Discussion:
Mexicans were NOT here BEFORE the USofA
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Stan de SD
2006-10-22 21:10:24 UTC
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So what your Saying with your Misinformation is that they Stayed
on the other Side of the Rio Grande for Hundreds or Thousands of years
overpopulating and in Poverty when all the Riches were on the Other Side
of the Rio Grande well thats kind of Hard to Believe.
"Poverty" in Mexico doesn't exist because a bunch of evil white gringos
north of the Rio Grande persecuted the Mexicans. Mexico is rich in natural
resources and arable land, just like the United States. Poverty exists
because of the POLITICAL AND SOCIAL CULTURE OF MEXICO - society that doesn't
value personal property right, individual freedoms, rule of law,
enterpreneurial initiative, or education. If you really wish to discuss some
issues, you need to educate yourself on the effects of cultural issues on
economic prosperity. Try reading "Race and Culture" by Thomas Sowell, "The
Wealth and Poverty of Nations" by David S. Landes, and "The End of Racism"
by Dinesh D'Douza should you have any desire to conduct this discussion in
an educated manner.
Also It doesnt Matter
if Mexico was here or not the People that have lived here for Thousands
of years
THERE WAS NO MEXICO BEFORE THE EARLY NINETEENTH CENTURY. Mexico was a
political construct of the collapse of the Spanish Empire. Those indigenous
peoples living in the southwestern US at the time were separate, distinct
groups from those in central Mexico, and became US citizens unless they
voluntarily chose to emigrate to Mexico (very few did). The present illegals
coming to the us have NO ties any indigenous groups or tribes that lived
here before, so they are NOT "reclaiming their own land. That's purely the
type of La Raza nonsense that simple-minded types like you latch onto when
you start bleating about "stolen lands"... :O|
Just Consider yourself Lucky that the Mexicans are a Peaceful People
Then explain why the majority of violent felons jailed in Los Angeles County
are illegal aliens:

Oh, really?

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--A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995
that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California
is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The
bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in
California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and
drive-by assassinations. It commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A.
County. The gang has grown dramatically over the last two decades by
recruiting recently arrived youngsters, most of them illegal, from Central
America and Mexico.
--Law enforcement officials estimate that 20% of gang members in San Diego
County are illegal, according to the Union-Tribune.

-- The L.A. County Sheriff reported in 2000 that 23% of inmates in county
jails were deportable, according to the New York Times.

-- In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide in
the first half of 2004 (which totaled 1,200 to 1,500) targeted illegal
aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) were for
illegal aliens.

--The Los Angeles Police Department arrests about 2500 criminally-convicted
deportees annually, reports the Los Angeles Times.

Though the numbers of illegal gang members remain elusive, the evidence for
the destructive effects of sanctuary laws is incontrovertible. In 2002, for
example, four illegal Mexicans, accompanied by one legal immigrant, abducted
and brutally raped a 42-year-old mother of two near some railroad tracks in
Queens, New York. The New York Police Department had already arrested three
of the illegal aliens numerous times for such crimes as assault, attempted
robbery, criminal trespass, illegal gun possession, and drug offenses. But
pursuant to New York's sanctuary policy, the department had never notified
the INS.

Five months ago, Carlos Barrera, an illegal Mexican in Hollywood, Ca.,
mugged three people, burglarized two apartments, and tried to rape a
five-year-old girl. Barrera had been deported four years ago after serving
time for robbery, drugs, and burglary. Since his reentry following
deportation, he had been stopped twice for traffic violations. But thanks to
special order 40, the police had never mentioned him to the immigration
authorities, reports the New York Times.

Cousins Aneceto and Jaime Reyes committed murder and a car-jacking,
respectively, after returning to Los Angeles from Mexico following
deportation. The Los Angeles police had encountered them before these most
recent crimes, but had to wait for them to commit murder and a car-jacking
before they could lay a finger on them for their immigration offenses,
according to the New York Times.

