fail.

The human bomb provides an example of that selflessness,
demonstrating unequivocally that no life can be considered more
valuable than the future of our people. The human bomb acts for all,
not for himself or herself. 'Use me as a weapon of your will,' the
human bomb declares. 'Let my life be sacrificed for the future of all
our people.' This is emphatically not the act of some one committing
suicide! Suicide is a selfish act, the act of some one who repudiates
life and embraces death as a solution. The human bomb does not
repudiate life at all. The human bomb embraces death as a comrade in
arms, acting as a weapon for the cause of justice and freedom from
Occupation.

Do I believe in the Hereafter? I honestly do not know what lies
beyond this existence, because I am nothing more than a human being,
whose understanding is limited to our life on this earth. I would
like to believe. I do believe in God, and I believe that 'Inna
lillahi wa inna illahi rajaoun' that we come from God and to God is
our return, but as God is unknowable and unfathomable, so is His Will
and any reality beyond this world is beyond my sight. As far as I am
concerned, what counts most is what I do here and now. I want to
perform the right action for the right reason, with honour and purity
of intent. At this point in history, the best action is that taken
by the human bomb.

Holy Qur'an states: 'Wa la taHsabanna alladhina qutillu fi Sabilillahi
'amwatan.' 'Do not think of those who are killed in the way of Allah
as being dead.' To me, it is not of the hereafter alone that this
verse speaks, but of the fact that the memory of a life sacrificed in
the way of justice and truth never dies. It stands as an example to
be followed, but more than that, it is an _expression of faith in our
cause. If I and other human bombs are willing to die in this horrible
fashion for our people, does that not prove that hope for our future
cannot be lost?

To be killed 'fee Sabilillahi', 'in the way or path of Allah', is to
die for selfless reasons, in my opinion. That is why the human bomb,
along with our other heroic martyrs, is one who truly can be said to
have been slain 'fee Sabilillahi', because he or she has been slain in
the pursuit of justice and freedom from Occupation. Nor can it be
considered suicide to launch oneself as a weapon AGAINST the enemy.
The goal of the action of the human bomb is not his or her own death!
The goal is to strike a resounding blow against the enemy. If our own
deaths are required, then so be it, but we do not go out seeking our
own deaths. Let that be very clear. The act of the human bomb is
the ultimate act of protest against the extermination of our people.

If our people go to the slaughter without protest, we will cease to
exist. Let the world look to the Zionist actions and see that,
whatever fairytales they tell, their actions speak of the need to
exterminate us, to wipe us off the face of the homeland. Their
entire culture, religion and government is based upon a racist
premise, that the Jew and only the Jew belongs on this land. Despite
history, despite any reality that proves their premise unconscionable
and unsupported by logic or reason, they do not falter in their goal.
Look to it, World, for those who are not Jewish, be they Arab, Gentile
or anything else, are not considered their equals and they are not by
their morality or religion required to treat you as they do their
fellow Jews. Until the Jew decides to join the human race, there
can be no dealing of equal with equal. It is written in their Talmud.

Enough of them, though. I must prepare for the ultimate act of
resistance against this Occupation and I will not go to my death with
ugliness and brutality in my thoughts. I will think instead of the
symphony of the sea beating against the rocks... of the perfume of
wild thyme rising from sun-baked hills... of the olive tree heavy with
fruit that my great grandfather planted but that exists now only in
our memories... of my mother's smile, encompassing a world of hope
veiled in tears... of the roses, vines and birds she embroidered on
my thob... of the Tree of Life and mihrab door to heaven embroidered
over my heart... the mystical homeland she created in red, white,
green and black, the colours of our land Palestine.

They call us 'terrorists' but it is an absurdity to think that they,
who hold the power of life and death over our entire people each and
every day, could be terrorised by us. We have nothing but our
determination and our willingness to make the ultimate sacrifice. Our
bombs consist of a handful of nails propelled, along with our flesh
and bones, by the crudest of explosives. They can and have shown
that they are willing to reduce an entire city to rubble in a single
day, and make thousands homeless. When they have all the technology
that this new century holds, who is the real terrorist in Palestine or
indeed, throughout the world?

