Pombo spot on KGO

In article

Pombo it too right ring for me on a lot of issues. However, on the

issues

that congress has a *real* impact, and which are important to my

livelihood

as a small business owner, it's Pombo hands down.

From what I can tell, that's the way people look at it there. They don't
give a flip about the nonsense we in cities fret over: gay marriage,
abortion, and an endless list of politically correct concerns. They want
to know how much it's going to cost them to live, how secure they are
going to be in their homes and businesses, and how much the government
is going to try to be their nanny.
It's their actual quality of life, not nebulous wedge issues that are
important.

Well said... Many people in the SF Bay Area forget that most people are too
busy leading their own lives and taking care of their own concerns than
trying to force their own Utiopian vision on the rest of the planet... :Oo

Stan de SD

2006-10-15 22:58:52 UTC

It's their actual quality of life, not nebulous wedge issues that are
important.

But this is the area where Pombo is most vulnerable. He's paved the
way (literally) for gigantic housing developments that have reduced
farm land and open space by nearly 60% during his tenure.

So fucking what?

This is a CLASSIC example of the disconnect between lefties such as yourself
and people who actually have to work for a living. In your mind, the most
important thing is making stands for (farmland) or against (developers)
things as they measure up to your Utopian vision. For others, it's having a
place they can afford to live yet still be employable.

People are
waking up and saying that they don't want to live in endless housing
developments.

So where do you think they would like to live? In their cars parked on rest
stops on I-5? Camped out on a fold-away bed in Uncle Ed's basement in Daly
City? Sure, if people truly in one of the "painted ladies" on Russian Hill
would be nice, and so would a house in Big Sur or a cabin in Mammoth - but
are they practical solutions? Not for 99.99% of the people who hold down
jobs and keep the economy running so that you and your fellow pontificators
can sip latte at some trendy cafe and stick your noses up at the unwashed
masses. OTOH, a tract home in Tracy, where they still have a reasonable
chance of getting to work and home in the same day, and reasonably adequate
housing, seems to fit the bill for a lot of folks.

David, you really need to get out of the city more often, and see how the
real world works for a change... :O(

cmdr buzz corey

2006-10-16 05:28:09 UTC

Post by Stan de SD
David, you really need to get out of the city more often, and see how the
real world works for a change... :O(

The libs can't take the real world, it upsets their fantasy view of the
world.

Steven

2006-10-16 17:38:01 UTC

Post by Stan de SD
David, you really need to get out of the city more often, and see how the
real world works for a change... :O(

The libs can't take the real world, it upsets their fantasy view of the
world.

Well, are more cons 'getting it' or more libs? With the world
population at well past 6 billion, I think 'getting it' is not a
political issue.

Stan de SD

2006-10-16 17:52:40 UTC

Post by Stan de SD
David, you really need to get out of the city more often, and see how the
real world works for a change... :O(

The libs can't take the real world, it upsets their fantasy view of the
world.

Well, are more cons 'getting it' or more libs? With the world
population at well past 6 billion, I think 'getting it' is not a
political issue.

Steve, feel free to join the discussion when you can stay on point.

Steven

2006-10-16 17:56:51 UTC

Post by Stan de SD
David, you really need to get out of the city more often, and see how

the

Post by Stan de SD
real world works for a change... :O(

The libs can't take the real world, it upsets their fantasy view of the
world.

Well, are more cons 'getting it' or more libs? With the world
population at well past 6 billion, I think 'getting it' is not a
political issue.

Steve, feel free to join the discussion when you can stay on point.

Well, god damn...thought this was a discussion on liberal disconnect
from reality.

There is no fucking point.

Stan de SD

2006-10-16 18:04:24 UTC

Post by Stan de SD
David, you really need to get out of the city more often, and see how

the

Post by Stan de SD
real world works for a change... :O(

The libs can't take the real world, it upsets their fantasy view of the
world.

Well, are more cons 'getting it' or more libs? With the world
population at well past 6 billion, I think 'getting it' is not a
political issue.

Steve, feel free to join the discussion when you can stay on point.

Well, god damn...thought this was a discussion on liberal disconnect
from reality.
There is no fucking point.

Steve, I'll get back to you when I figure out the appropriate emoticon for
"eyes rolling".

Steven

2006-10-16 18:07:38 UTC

Post by Stan de SD
David, you really need to get out of the city more often, and see

how

Post by Stan de SD
the

Post by Stan de SD
real world works for a change... :O(

The libs can't take the real world, it upsets their fantasy view of

the

Post by cmdr buzz corey
world.

