Post by Bill Z.Post by Stan de SDPost by Stan de SDIf you're not aware that Bush was in the Texas ANG, you're more
clueless than I thought, Kevin.
No, your truthiness is showing. Bush never served, he ran from the
draft and jumped over 97 other cowards to get into the Funtime
National Guard.
Did you know that 9 of the names on the Vietnam Wall are from Air
National Guard pilots killed in combat? Yod do know that ANG
... none of whom were in the champagne units
Once again, show me where this term "champagne unit" came from. It
wasn't from a military type, was it, Billy?
- a tiny number of
Post by Bill Z.national guard units set up to protect very important people or
their children.
You have any sources for this other than your extreme-left-wing foamer
friends who think that reading a NYT article and watching re-runs of
MASH make them experts on military policy?
Post by Bill Z.There's no need for such units now, of course,
since we don't have an active draft.
The 111th FS still exists, dipstick. You realy ARE clueless, aren't
you?
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111th Fighter Squadron [111th FS]
The 111th Fighter Squadron began as the 111th Aero Squadron on 14
August 1917 at Kelly Field, TX. The unit, composed of teamsters and
laborers, was on special duty at Kelly and was known as the "Post
Headquarters Squadron." The squadron deactivated 19 August 1919 but
was called to service again on 29 June 1923 in the old Houston Light
Guard Armory, as the 111th Observation Squadron, 36th Division, Texas
Air National Guard.
The squadron had no airplanes, so the hot summer of 1923 was devoted
to close-order drill and classroom sessions. That was remedied,
however, in September of that year when the 111th became airborne in
the Curtiss JN-6H.
In September 1927 the Curtiss JN-6Hs were retired and the squadron
gained PT-1s and several other trainers until June 1928 when new O-2
observation aircraft arrived. These planes were replaced with new O-38
Douglas operation planes in January 1931.
By 1938 the squadron was flying both O-43As and O-47s.
With the onset of World War II, the unit was called into federal
service 25 November 1940 and trained with the 36th Division until it
was sent to the Mexican border after Pearl Harbor was bombed. The
border patrol was short, and on 14 February 1942 the squadron left
Texas for Augusta, GA, and became part of the 68th Observation Group.
By November 1942 the squadron was in Europe. During 23 months of
continuous combat flying, from June 1943 through May 1945, the 111th
Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron flew 3,840 reconnaissance missions.
While keeping Army Headquarters informed of enemy movements, the 111th
destroyed 44 enemy aircraft, damaged 29 others and claimed 12 probable
kills. The squadron received eight Battle Stars and the Presidential
Unit Citation for its World War II accomplishments. The squadron also
served during the Korean War, flying mostly close-air support and
interdiction missions and destroying two MiG-15 fighter jets.
Between 1952 and 1959 the squadron flew many aircraft, to include the
F-80, F-86D and F-86L. In August 1960 the unit became one of the first
to transition to the F-102A all-weather fighter interceptor and began
a 24-hour alert to guard the Texas Gulf coast. By January 1970 the
wing was starting a new mission: training all F-102 pilots in the
United States for the Air National Guard.
On 6 May 1971 the unit received F-101F fighter interceptors and became
the training center for all Air Guard interceptors. In August 1974,
after 14 years of service, the unit's F-102s were retired, but the
unit maintained a full fleet of F-101s.
The squadron converted to F-4Cs in 1982 and converted to F-4Ds
starting in November 1986.
In September 1989 the 111th converted to the F-16A, and by June 1992
the jets were being converted to F-16 air defense fighters, later
converting to F-16Cs beginning in September 1996; a transition
completed by February 1997.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/usaf/111fs.htm
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Post by Bill Z.Post by Stan de SDThere is still paper work that Bush filled out were
he checked the box that said he wasn't going over seas.
The choice refers to PREFEENCE of a permanent duty station, not a
promise that he would never go overseas. If the military needs you,
you go where they tell you.
See <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_National_Guard>. It
wasn't until 1987 that a "governor cannot withhold consent with regard
to active duty outside the United States because of any objection to
the location, purpose, type, or schedule of such duty." While the
National Guard participate in the Vietnam War, a governor at the time
could control which divisions were sent there. It wasn't the
champagne division that would go, and it was well known at the time
that the risk of ending up in that war was significantly lower, but
not zero, for members of the National Guard than for members of the
U.S. Army.
Blathering nonsense about which you know nothing about. The box refers
to PERMANENT DUTY stations for active duty types. In the active duty
Air Force, you don't join a particular unit: the powers that be assign/
transfer you for training/duty as needed. In the Guards and Reserves,
you join a specific UNIT that you are eventually returned to upon
completion of your IADT (Initial Active Duty Training).
Your PERMANENT DUTY station is the home base (location) of your unit.
As a member of the Guards and Reserves, you are told to check that
box, because your permanent duty station is stateside. However, that
doesn't mean you don't ever go overseas. If you are given active duty
orders, you can be sent on Temporary Duty (TDY) anywhere in the world,
at times on very short notice. The fact that I checked a very similar
box (because I was told to do so) as a Reservist didn't stop me from
flying all over the world. In 1985 ALONE, besides flying all over the
US, I made multipe trips across the Pacific AND Atlantic, and traveled
to Panama, The Azores, England, Germany, Spain, Italy, Greece, Turkey,
Egypt, Diego Garcia, Japan, Korea, the Philippines, Thailand,
Australia, New Zealand, and dozens of islands in the Pacific, some of
whose names I don't even remember. Once again, you really don't have a
clue WTF you are talking about, Billy.