Yet it is true that the enemy fears Death in a way that we do not fear
it. After all, why should we fear to meet the One who created us?
The Christians have a beautiful prayer: 'Hatta idha ajtaztu wadi
dhilali al mawt, la akhafu suwan liannaka turafiquni.' God is the
Comrade who never abandons us, even in the valley of the shadow of
Death. It is not Death that I fear, but the silence of extinction.
Death does not extinguish the flame of our existence. The crown of
the Martyr by tradition is Immortality. It is not my own immortality
that I seek but that of the cause of our people.

We are a strong people. We are steadfast. That is not enough to
prevail against the machinery of Death that has been set in motion
against us. The fact that we have survived a century of genocide
speaks eloquently of our strength and steadfastness, but how much
longer can we endure? Those who robbed us originally of our land die
peacefully in their beds of old age, having spawned another two or
three generations of robbers and thieves. Those offspring convince
themselves that they bear no responsibility for the continuing
deprivation of our people as they invite more robbers into our
homeland, while herding more of our people over the bridge to
exile. They will not listen to the voice of justice. They speak of
'peace' when they have made the word an obscenity.

Salaam is not simply peace. Salaam is peace with justice. When true
peace exists, all is right with the world. When true peace exists,
justice has been served and people do not live as slaves or on mere
suffrance under an oppressive and foreign occupation. Do not speak to
us of your counterfeit Peace.

Salaam is peace but it must be won now through sacrifice. I go now to
win that Peace for Palestine.}

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Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Dr.Martin Luther King, Jr used frequently to remark on the cowardly
silence of his supposed friends in the face of official wickedness.
Then the Jewish secret police shot him down and brother Bobby too.
Why is is that so many anti-semites are so clearly mentally ill, I
wonder?
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
Authors Michael Collins Piper and William Pepper provide the
documentation for this case.
All the follow-ups so far have tacitly accepted the announced fact of
the DC-Tel Aviv Regime (or JAR for Jewish-American R)
having murdered some 3,000,000 Iraqis since 1990.
Although Moloch munches on, the beast begins to wobble.
Only the devil knows what nameless "maiden" was trying to say but here
below's a fresh news-story forwarded by a friend on the topic of the
absence of "free speech" in the "West" (formerly known as
Christendom). Now one is "free" to say only whatever lies the Jews
want to hear this week.
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Author Jailed for Holocaust Denial
By WILLIAM J. KOLE, Associated Press Writer
Monday, December 3, 2007
(12-03) 11:56 PST VIENNA, Austria (AP) --
A right-wing Austrian writer who fled to Spain after being convicted
on
Holocaust denial charges 15 years ago must serve his 18-month
sentence,
Vienna's highest court said Monday.
Gerd Honsik, 67, must serve out the sentence handed down in 1992, the
court said, rejecting his plea for leniency because of his age and a
kidney ailment. However, the court also turned down a prosecution
request to make the former fugitive serve even more time.
Vienna's public prosecutor's office said Honsik still faced possible
charges for alleged neo-Nazi activities carried out during his exile
in
Spain, which could boost his time behind bars.
Investigators said a decision on whether to charge Honsik for articles
he published in print and online in Spain could come later this month.
Honsik was captured in southern Spain in August and extradited in
October. He fled after being convicted of denying the existence of the
Holocaust and claiming the Nazis never used gas chambers -- grounds for
criminal prosecution in Austria.
The charges stemmed from writings that defended Adolf Hitler's Third
Reich. Between 1986 and 1989, Honsik published writings disputing that
the Nazis killed 6 million Jews during World War II. Among his books
is
one titled "Acquittal for Hitler?"
Austria's law making it a crime to deny the Holocaust or promote Nazi
propaganda applies to "whoever denies, grossly plays down, approves or
tries to excuse the National Socialist genocide or other National
Socialist crimes against humanity in a print publication, in broadcast
or other media."
The crime is punishable by up to 10 years in prison.
British author David Irving was convicted under the law in February
2006
Irving, rather foolishly, announced publicly he was going to enter
Austria, despite being persona non grata there. What else could the
authorities have done? Even his wife admits he was asking for it...
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and sentenced to three years in prison. He served 13 months and was
released in December 2006 on probation.
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Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
While drafting a reply to the nameless hired Hebrew hack "parri", I
happened to google the phrase "justice is on our side", which in turn
led me to the essay below by Ms. Hujayra al 'Arabi .
Ah! A bot.. thought so.

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