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Hal Womack 3-dan
2006-12-13 00:43:11 UTC
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ROBERT FISK SPEAKS IN OAKLAND, THURSNIGHT 12/14: ALL NORCAL LERTS WILL
ATTEND?

By Hal Womack 3-dan

The notice from the event sponsor follows immediately below.

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Thu, Dec 14, 2006 7:00 pm
Robert Fisk - Iraq and Lebanon: Pointing the Finger of Guilt
First Presbyterian Church (wheelchair accessible & ASL interpreted)
2619 Broadway (at 26th Street)
Oakland

Journalist and author Robert Fisk has lived in and written about the
Middle East for more than thirty years. He is the Middle East
Correspondent for The Independent of London and the winner of numerous
journalism and human rights awards, including the 2006 Lifetime
Achievement Prize from the Lannan Foundation.

Tickets: $20, no one turned away for lack of funds**

SPECIAL RECEPTION with Robert Fisk!
Thursday, December 14, 2006, 9pm
Humanist Hall, 390 27th Street in Oakland (across from the lecture)
$50, includes priority seating at lecture.

For more information contact:
Middle East Children's Alliance
510-548-0542
***@mecaforpeace.org
www.brownpapertickets.com/event/8705
Armenian National Committee
1-800-838-3006 (tix)

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Advance Comment:

By me, the true meaning of certain old phrases have been fully
manifested only in our own time.
For example, the ancient formula of the "Benevolent Despot" seems to
have been waiting for Fidel Castro to come along. Likewise the
Britishism of "Bloody Fool" for SonnaBush. For this week's Guest of
Honor in the region of Mounts Diablo & Tam, the tag "Sly Dog" comes to
mind.

Everybody recognizes with contempt the common herd of newsclowns alias
"investigative reporters" for Big TV & its declining hard copy version
Your Daily Blatt*
(* http://sfgate.com/ )
as mere shameless lying hirelings. From Tom Friedman to Phil
Bronstein*, they'd all sell a cup of the life's blood of a murdered
girl for a quarter.
(* CHRONICLE's bias documented: http://www.ifamericansknew.org/ )
Except for the price given in this example, that's the literal truth
and the Talking Heads for OPS or the Official Propaganda System alias
the Mainstream News Media or MNM do it every day.
Or else the Jew bosses there send them the way of Phil Donahue.

So by contrast we here behold the extreme value to the imperial system
of Mr.Robert Fisk, the proverbial one out of a thousand Establishment
Journalists who enjoys even among informed observers a marked degree of
credibility and prestige. Plus he long time lives there in the freshly
cratered Biblical Land, speaks the lingo and knows whereof he speaks.
Whether he speaks whereof he knows remains to be seen.

RF's title promises us that he's going to 'Point the Finger of Guilt'
at the parties responsible for the destruction of Iraq and the invasion
of Lebanon. I certainly hope to be present myself** to check out this
most interesting performance because 'twould be the first time for me
to see a chap eat his own Guilty Finger. Also, 'tis one of my own pet
phrases.

I refer hereby to RF's consistent stance in the period from the latter
stages of the Clinton Blockade of Iraq to SonnaBush's invasion thereof
in the Spring of 2003. RF repeatedly went out of his way to paint
President Saddam Hussein in the blackest possible colors, thus covering
the critical left flank for the JINSA*
(* http://www.jinsa.org/home/home.html )
imperialists in control of the White House*
(* http://www.whitehouse.gov/ )
alias ZOG or "Zionist Occupational Government". RF's persistence in
slamming Saddam while the latter's nation was under the most severe
attack struck me particularly because I had already years earlier
floated on the Usenet the sound bite: "compared to Bush, Clinton &
Sharon on the one hand Saddam
Hussein on the other looks like Mother Teresa"(1). Google's spotty
public archiving shows the earliest Usenet date for the appearance of
this comparison as 30 March 2002, although I believe first to have
uttered it there around 1996.

Mr.Fisk's posture of outraged condemnation of the besieged
Saddam when coupled with his failure to acknowledge the far greater
crimes of the high officials of his own hyperaggressive imperial system
gives us the picture of the Sly Dog wearing the most useful cloak of
Intrepid Investigator and Fearless Critic.

Duty Lerts will also have noticed that a few months ago RF indignantly
denied the false charges of a Jewpack in Australia which had shrilly
accused him of telling the truth about the 9/11 Stunt, to wit, that the
authors were Aerial Shaboom and Hank the K rather than Osama "Raghead"
Bin Laden in his faraway mountain cave.

The bald-headed bearded one with suspenders in the pew cupping his old
ear to catch every precious word falling from the lips of the Famous
Writer.

