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Bernanke: Deficits Threaten Financial Stability
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kujebak
2009-06-04 21:11:07 UTC
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No fucking shit :-)))
Now that we’re done with the multi-trillion bankster
bailout comes the time to begin paying for it all by
raising taxes on those who work for a living.
How about a surtax on *interest income*?
I’ll go for that.
Is Ken Darian
2009-06-04 22:21:25 UTC
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Post by kujebak
http://tinyurl.com/qeg299
No fucking shit :-)))
Now that we’re done with the multi-trillion bankster
bailout comes the time to begin paying for it all by
raising taxes on those who work for a living.
How about a surtax on *interest income*?
I’ll go for that.
Why?

Do you hate pensioners?
kujebak
2009-06-04 23:16:32 UTC
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Post by Is Ken Darian
Post by kujebak
http://tinyurl.com/qeg299
No fucking shit :-)))
Now that we’re done with the multi-trillion bankster
bailout comes the time to begin paying for it all by
raising taxes on those who work for a living.
How about a surtax on *interest income*?
I’ll go for that.
Why?
Do you hate pensioners?
Everyone , which, as you point out includes pension
funds and their clients, who has benefited from this
unprecedented fiscal intervention in the bond market,
should be compelled to maximum extent possible to
help alleviate the enormous burden of this intervention
to current and future wage earners. If you don’t think
so, would you care to explain why??
Is Ken Darian
2009-06-04 23:20:27 UTC
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Post by Is Ken Darian
Post by kujebak
http://tinyurl.com/qeg299
No fucking shit :-)))
Now that we’re done with the multi-trillion bankster
bailout comes the time to begin paying for it all by
raising taxes on those who work for a living.
How about a surtax on *interest income*?
I’ll go for that.
Why?
Do you hate pensioners?
Everyone , which, as you point out includes pension
funds and their clients, who has benefited from this
unprecedented fiscal intervention in the bond market,
should be compelled to maximum extent possible to
help alleviate the enormous burden of this intervention
to current and future wage earners. If you don’t think
so, would you care to explain why??
Because that would lead to immediate economic morbidity on a broad
systemic basis.

Would you like to be a GM bondholder right about now?
kujebak
2009-06-05 00:17:16 UTC
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Post by Is Ken Darian
Post by kujebak
Post by Is Ken Darian
Post by kujebak
http://tinyurl.com/qeg299
No fucking shit :-)))
Now that we’re done with the multi-trillion bankster
bailout comes the time to begin paying for it all by
raising taxes on those who work for a living.
How about a surtax on *interest income*?
I’ll go for that.
Why?
Do you hate pensioners?
Everyone , which, as you point out includes pension
funds and their clients, who has benefited from this
unprecedented fiscal intervention in the bond market,
should be compelled to maximum extent possible to
help alleviate the enormous burden of this intervention
to current and future wage earners. If you don’t think
so, would you care to explain why??
Because that would lead to immediate economic morbidity on a broad
systemic basis.
Really? And you base that presumption on what
exactly? Isn't that how this scheme was rammed
through the legislature. Economic fear mongering.
But nothing has happened (other than the 5 million
jobs lost as a result of the fear mongering), despite
the fact that none of the TARP money was actually
used to buy "toxic assets", most of which were
scarfed by the Fed for pennies on the dollar. Per-
haps there weren't really enough of these "toxic
assets", or most of the troubled assets were really
not that toxic, to justify the tax payer "investment".
Yet, when asked where any of this money actually
went, nobody seems to know, including, apparently,
the Treasury Department.
Post by Is Ken Darian
Would you like to be a GM bondholder right about now?- Hide quoted text -
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I'm sorry, but the GM bondholders were screwed by
Obama and the labor unions, which is an entirely different
issue, that may have an even more profound and long-
lasting effect on the investment markets, but clearly has
has absolutely nothing to do with my point ;-)
Is Ken Darian
2009-06-05 05:30:28 UTC
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Post by Is Ken Darian
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Post by Is Ken Darian
Post by kujebak
http://tinyurl.com/qeg299
No fucking shit :-)))
Now that we’re done with the multi-trillion bankster
bailout comes the time to begin paying for it all by
raising taxes on those who work for a living.
How about a surtax on *interest income*?
I’ll go for that.
Why?
Do you hate pensioners?
Everyone , which, as you point out includes pension
funds and their clients, who has benefited from this
unprecedented fiscal intervention in the bond market,
should be compelled to maximum extent possible to
help alleviate the enormous burden of this intervention
to current and future wage earners. If you don’t think
so, would you care to explain why??
Because that would lead to immediate economic morbidity on a broad
systemic basis.
Really?
Really.
Post by kujebak
And you base that presumption on what
exactly?
Reality.
Post by kujebak
Isn't that how this scheme was rammed
through the legislature. Economic fear mongering.
Nope.

