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Biden's Vanquished Proclamation, "We Are Safer" is based on Politics.......
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MioMyo
2009-04-08 12:23:57 UTC
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Notice this idiot didn't quote General Petraeus or any other military and/or
credible source.

Oh well. he make his brain-dead leftist lemming following fell all warm and
fuzzy, so all other considerations and facts are irrelevant.....

Or maybe he based his uninformed opinion on the basis that bamby did his
level best to suck the king's dick!

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jd4KxcvoCqTzTae-Tw9LhnWYfgKQD97DSB580

Biden says Cheney 'dead wrong' on security policy

WASHINGTON (AP) - Vice President Joe Biden said Tuesday his predecessor,
Dick Cheney, is "dead wrong" when he says President Barack Obama's national
security policies are making the United States less safe. Biden said the
exact opposite is true and added that President George W. Bush's vice
president was part of a dysfunctional decision-making system.

"I don't think he is out of line, but he is dead wrong. ... The last
administration left us in a weaker posture than we've been any time since
World War II: less regarded in the world, stretched more thinly than we ever
have been in the past, two wars under way, virtually no respect in entire
parts of the world," Biden said. "And so we've been about the business of
repairing and strengthening those. I guarantee you we are safer today, our
interests are more secure today than they were any time during the eight
years" of the Bush administration.

Since becoming president, Obama has ordered the closing of the U.S. military
prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and banned certain interrogation methods for
suspected terrorists.

Cheney last month said the Bush administration programs involving suspected
terrorists were critically important and overturning them had made the
country less safe.

"I think those programs were absolutely essential to the success we enjoyed
of being able to collect the intelligence that let us defeat all further
attempts to launch attacks against the United States since 9/11," Cheney
said.

"I think that's a great success story. It was done legally. It was done in
accordance with our constitutional practices and principles," he said.
"President Obama campaigned against it all across the country. And now he is
making some choices that, in my mind, will, in fact, raise the risk to the
American people of another attack," Cheney said.

Biden said he and Obama are working to repair the United States' reputation,
which was damaged abroad by the unpopular 2003 invasion of Iraq. He also
said Obama's team is working together, unlike Bush's.

"Look, everybody talks about how powerful Cheney was," Biden said. "His
power weakened America, in my view. Here's what I mean by that. What I mean
by that was, there was a divided government."

He said Cheney had his own sort of national security council and there was
the actual National Security Council.

"There was (Secretary of State Colin) Powell, who didn't agree with Cheney,"
Biden said, "and Cheney off with (Defense Secretary Donald) Rumsfeld."

Biden promoted Obama's administration as more conducive to better decision
making.

"The strength of this administration is that the president and I work in
concert. I am very straightforward in my views. I am as strong - I hold them
as strongly as I ever have."

But he said those decisions are made with one National Security Council, "a
united national security team."

Biden was interviewed on CNN's "The Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer."
M***@dick.com
2009-04-08 13:08:25 UTC
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On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 05:23:57 -0700, "MioMyo"
Post by MioMyo
Notice this idiot didn't quote General Petraeus or any other military and/or
credible source.
Petraeus took credit for what warring Iraqi factions
started doin't themselves.

ANY military commander given the go-ahead to commit
more force could have "achieved" what he did.

But NOT without the aid of Iraqis segregating
themselves into separate enclaves.
MioMyo
2009-04-09 12:23:32 UTC
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Post by M***@dick.com
On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 05:23:57 -0700, "MioMyo"
Post by MioMyo
Notice this idiot didn't quote General Petraeus or any other military and/or
credible source.
Petraeus took credit for what warring Iraqi factions
started doin't themselves.
You're citing Move-On and the Daily-Kos sources.