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(1.)
{let us
acknowledge that our working hypothesis must be that the same party
which
masterminded the bombing of the Oklahoma City Federal Building on
4/19/'95 also
concocted that TV commercial of the millennium for the JAM alias
"Jewish
AMerican Empire" which we know as 9/11. We can express this perception
as
911/262
the last three digits above designating the edgiest Israeli commando
unit, as
the turncoat journalist Seymour Hersh has so deftly reminded us.
Consequently we are ready to respond to blood-thirsty shriekers of the
Mogen David that compared to Bush, Clinton & Sharon on the one hand
Saddam
Hussein on the other looks like Mother Teresa. Well, anyway, I am ready
to
so to respond. Again.
The purpose under Heaven of the suffering of the Arab peoples during
this last long decade has been forcefully to expose to the gaze of
humanity the
profound corruption of the learned professions & other ruling
institutions of
JAM alias the "Western World", formerly known as Christendom. Those
leaders such
as Denis Halliday, Hans von Sponeck, Francis Boyle, Kathy Kelly, John
Pilger,
John Paul II and Louis Farrakhan who have stood up strongly in defense
of the
perishing mothers and children of ancient Babylon have in so doing
pointed the
way forward for our whole species.}

From: "Sitting on the Dock of the Bay"
Date: Fri, May 24 2002 4:03 am
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Steven
2006-12-13 01:37:14 UTC
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Hal Womack 3-dan wrote:

Did you get kicked off MySpace?
Hal Womack 3-dan
2006-12-13 03:33:30 UTC
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http://www.myspace.com/halwomack

My left-handed thanks to Fake Steven le Churl for reminding me A) to
post the link and B) to wonder whether 'tis any harder than ordinary to
find MySpace for this writer than for other account holders there when
one searches sans link.

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Post by Steven
Did you get kicked off MySpace?
Just another JJ 3-Sheets to DeWind
2006-12-13 07:39:02 UTC
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Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
http://www.myspace.com/halwomack
My left-handed thanks to Fake Steven le Churl for reminding me A) to
post the link and B) to wonder whether 'tis any harder than ordinary to
find MySpace for this writer than for other account holders there when
one searches sans link.
What do you MEAN, "left hand"?? I thought all you washed-up
Anti-Semetic bus drivers use your RIGHT hand to shoot kids & "Sieg
Heil" with???

feh

PS kindly leave ba.broadcast out of your insipid cross-posts, or expect
further taunts & questions regarding your sanity and/or criminal past,
you, you, you...or is it "joo"?? ;)
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
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Post by Steven
Did you get kicked off MySpace?
Steven
2006-12-13 11:00:23 UTC
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Post by Just another JJ 3-Sheets to DeWind
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
http://www.myspace.com/halwomack
My left-handed thanks to Fake Steven le Churl for reminding me A) to
post the link and B) to wonder whether 'tis any harder than ordinary to
find MySpace for this writer than for other account holders there when
one searches sans link.
What do you MEAN, "left hand"?? I thought all you washed-up
Anti-Semetic bus drivers use your RIGHT hand to shoot kids & "Sieg
Heil" with???
feh
PS kindly leave ba.broadcast out of your insipid cross-posts, or expect
further taunts & questions regarding your sanity and/or criminal past,
you, you, you...or is it "joo"?? ;)
I just figured if they were canning the predators there was he next.
Post by Just another JJ 3-Sheets to DeWind
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
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Post by Steven
Did you get kicked off MySpace?
Hal Womack 3-dan
2006-12-13 14:58:30 UTC
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Thread-originating title restored from: Nomination for KOTM: Hal Womack
"3-dan"

The extreme virulence of the nameless Jewish murderers guarding the
cesspool of "ba.broadcast"
calls attention to the importance of the newsgroup.

BTW "Iraq" shows 531 gits or "Google Hits" on "ba.broadcast" and
"Lebanon" shows 35.
Robert Fisk = the premier journalist on the Planet in the English
language on this region (WADRT or With All Due Respect To my friend
Israel Shamir in Jaffa). The complainants are allergic to the truth
being presented here out of fear of their own guilty consciences.

I note in passing the suppression of the appearance on Tuesnight at the
Womens' Building of the heroic & talented young Palestinian photo
journalist Mohammed Omer.

The utterly shameless shriekers below bubble up from under the water
line in the toilet bowl. How long will we normal alias "gentile"
law-enforcing folk continue to leave such debased life forms as these
Pelosi-Lantos-Bush clones in control of our key institutions?

King Of the Mountain, yah. Will any of these twits dare to point to its
own website?