It had its genesis in credit default swaps and the LIBOR and TED spread.

Any idea what those are?

Any idea how things work and how money flows?

Think hard.

Then wipe yourself, shithead.
kujebak
2009-06-05 07:16:06 UTC
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Post by Is Ken Darian
Post by kujebak
Post by Is Ken Darian
Post by kujebak
Post by Is Ken Darian
Post by kujebak
http://tinyurl.com/qeg299
No fucking shit :-)))
Now that we’re done with the multi-trillion bankster
bailout comes the time to begin paying for it all by
raising taxes on those who work for a living.
How about a surtax on *interest income*?
I’ll go for that.
Why?
Do you hate pensioners?
Everyone , which, as you point out includes pension
funds and their clients, who has benefited from this
unprecedented fiscal intervention in the bond market,
should be compelled to maximum extent possible to
help alleviate the enormous burden of this intervention
to current and future wage earners. If you don’t think
so, would you care to explain why??
Because that would lead to immediate economic morbidity on a broad
systemic basis.
Really?
Really.
Post by kujebak
And you base that presumption on what
exactly?
Reality.
Post by kujebak
Isn't that how this scheme was rammed
through the legislature. Economic fear mongering.
Nope.
It had its genesis in credit default swaps and the LIBOR and TED spread.
Any idea what those are?
Any idea how things work and how money flows?
Think hard.
Then wipe yourself, shithead.- Hide quoted text -
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So you don't really have any arguments to stand on.
So go fuck yourself, you asshole.
Is Ken Darian
2009-06-05 16:34:02 UTC
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Post by Is Ken Darian
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Post by Is Ken Darian
Post by kujebak
Post by Is Ken Darian
Post by kujebak
http://tinyurl.com/qeg299
No fucking shit :-)))
Now that we’re done with the multi-trillion bankster
bailout comes the time to begin paying for it all by
raising taxes on those who work for a living.
How about a surtax on *interest income*?
I’ll go for that.
Why?
Do you hate pensioners?
Everyone , which, as you point out includes pension
funds and their clients, who has benefited from this
unprecedented fiscal intervention in the bond market,
should be compelled to maximum extent possible to
help alleviate the enormous burden of this intervention
to current and future wage earners. If you don’t think
so, would you care to explain why??
Because that would lead to immediate economic morbidity on a broad
systemic basis.
Really?
Really.
Post by kujebak
And you base that presumption on what
exactly?
Reality.
Post by kujebak
Isn't that how this scheme was rammed
through the legislature. Economic fear mongering.
Nope.
It had its genesis in credit default swaps and the LIBOR and TED spread.
Any idea what those are?
Any idea how things work and how money flows?
Think hard.
Then wipe yourself, shithead.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So you don't really have any arguments
So you really are as blind and stupid as a statue.

Curt
2009-06-05 14:41:39 UTC
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Post by kujebak
I'm sorry, but the GM bondholders were screwed by
Obama and the labor unions, which is an entirely different
issue, that may have an even more profound and long-
lasting effect on the investment markets, but clearly has
has absolutely nothing to do with my point ;-)-
No. The GM bondholders were screwed by the GM management, who made the
decision years ago that they were going to continue building cars
people weren't going to buy.

Neither Obie nor the union had anything to do with that.

Curt
kujebak
2009-06-05 16:29:09 UTC
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Post by kujebak
I'm sorry, but the GM bondholders were screwed by
Obama and the labor unions, which is an entirely different
issue, that may have an even more profound and long-
lasting effect on the investment markets, but clearly has
has absolutely nothing to do with my point ;-)-
No. The GM bondholders were screwed by the GM management, who made the
decision years ago that they were going to continue building cars
people weren't going to buy.
Neither Obie nor the union had anything to do with that.
Curt
Really? How did the Union retiree health care fund
get ahead of the GM bondholders, and what did that
have to do with making lousy cars? Absolutely nothing.
Pure politics. Of course the GM management is
complicit in this mockery of due process. By making
such extreme concessions to the union in the 2007
contract inspite of dismal economic prospects for the
company at the time. Without the $30 billion retiree
"health care fund" the GM bondholders would now be
getting what they're legally entitled to - their own money
back, or a reasonable amount of equity in the company
in lieu of it. Instead they were vilified by Obama, and
offered pennies on the dollar. Now was that good politics
in light of the current state of the economy and the level
of the administration's effort to revitalize the private sector
as quickly as possible? Who, in their right mind, would
ever consider lending another dollar to a company like
that? Who would ever consider buying a car from a com-
pany like that? From now on, GM is for ever destined
to remain on the dole, regardless of what anybody says.
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