In alt.politics.usa.republican LGs Garison <W. Dubya ***@kenyatexas.net> wrote:
: "Frank Pittel" <***@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: news:guWdndXp-***@giganews.com...
: > There are a couple of reasons. They know that Cheney is telling the truth
: > and he's making dumbo look like the liar he is. The second reason is a
: > matter
: > of control. They can't allow any opinion contrary to their lies be heard.
: >
: > If you listen to the looney tune brain dead lying fascist loser lib dems
: > they're
: > attacking him personally and not addressing his message.
: Countdown: Special Comment on Dick Cheney's Speech--In the Name of God, Go!
: By Heather
: From Countdown, Keith's Special Comment after watching Dick Cheney's speech
: today. Keith takes former Vice President Cheney to task for defending the
: use of torture while refusing to accept any responsibility for his actions.
: Finally tonight, as promised, a Special Comment about Mr. Cheney's speech.
: Neurotic...
: Paranoid...
: False to fact and false to reason...
: Forever self-rationalizing...
: His inner rage at his own impotence and failure dripping from every
: word...
: And as irrational, as separated from the real world, as dishonest, as
: insane, as any terrorist...
: The former Vice President has today humiliated himself beyond redemption.
: The delusional claims he has made this day could be proved by
: documentation and first-hand testimony to be the literal truth, and still he
: himself would be wrong, because the America he sought to impose upon the
: world and upon its own citizens, the dark hateful place of Dick Cheney's own
: soul, the place he to this hour defends and to this day prefers, is a
: repudiation of all that our ancestors, all that for which our brave troops
: of 200 years ago and two minutes ago, have sacrificed and fought.
: I do have to congratulate you, Sir. No man living or dead could have
: passed the buck more often than you did in 35 minutes this morning.
: It's not your fault we water-boarded people, you said.
: It isn't torture, you said, even though it is based on 111 years of
: American military prosecutions.
: It was in the Constitution that you could do it, even if our laws told
: you, you could not.It was in the language of the 2001 military authorization
: you force-fed the Congress that you could do it, even if our international
: treaties told you, you could not.
: It produced invaluable information, you said, even though the first-hand
: witnesses, the interrogators of these beasts, said the information preceded
: the torture and ended when it began.
: It was authorized, you said, by careful legal opinion, even though the
: legal opinions were dictated by you and your cronies, and, oh by the way,
: the torture began before the legal opinions were even written.
: It was authorized, you said, and you imply even if it really wasn't, it
: was done to "only detainees of the highest intelligence value."
: It was more necessary, you said, because of the revelation of another
: program by the real villains, the New York Times, even though that
: revelation was possible because the program was detailed on the front page
: of the website of a defense department sub-contractor.
: It was all the fault of your predecessors, you said, who tried to treat
: terror as a "law enforcement problem," before you came to office and rode to
: the rescue... after you totally ignored terrorism for the first 20 percent
: of your first term and the worst attack on this nation in its history
: unfolded on **your** watch."
: 9/11 caused everyone to take a **serious second look at threats that had
: been gathering for awhile," you said today, "and enemies whose plans were
: getting bolder and more sophisticated."
: Gee, thanks for being motivated, by the deaths of nearly 3,000
: Americans, to go so far as to "take a serious second look." And thank you,
: Sir, for admitting, obviously inadvertently, that you did not take a serious
: **first** look in the seven months and 23 days between your inauguration and
: 9/11.
: For that attack, Sir, you are culpable, morally, ethically. At best you
: were guilty of malfeasance and eternally-lasting stupidity. At worst, Sir,
: in the deaths of 9/11, you are negligent.
: The circular logic, and the self-righteous sophistry, falls from a copy
: of Mr. Cheney's speech like bugs from a book on a moldy shelf. He still
: believes in "dictators like Saddam Hussein with known ties to Mideast
: terrorists." He still assumes everyone we captured is guilty without charge
: or trial, but that to prosecute law-breaking by government officials is "to
: have an incoming administration criminalize the policy decisions of its
: predecessors."
: And most sleazy of all, while calling the CIA torturers "honorable," he
: insists the grunts at Abu Ghraib were "a few sadistic prison guards (who)
: abused inmates in violation of American law, military regulations, and
: simple decency" even though -- and maybe he doesn't know we know this --
: even though there is documentary proof that those guards were acting on
: orders originating in the office of Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld.
: It is, in short, madness. Madness, Sir. Mr. Cheney, your speech was
: almost entirely about you...There are only five or six other people even
: mentioned, and only two quoted at any length.And why would you have quoted,
: as you did, the man who said this" I know that this program saved lives. I
: know we've disrupted plots. I know this program alone is worth more than the
: FBI, the Central Intelligence Agency, and the National Security Agency put
: together have been able to tell us."