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Post by Steven
Post by Just another JJ 3-Sheets to DeWind
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
http://www.myspace.com/halwomack
My left-handed thanks to Fake Steven le Churl for reminding me A) to
post the link and B) to wonder whether 'tis any harder than ordinary to
find MySpace for this writer than for other account holders there when
one searches sans link.
What do you MEAN, "left hand"?? I thought all you washed-up
Anti-Semetic bus drivers use your RIGHT hand to shoot kids & "Sieg
Heil" with???
feh
PS kindly leave ba.broadcast out of your insipid cross-posts, or expect
further taunts & questions regarding your sanity and/or criminal past,
you, you, you...or is it "joo"?? ;)
I just figured if they were canning the predators there was he next.
Post by Just another JJ 3-Sheets to DeWind
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
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Post by Steven
Did you get kicked off MySpace?
Hal Womack 3-dan
2006-12-13 21:50:32 UTC
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FISK IN L.A. 12/15

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http://www.anca.org/press_releases/press_releases.php?prid=1033

PRESS RELEASE

For Immediate Release ~ 2006-12-13
Contact: Lerna Kayserian ~ Tel: (818) 500-1918

World Renowned Journalist and Author Robert Fisk to Speak in Los
Angeles

NORTHRIDGE, CA --- Robert Fisk, world renowned author of several books
about the Middle East and foreign correspondent for one of the United
Kingdom's leading newspapers, The Independent , will speak at
California State University, Northridge (CSUN) about his latest book,
"The Great War for Civilisation." Fisk will discuss some of the
issues addressed in his book about contemporary conflicts in the Middle
East region and their historical roots. The lecture will take place at
the University Student Union's Grand Salon on Friday, December 15, 2006
at 7:30 p.m.

The event is co-hosted by the Armenian National Committee of
America-Western Region (ANCA-WR) and the United Human Rights Council
(UHRC), along with the CSUN Armenian Studies Program, the Armenian
Student Association, Alpha Epsilon Omega fraternity, and Alpha Gamma
Alpha sorority.

"Fisk's unique insight as someone on the ground with in-depth knowledge
of these conflicts makes him one of the most engaging speakers in the
field," noted Haig Hovsepian, Community Relations Director for the
ANCA-WR. "Fisk is known for speaking his mind and will undoubtedly
address difficult issues at the intersection of American and European
foreign policy and the various cultures and interests at play in the
Middle East."

Of particular interest to the Armenian American community, Fisk is one
of the world's best known journalists and has distinguished himself in
his effort to inform the world about the Armenian Genocide. In his
latest book, "The Great War for Civilisation," Fisk dedicates an
entire chapter to the Armenian Genocide, which he titles "The First
Holocaust." He provides the historical details of the genocide, reveals
interviews with survivors in Lebanon, and decries the Turkish and U.S.
governments' complicity in genocide denial today.

"The 20th century was one of great violence and repeatedly marked by
human rights abuses and genocide," commented Chris Yemenidjian, Chair
of the UHRC. "We look forward to Mr. Fisk's analysis of the root causes
of today's contemporary conflicts."

"Mr. Fisk provides a valuable voice for cultural awareness and human
rights," noted Terenig Topjian, President of the CSUN ASA. "As the
university is home to the sharing of ideas as well as the subsequent
growth and progress they inspire, we are proud to be co-hosting him at
CSUN."

The event will be preceded by a 7pm reception for the author at the
Grand Salon. Both the reception and the event are free and open to the
public. Seating is limited and the author will entertain questions
following his presentation. There will also be a book-signing
opportunity immediately following the lecture. Books will be available
for purchase at the event.

The ANCA is the largest and most influential Armenian American
grassroots political organization. Working in coordination with a
network of offices, chapters, and supporters throughout the United
States and affiliated organizations around the world, the ANCA actively
advances the concerns of the Armenian-American community on a broad
range of issues.
Steven
2006-12-14 01:07:30 UTC
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No Jews or electrons were harmed in the transmission of the preceding
message. Animal testing was not employed. This message is organic but I
don't know whose dumb Tilth Laws apply or maybe I paid a politician to
be able to lie about this. No pages were sexually compromised during
any attempted bribe(s).

How sort of refreshing was that?
Hal Womack 3-dan
2006-12-14 03:27:25 UTC
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THREE QUESTIONS FOR ROBERT FISK:

1.) Are you willing to appeal to the appropriate authorities to lift
the death sentence against President Saddam Hussein?

2.) How many chances out of 100 that the Jews, rather than the Arabs,
were behind the 9/11 attacks in the United States?
(More specifically: That Ariel Sharon, with the consent of Henry
Kissinger, gave the order for the execution of the stunt by the
_sayeret matkal_ or General Staff Scouts of the Israeli army, unit
#262.)