Well, are more cons 'getting it' or more libs? With the world
population at well past 6 billion, I think 'getting it' is not a
political issue.

Steve, feel free to join the discussion when you can stay on point.

Well, god damn...thought this was a discussion on liberal disconnect
from reality.
There is no fucking point.

Steve, I'll get back to you when I figure out the appropriate emoticon for
"eyes rolling".

There are no emoticons in a text-only group! None on Google either.

Stan de SD

2006-10-16 18:42:47 UTC

Post by Stan de SD
David, you really need to get out of the city more often, and see

how

Post by Stan de SD
the

Post by Stan de SD
real world works for a change... :O(

The libs can't take the real world, it upsets their fantasy view of

the

Post by cmdr buzz corey
world.

Well, are more cons 'getting it' or more libs? With the world
population at well past 6 billion, I think 'getting it' is not a
political issue.

Steve, feel free to join the discussion when you can stay on point.

Well, god damn...thought this was a discussion on liberal disconnect
from reality.
There is no fucking point.

Steve, I'll get back to you when I figure out the appropriate emoticon for
"eyes rolling".

There are no emoticons in a text-only group! None on Google either.

Let me see if I can remember how to stick my tongue out in text.. :OP

Jafo

2006-10-16 18:44:40 UTC

Steven wrote...

Steven wrote...

Post by Stan de SD
David, you really need to get out of the city more often, and see
how the real world works for a change... :O(

The libs can't take the real world, it upsets their fantasy view of
the world.

Well, are more cons 'getting it' or more libs? With the world
population at well past 6 billion, I think 'getting it' is not a
political issue.

Steve, feel free to join the discussion when you can stay on point.

Well, god damn...thought this was a discussion on liberal disconnect
from reality.
There is no fucking point.

Steve, I'll get back to you when I figure out the appropriate emoticon for
"eyes rolling".

There are no emoticons in a text-only group! None on Google either.

:-O

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Steven

2006-10-16 18:50:33 UTC

YIPPEE

Thank you for staying at Motel 6!

hc23hc

2006-10-16 19:13:54 UTC

Post by Stan de SD
Steve, feel free to join the discussion when you can stay on point.

There is no fucking point.

Steve, I'll get back to you when I figure out the appropriate emoticon for
"eyes rolling".

As if angry white trolling Zio-hazards like Stain de STD could get any
closet-gayer...

Everyone else gets the picture, Stain. In the meantime, please resist
temptation to twitch and wiggle whatever misshapen thing's been filling
out your 'nice slacks' whenever you come near a keyboard.

On behalf of the usenet, thank you in advance for your prompt attention
to this matter.

.
.
.

Jafo

2006-10-16 19:22:30 UTC

Post by Stan de SD
Steve, feel free to join the discussion when you can stay on point.

There is no fucking point.

Steve, I'll get back to you when I figure out the appropriate emoticon
for "eyes rolling".

As if angry white trolling Zio-hazards like Stain de STD could get any
closet-gayer...
Everyone else gets the picture, Stain. In the meantime, please resist
temptation to twitch and wiggle whatever misshapen thing's been filling
out your 'nice slacks' whenever you come near a keyboard.
On behalf of the usenet, thank you in advance for your prompt attention
to this matter.

Haven't seen or smelled you in a little while, Slick. Did you grab
the strap-on and go off on one of your long Thai weekends?

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Stan de SD

2006-10-16 19:27:44 UTC

Post by Stan de SD
Steve, feel free to join the discussion when you can stay on point.

There is no fucking point.

Steve, I'll get back to you when I figure out the appropriate emoticon
for "eyes rolling".

As if angry white trolling Zio-hazards like Stain de STD could get any
closet-gayer...
Everyone else gets the picture, Stain. In the meantime, please resist
temptation to twitch and wiggle whatever misshapen thing's been filling
out your 'nice slacks' whenever you come near a keyboard.
On behalf of the usenet, thank you in advance for your prompt attention
to this matter.

Haven't seen or smelled you in a little while, Slick. Did you grab
the strap-on and go off on one of your long Thai weekends?

I see she couldn't be content with her usual anal-obsessive remarks, and had
to work the Z-word in there somewhere. :Oo

hc23hc

2006-10-16 19:34:56 UTC

Post by Stan de SD
Steve, feel free to join the discussion when you can stay on point.

There is no fucking point.

Steve, I'll get back to you when I figure out the appropriate emoticon
for "eyes rolling".