: As you know, Sir, you are quoting former CIA Director George Tenet.That
: would be the George Tenet who told Congress, on February 11th, 2003,
: quote:"Iraq is harboring senior members of a terrorist network led by Abu
: Musab al-Zarqawi, a close associate of al Qaeda."
: Mr. Tenet then went into elaborate detail about the Iraq/Al-Qaeda
: connection.None of it was true.This is your source.As he was your boss's
: source."
: George, how confident are you?" President Bush asked Tenet about Saddam
: Hussein's Weapons of Mass Destruction, just before the Iraq war, according
: to Bob Woodward's book "Plan Of Attack."
: "Don't worry," Tenet answered. "It's a slam-dunk."That is your
: independent authority on how well torture worked.Next time you see him, Mr.
: Cheney, you might as well ask Mr. Tenet if he thinks he is Napoleon.
: I don't want to know who you think you are:"...those are the basic facts
: on enhanced interrogations," you concluded. "And to call this a program of
: torture is to libel the dedicated professionals who saved American lives,
: and to cast terrorists and murderers as innocent victims."
: You saved no one, Sir.
: If the classified documents you seek released really did detail plots
: other than those manufactured by drowning men in order to get it to stop, or
: if they truly did note plans beyond the laughable ones you and President
: Bush already revealed -- hijackers without passports targeting a building
: whose name Mr. Bush couldn't remember, clowns who thought they could destroy
: airports by dropping matches in fuel pipelines 30 miles away, men who
: planned to attack a military base dressed as Pizza delivery boys forgetting
: that every man there was armed, and today: the four would-be Synagogue
: bombers, one of whom turns out to keep bottles of urine in his apartment,
: and to be on schizophrenia medicine--
: If those documents contained anything of value... you would have leaked
: them already! As you leaked those revenge fantasies of the Library Tower and
: the J-F-K Bomber, and the Fort Dix Six. "When they (terrorists) see the
: American government caught up in arguments about interrogations, or whether
: foreign terrorists have constitutional rights, they don't stand back in awe
: of our legal system and wonder whether they had misjudged us all along."
: Instead the terrorists see just what they were hoping for - our unity
: gone, our resolve shaken, our leaders distracted. In short, they see
: weakness and opportunity."
: The weakness the terrorists see, Sir, is the weakness of blind rage
: replacing essential cold logic.
: The weakness the terrorists see, Sir, is the weakness of judgment
: suspended, in favor of self-fulfilling prophecy.The weakness the terrorists
: see, Sir, is the weakness of moral force supplanted by violence and revenge
: fantasies.The weakness the terrorists see, Sir, is the weakness... of Dick
: Cheney.
: And yet, still, ceaselessly, indefatigably, you moralize and lie to us.
: "I might add," someone said today, "that people who consistently distort the
: truth in this way are in no position to lecture anyone about 'values.'"
: Very apt.The quote is from your speech...Your speech, which was at
: essence, about your fantasy that you and Mr. Bush were not negligent...
: About your pig-headed certainty first that these attacks were
: impossible, then that they were a good excuse for a war you had already
: planned in Iraq, and finally that they were to be imminently repeated and
: only you knew whence the next threat would next come.
: You saved no one, Mr. Cheney.
: All you did... was help kill Americans.
: You were negligent before 9/11.
: Your response to your complicity by omission on 9/11, was panic, and
: shame, and insanity, and lying this country into a war that did nothing but
: kill 4,299 more of us.We will take no further instruction from you, Sir.
: Let me again quote Oliver Cromwell to you, Mr. Cheney:
: You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately... Depart,
: I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!
: Video: http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/media/play/wmv/8372/28331
: KO was as usual great, and I know he or his staff or both read here at c
: and elle so I need to point something out;
: Cheney is not delusional, he's lying, two different things
: Cheney knows with no doubt there was far more actionable intelligence
: obtained without torture then with
: he knows he created more terrorists by his policies
: he knows far more Americans died after 9/11 from terrorism then before
: and he knows it's his policies that created those results
: he knows torture creates more problems then it ever solves
: he knows and ordered torture to gather confessions that were not true
: Cheney is not delusional, he is a studied graduate from the strauss
: school of sociopathy and politics, as is krystol and the entire pnac, the
: students leave telling what they "call" "noble lies" to achieve their goal
: Cheney is a sociopath and a liar, not delusional
: I hope ko can do his next piece on cheney with that fact in mind
: make certain you read that link, it describes why and how all the lies
: and what to expect, one of the best links you'll likely read concerning the
: neo con strategy
: Cheney the murderer is a liar and coward running scared shitting at
: everyone just to avoid prison.
: At least George Bush has the sense to STFU.
Is this type of idiocy typical of olbi?? If so it's no wonder that only morons
and idiots watch his show.
--
-------------------
Keep working millions on welfare depend on you