3.) As of last March, Hans-Christof Graf von Sponeck, estimated that
the USGov had murdered some 2,000,000 Iraqi civilians in the last 15
years. He further affirmed that we, the law-enforcing people of Earth,
should arrest and try on war crimes charges the high officials and
their accomplices who are guilty of conspiring to wage this war of
aggression. As you know, Mr. von Sponeck is a former Assistant
Secretary General of the U.N. and was in charge of the humanitarian
relief office in Baghdad during the blockade levied by the Clinton
Administration.
How do you evaluate this weighty proposition of his?
Steven
2006-12-14 05:31:47 UTC
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Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
1.) Are you willing to appeal to the appropriate authorities to lift
the death sentence against President Saddam Hussein?
And you believe the religious sectarian violence wouldn't take him out
anyway? He means little to either side but killing an 'embarrassment'
is part of 'cleanup' traditionally. He couldn't hold a candle to the
mess that followed his ouster even if he were reinstated.
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
2.) How many chances out of 100 that the Jews, rather than the Arabs,
were behind the 9/11 attacks in the United States?
(More specifically: That Ariel Sharon, with the consent of Henry
Kissinger, gave the order for the execution of the stunt by the
_sayeret matkal_ or General Staff Scouts of the Israeli army, unit
#262.)
I'd say you should exhume Nixon and Brehznev and consult them, then
join a twelve step group.
Post by Hal Womack 3-dan
3.) As of last March, Hans-Christof Graf von Sponeck, estimated that
the USGov had murdered some 2,000,000 Iraqi civilians in the last 15
years. He further affirmed that we, the law-enforcing people of Earth,
should arrest and try on war crimes charges the high officials and
their accomplices who are guilty of conspiring to wage this war of
aggression. As you know, Mr. von Sponeck is a former Assistant
Secretary General of the U.N. and was in charge of the humanitarian
relief office in Baghdad during the blockade levied by the Clinton
Administration.
How do you evaluate this weighty proposition of his?
The United Nations might be the only thing more deluded than the
poster. How can you be so fully against the Jews and seek UN help when
the UN created Israel in the first place? Might you remember how Great
Britain had many reservations about ceding Palestine to become the bulk
of the state of Israel? Good, bad or otherwise how do you think such a
weak organization of late will accomplish anything other than 'looking
good and right' while violating their own agreements and running amok
causing scandal?

For whatever reasons the state of Iraq is falling apart rapidly. I
think this should continue to it's ultimate end instead of simply
festering and growing worse. THEY want to fight each other to determine
their destiny. We are remiss to stop them after encouraging them to do
that in the first place.

You cannot see fit to place blame with any specific US government
official either. You stay rather vague in that respect, while on the
other hand criticizing Sharon but not Rabin or any other Israeli
government leader, past or present.

You create a lot of nice sounding conspiracies with no
connection/correlation to back it all up.

And DON'T call me a 'Joo' whatever. I have no qualms with religions but
I don't believe such crap, I'm of German background and a former United
Methodist.
Stan de SD
2006-12-23 18:30:19 UTC
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Post by Steven
No Jews or electrons were harmed in the transmission of the preceding
message. Animal testing was not employed. This message is organic but I
don't know whose dumb Tilth Laws apply or maybe I paid a politician to
be able to lie about this. No pages were sexually compromised during
any attempted bribe(s).
How sort of refreshing was that?
I'm telling you, Stevie - you need to get in touch with Bill Watterson. You
could fill in on the Zippy Pinhead comix while he's doing his Burning Man
gig every year... :O|
Steven
2006-12-24 00:37:59 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Post by Steven
No Jews or electrons were harmed in the transmission of the preceding
message. Animal testing was not employed. This message is organic but I
don't know whose dumb Tilth Laws apply or maybe I paid a politician to
be able to lie about this. No pages were sexually compromised during
any attempted bribe(s).
How sort of refreshing was that?
I'm telling you, Stevie - you need to get in touch with Bill Watterson. You
could fill in on the Zippy Pinhead comix while he's doing his Burning Man
gig every year... :O|
I can hardly type.
Steven
2006-12-24 02:55:45 UTC
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Post by Steven
Post by Stan de SD
Post by Steven
No Jews or electrons were harmed in the transmission of the preceding
message. Animal testing was not employed. This message is organic but I
don't know whose dumb Tilth Laws apply or maybe I paid a politician to
be able to lie about this. No pages were sexually compromised during
any attempted bribe(s).
How sort of refreshing was that?
I'm telling you, Stevie - you need to get in touch with Bill Watterson. You
could fill in on the Zippy Pinhead comix while he's doing his Burning Man
gig every year... :O|
I can hardly type.
I can hardly understand Zippy either.

Did I say I have no drawing skills?

BTW I'm not going to be at my folks this year either. Hope that damned
turkey thaws.

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