As if angry white trolling Zio-hazards like Stain de STD could get any
closet-gayer...
Everyone else gets the picture, Stain. In the meantime, please resist
temptation to twitch and wiggle whatever misshapen thing's been filling
out your 'nice slacks' whenever you come near a keyboard.
On behalf of the usenet, thank you in advance for your prompt attention
to this matter.

Haven't seen or smelled you in a little while, Slick. Did you grab
the strap-on and go off on one of your long Thai weekends?

Wow. Things that go through Jafoley's head for 1000, Alex...

If being less irrelevant that you is wrong, old fruit, I don't want to
be right.

Try this on for size, Jafoley -

Or this -

As John Walsh reports in "Election 2006: The Fix is already In":

"64% of the Democratic candidates in the 45 closely contested House
Congressional races OPPOSE a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq. Note
carefully: not only do these Democratic worthies oppose the Murtha or
McGovern bills for rapid withdrawal or defunding the war; they oppose
as much as a timetable. The position of these Dem candidates is
indistinguishable from that of George W. Bush".

Prediction: The Democrats will never get us out of Iraq nor will they
repeal the Patriot Act or the Military Commissions Act of 2006 (which
allows Bush to imprison American citizens without charges and torture
them according to his own discretion).

The party has been co-opted by a pro-business, liberty-slashing,
war-mongering clique of free traders who simply feel they can put a
better face on imperial politics.

No argument there; but for anyone with a trace of a conscience, the
prospect of voting for a party that may slaughter another half-million
or so Iraqis presents some basic ethical problems. Is it too
sanctimonious to suggest that the war in Iraq is MORALLY EVIL, and that
any policy or party that supports the conflict must be flatly rejected?

Ahhh yes; time to don the body-armor and protective headgear that one
needs whenever they make disparaging remarks about the Democratic
Party. It's never healthy to take aim at the emasculated phonies who
run America's "other" war party.

Regrettably, the Democratic Party is only slightly different from the
GOP. That's not pessimism; it's realism. We need to be clear about the
magnitude of the task in front of us if we expect to have any hope of
restoring our personal liberties and ending the butchery in Iraq.

.
.
.

Steven

2006-10-16 20:35:34 UTC

There still isn't any fucking point, only more people dancing around it.

Stan de SD

2006-10-16 20:58:04 UTC

Post by Steven
There still isn't any fucking point, only more people dancing around it.

You're awfully feisty today - did you overdo it with the catnip over the
weekend, or what?

brainfart

2006-10-18 21:38:36 UTC

Stan de SD wrote...

It's their actual quality of life, not nebulous wedge issues that are
important.

But this is the area where Pombo is most vulnerable. He's paved the
way (literally) for gigantic housing developments that have reduced
farm land and open space by nearly 60% during his tenure.

So fucking what?
This is a CLASSIC example of the disconnect between lefties such as yourself
and people who actually have to work for a living. In your mind, the most
important thing is making stands for (farmland) or against (developers)
things as they measure up to your Utopian vision. For others, it's having a
place they can afford to live yet still be employable.

And that's a perfectly good argument for converting farmland to housing,
but Rep. Pombo did not do it for your personal benefit, he did it because
he was bribed by large real estate developers. Americans love to decry
corruption among their elected officials - especially if the official
belongs to a rival political party - but when the corruption has the
side effect of benefiting a third party like yourself, you pretend it's
not corruption and instead some sort of guiding moral principle on
Pombo's part.

I'm going to put words in your mouth and declare that if Pombo were a
liberal Democrat who sponsored the same law to convert farmland to
housing developments, that you would be condemning him for it, babbling
on about farm family virtues and even how the loss of farmland affects
national security by making America more reliant on food imports.

Stan de SD

2006-10-18 22:19:19 UTC

Post by brainfart
Stan de SD wrote...

It's their actual quality of life, not nebulous wedge issues that are
important.

But this is the area where Pombo is most vulnerable. He's paved the
way (literally) for gigantic housing developments that have reduced
farm land and open space by nearly 60% during his tenure.

So fucking what?
This is a CLASSIC example of the disconnect between lefties such as yourself
and people who actually have to work for a living. In your mind, the most
important thing is making stands for (farmland) or against (developers)
things as they measure up to your Utopian vision. For others, it's having a
place they can afford to live yet still be employable.

And that's a perfectly good argument for converting farmland to housing,
but Rep. Pombo did not do it for your personal benefit, he did it because
he was bribed by large real estate developers.

Proof?