http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/mac_donald04-13-05.htm

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<rest of nonsense from a fuctional illiterate snipped for brevity>
Paine
2006-10-26 04:23:52 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
So what your Saying with your Misinformation is that they Stayed
on the other Side of the Rio Grande for Hundreds or Thousands of years
overpopulating and in Poverty when all the Riches were on the Other Side
of the Rio Grande well thats kind of Hard to Believe.
"Poverty" in Mexico doesn't exist because a bunch of evil white gringos
north of the Rio Grande persecuted the Mexicans. Mexico is rich in natural
resources and arable land, just like the United States. Poverty exists
because of the POLITICAL AND SOCIAL CULTURE OF MEXICO - society that doesn't
value personal property right, individual freedoms, rule of law,
enterpreneurial initiative, or education. If you really wish to discuss some
issues, you need to educate yourself on the effects of cultural issues on
economic prosperity. Try reading "Race and Culture" by Thomas Sowell, "The
Wealth and Poverty of Nations" by David S. Landes, and "The End of Racism"
by Dinesh D'Douza should you have any desire to conduct this discussion in
an educated manner.
Also It doesnt Matter
if Mexico was here or not the People that have lived here for Thousands
of years
THERE WAS NO MEXICO BEFORE THE EARLY NINETEENTH CENTURY. Mexico was a
political construct of the collapse of the Spanish Empire. Those indigenous
peoples living in the southwestern US at the time were separate, distinct
groups from those in central Mexico, and became US citizens unless they
voluntarily chose to emigrate to Mexico (very few did). The present illegals
coming to the us have NO ties any indigenous groups or tribes that lived
here before, so they are NOT "reclaiming their own land. That's purely the
type of La Raza nonsense that simple-minded types like you latch onto when
you start bleating about "stolen lands"... :O|
Just Consider yourself Lucky that the Mexicans are a Peaceful People
Then explain why the majority of violent felons jailed in Los Angeles County
Oh, really?
=================================================================
--A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995
that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California
is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The
bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in
California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and
drive-by assassinations. It commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A.
County. The gang has grown dramatically over the last two decades by
recruiting recently arrived youngsters, most of them illegal, from Central
America and Mexico.
--Law enforcement officials estimate that 20% of gang members in San Diego
County are illegal, according to the Union-Tribune.
-- The L.A. County Sheriff reported in 2000 that 23% of inmates in county
jails were deportable, according to the New York Times.
-- In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide in
the first half of 2004 (which totaled 1,200 to 1,500) targeted illegal
aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) were for
illegal aliens.
--The Los Angeles Police Department arrests about 2500 criminally-convicted
deportees annually, reports the Los Angeles Times.
Though the numbers of illegal gang members remain elusive, the evidence for
the destructive effects of sanctuary laws is incontrovertible. In 2002, for
example, four illegal Mexicans, accompanied by one legal immigrant, abducted
and brutally raped a 42-year-old mother of two near some railroad tracks in
Queens, New York. The New York Police Department had already arrested three
of the illegal aliens numerous times for such crimes as assault, attempted
robbery, criminal trespass, illegal gun possession, and drug offenses. But
pursuant to New York's sanctuary policy, the department had never notified
the INS.
Five months ago, Carlos Barrera, an illegal Mexican in Hollywood, Ca.,
mugged three people, burglarized two apartments, and tried to rape a
five-year-old girl. Barrera had been deported four years ago after serving
time for robbery, drugs, and burglary. Since his reentry following
deportation, he had been stopped twice for traffic violations. But thanks to
special order 40, the police had never mentioned him to the immigration
authorities, reports the New York Times.
Cousins Aneceto and Jaime Reyes committed murder and a car-jacking,
respectively, after returning to Los Angeles from Mexico following
deportation. The Los Angeles police had encountered them before these most
recent crimes, but had to wait for them to commit murder and a car-jacking
before they could lay a finger on them for their immigration offenses,
according to the New York Times.
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/mac_donald04-13-05.htm
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<rest of nonsense from a fuctional illiterate snipped for brevity>
You are 100% right!

Liberals and respectable conservatives say there is this RACE problem.
Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world
pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but
nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in
millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY
white country and ONLY white countries to "assimilate," i.e.,
intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would
be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into
EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I am not talking about a RACE
problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what
kind of psycho black man wouldn't object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide
against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives
agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

http://whitakeronline.ORG

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Stan de SD
2006-10-28 20:48:20 UTC
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"Paine" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:sLW%g.19328$***@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...

Get lost, Pain. This is a CULTURAL issue, not a racial one. Just because I
criticize Lefty Liberal assholes doesn't mean I have to cozy up to the white
supremacist crowd. :O(

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