Post by brainfart
I'm going to put words in your mouth and declare that if Pombo were a
liberal Democrat who sponsored the same law to convert farmland to
housing developments, that you would be condemning him for it,

Wrong. You obviously don't follow my posts in various ba.* NG's, where I
have become the epitome of the bunny-stomping ogre among the self-proclaimed
"open space" advocates, nor has my advocacy of ending all farm subsidies
immediately made me many friends in the Midwest as of late... :O|

Steven

2006-10-18 22:33:06 UTC

Post by brainfart
Stan de SD wrote...

It's their actual quality of life, not nebulous wedge issues that are
important.

But this is the area where Pombo is most vulnerable. He's paved the
way (literally) for gigantic housing developments that have reduced
farm land and open space by nearly 60% during his tenure.

So fucking what?
This is a CLASSIC example of the disconnect between lefties such as

yourself

Post by Stan de SD
and people who actually have to work for a living. In your mind, the

most

Post by Stan de SD
important thing is making stands for (farmland) or against (developers)
things as they measure up to your Utopian vision. For others, it's

having a

Post by Stan de SD
place they can afford to live yet still be employable.

And that's a perfectly good argument for converting farmland to housing,
but Rep. Pombo did not do it for your personal benefit, he did it because
he was bribed by large real estate developers.

Proof?

If he did he'd have to sort through all the twits you constantly rip
your perceived sexuality and other useless crap. Usenet is pretty
helpful, yep.

Stan de SD

2006-10-19 01:23:34 UTC

Post by brainfart
Stan de SD wrote...

It's their actual quality of life, not nebulous wedge issues that are
important.

But this is the area where Pombo is most vulnerable. He's paved the
way (literally) for gigantic housing developments that have reduced
farm land and open space by nearly 60% during his tenure.

So fucking what?
This is a CLASSIC example of the disconnect between lefties such as

yourself

Post by Stan de SD
and people who actually have to work for a living. In your mind, the

most

Post by Stan de SD
important thing is making stands for (farmland) or against (developers)
things as they measure up to your Utopian vision. For others, it's

having a

Post by Stan de SD
place they can afford to live yet still be employable.

And that's a perfectly good argument for converting farmland to housing,
but Rep. Pombo did not do it for your personal benefit, he did it because
he was bribed by large real estate developers.

Proof?

Wrong. You obviously don't follow my posts in various ba.* NG's, where I
have become the epitome of the bunny-stomping ogre among the

self-proclaimed

Post by Stan de SD
"open space" advocates, nor has my advocacy of ending all farm subsidies
immediately made me many friends in the Midwest as of late... :O|

If he did he'd have to sort through all the twits you constantly rip
your perceived sexuality and other useless crap.

???

Disgruntled Customer

2006-10-19 00:55:59 UTC

Post by Stan de SD
Wrong. You obviously don't follow my posts in various ba.* NG's, where I
have become the epitome of the bunny-stomping ogre among the self-proclaimed
"open space" advocates, nor has my advocacy of ending all farm subsidies
immediately made me many friends in the Midwest as of late... :O|

Actually if you want to use the words 'liberal' and 'conservative' as real worlds rather than mere meaningless labels for your enemies and friends, you might realize that open space advocates are actually being conservative.

Some of us are old enough, and been around long enough, to remember when spring was announced in the Santa Clara valley with rim to rim with blossoming orchards. When they grew tomatoes between Monterey and Alamaden Expressway. When there was a farm next to Shoreline Amphitheatre. And we are sad for what has been lost.

So now it's liberals who resist change and long for the good old days?

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Stan de SD

2006-10-19 01:28:47 UTC

Post by Disgruntled Customer

Post by Stan de SD
Wrong. You obviously don't follow my posts in various ba.* NG's, where I
have become the epitome of the bunny-stomping ogre among the

self-proclaimed

Post by Disgruntled Customer

Post by Stan de SD
"open space" advocates, nor has my advocacy of ending all farm subsidies
immediately made me many friends in the Midwest as of late... :O|

Actually if you want to use the words 'liberal' and 'conservative' as real

worlds rather than mere meaningless labels for your enemies and friends, you
might realize that open space advocates are actually being conservative.

Post by Disgruntled Customer
Some of us are old enough, and been around long enough, to remember when

spring was announced in the

Post by Disgruntled Customer
Santa Clara valley with rim to rim with blossoming orchards. When they

grew tomatoes between Monterey

Post by Disgruntled Customer
and Alamaden Expressway. When there was a farm next to Shoreline

Amphitheatre. And we are sad for what has been lost.

Some of us are old enough, and long enough, to remember when people who
built houses that people wanted to buy weren't treated as villians, and
left-wing kooks weren't treated as heroes.

Post by Disgruntled Customer
So now it's liberals who resist change and long for the good old days?

I'm not defining "liberal" or "conservative" here. I'm merely using them in
the accepted sense...

Disgruntled Customer

2006-10-19 03:30:38 UTC

Post by Disgruntled Customer
So now it's liberals who resist change and long for the good old days?

I'm not defining "liberal" or "conservative" here. I'm merely using them in
the accepted sense...

As meaningless labels used only to identify political friend and foe. You almost make one believe in Whorf-Sapir.

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Stan de SD

2006-10-19 03:52:04 UTC

Post by Disgruntled Customer

Post by Disgruntled Customer
So now it's liberals who resist change and long for the good old days?

I'm not defining "liberal" or "conservative" here. I'm merely using them in
the accepted sense...

As meaningless labels used only to identify political friend and foe.

Hardly meaningless at all, since 98%+ of the people in this NG understand
the context.

Icono Clast

2006-10-19 11:34:25 UTC

Post by Disgruntled Customer
Some of us are old enough, and been around long enough, to
remember when spring was announced in the Santa Clara valley with
rim to rim with blossoming orchards . . . we are sad for what has
been lost.

O m'gawd yes! How I miss Highway 9's narrow avenue of blacktop
bough'd with blossoms!

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Stan de SD

2006-10-28 20:59:14 UTC

OK, sorry about the political post, but jeez, how can Pombo accuse a
person who never held political office of having Washington cronies?

Why would a Pombo spot be on a Bay Area
station anyway? His district is in parts of
Sacramento and Amador Counties

As well as Dublin, Livermore, and Tracy. Seen all those people driving west
on I-580 as the sun comes up? Where do you think they live, and what do you
think they listen to while they drive into the city to work?

Ciccio

2006-10-29 00:08:30 UTC

OK, sorry about the political post, but jeez, how can Pombo accuse a
person who never held political office of having Washington cronies?

Why would a Pombo spot be on a Bay Area
station anyway? His district is in parts of
Sacramento and Amador Counties

Indeed, his district includes most of the Tri-Valley and then leap frogs
south to include Morgan Hill.

Ciccio

George Grapman

2006-10-29 00:54:54 UTC

He had a spot on KCBS this afternoon.

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Douglas Berry

2006-10-29 02:45:48 UTC

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 00:08:30 GMT "Ciccio" <***@comcast.net>
said the following in ba.general and I was immediately reminded of
1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah" for some reason...

Post by Ciccio

OK, sorry about the political post, but jeez, how can Pombo accuse a
person who never held political office of having Washington cronies?

Why would a Pombo spot be on a Bay Area
station anyway? His district is in parts of
Sacramento and Amador Counties

Indeed, his district includes most of the Tri-Valley and then leap frogs
south to include Morgan Hill.

Here's a map.

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I drive that area professionally, and have seen his signs all over the
place.
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"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein

Steven

2006-10-29 03:27:01 UTC

Post by Douglas Berry
said the following in ba.general and I was immediately reminded of
1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah" for some reason...

No ferrets? No weasels, not even a lousy ground squirrel?

That's simply uncalled for. Have another pint and I'll call for it!

Douglas Berry

2006-10-29 06:09:54 UTC

On 28 Oct 2006 20:27:01 -0700 "Steven"
<***@yahoo.com> said the following in ba.general and
I was immediately reminded of 1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's
"Messiah" for some reason...

Post by Douglas Berry
said the following in ba.general and I was immediately reminded of
1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah" for some reason...

No ferrets? No weasels, not even a lousy ground squirrel?
That's simply uncalled for. Have another pint and I'll call for it!

I refuse to work with ground squirrels. Absolute divas, every one of
them.

Besides, the ferrets and weasels were in the orchestra!
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source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein

Steven

2006-10-29 08:31:23 UTC

Post by Douglas Berry
On 28 Oct 2006 20:27:01 -0700 "Steven"
I was immediately reminded of 1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's
"Messiah" for some reason...

Post by Douglas Berry
said the following in ba.general and I was immediately reminded of
1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah" for some reason...

No ferrets? No weasels, not even a lousy ground squirrel?
That's simply uncalled for. Have another pint and I'll call for it!

I refuse to work with ground squirrels. Absolute divas, every one of
them.
Besides, the ferrets and weasels were in the orchestra!

Make it a double for this guy.

2006-11-01 09:51:53 UTC