I'm citing HISTORICAL FACT........
Post by M***@dick.com
ANY military commander given the go-ahead to commit
more force could have "achieved" what he did.
Really, do tell us about your military leadership credencials lib. Plus the
tactics employed by Petraeus were more than nimbers, but a moron like you
wouldn't know dittlely shit about such matters.
Post by M***@dick.com
But NOT without the aid of Iraqis segregating
themselves into separate enclaves.
I bet you also credit Gorby with ending the cold war and not the real hero
Ronald Reagan....
GOP Disasters
2009-04-08 13:25:15 UTC
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Post by MioMyo
Notice this idiot didn't quote General Petraeus or any other military
and/or credible source.
Oh well. he make his brain-dead leftist lemming following fell all warm
and fuzzy, so all other considerations and facts are irrelevant.....
Or maybe he based his uninformed opinion on the basis that bamby did his
level best to suck the king's dick!
Looks like Meow-Meow, FOX/Rush/Al-Qaeda is loading their guns and firing
toward Obama. What a joke! Your malicious attacks on Obama are not advancing
the flunky GOP position in the minds of the american people at all. You
don't have a message, just like all of the other robotron hicks of the Fox
Noise Nation, you simply want to protect your elitist pals from paying their
taxes. repug hypocrisy is complete, eh?
MioMyo
2009-04-09 12:30:42 UTC
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Post by GOP Disasters
Post by MioMyo
Notice this idiot didn't quote General Petraeus or any other military
and/or credible source.
Oh well. he make his brain-dead leftist lemming following fell all warm
and fuzzy, so all other considerations and facts are irrelevant.....
Or maybe he based his uninformed opinion on the basis that bamby did his
level best to suck the king's dick!
Looks like Meow-Meow, FOX/Rush/Al-Qaeda is loading their guns and firing
toward Obama. What a joke! Your malicious attacks on Obama are not
advancing the flunky GOP position in the minds of the american people at
all. You don't have a message, just like all of the other robotron hicks
of the Fox Noise Nation, you simply want to protect your elitist pals from
paying their taxes. repug hypocrisy is complete, eh?
Tell us you sanctimonious hypocrite how 8-years of Bush bashing propaganda
made any advances in the human condition. And now all you morons can do is
whine about legitimate debate and issues raised by your messiah's
opponents.....

GFY.....
Spink_Budvorm
2009-04-11 00:09:09 UTC
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Post by MioMyo
Tell us you sanctimonious hypocrite how 8-years of Bush bashing propaganda
made any advances in the human condition.
We kept telling you LOSERS that with Bush you were being governed by a
congenital liar and a perpetual Loser, who had murderous and treasonous
ambitions.

Your response was to support every traitorous act, and every lie that was
told, and now with your nation collapsing before your very eyes, you demand
to know what was done to prevent you from committing suicide.

Ahahahahahah......... Death is too good for you.
MioMyo
2009-04-11 02:00:32 UTC
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Post by Spink_Budvorm
Post by MioMyo
Tell us you sanctimonious hypocrite how 8-years of Bush bashing propaganda
made any advances in the human condition.
We kept telling you LOSERS that with Bush you were being governed by a
congenital liar and a perpetual Loser, who had murderous and treasonous
ambitions.
Yes... yes... everyone heard you talking, but when did you ever respond back
with any proof of your claims when challenged to do so?

All you whiners ever screamed about was impeachment, so what happened with
that bitch? Now you're screaming criminal trial....

ROFLMFAO......

I spit in your face tard cause your wet dreams will never come true,
bitch.................
Post by Spink_Budvorm
Your response was to support every traitorous act, and every lie that was
told, and now with your nation collapsing before your very eyes, you
demand to know what was done to prevent you from committing suicide.
You are the traitor, kunt. You make charges you can't back up. Oh how your
fascist brethern of last century would be proud of you.......
Post by Spink_Budvorm
Ahahahahahah......... Death is too good for you.
You're welcome to come exact punishment, coward............
Frank Pittel
2009-04-11 03:38:25 UTC
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In alt.politics.usa.republican MioMyo <***@somewhere.com> wrote:

: "Spink_Budvorm" <***@earthlink.net> wrote in message
: news:zcRDl.31932$***@read2.cgocable.net...
: >
: > "MioMyo" <***@Somewhere.com> wrote
: >> Tell us you sanctimonious hypocrite how 8-years of Bush bashing
: >> propaganda
: >> made any advances in the human condition.
: >
: > We kept telling you LOSERS that with Bush you were being governed by a
: > congenital liar and a perpetual Loser, who had murderous and treasonous
: > ambitions.

: Yes... yes... everyone heard you talking, but when did you ever respond back
: with any proof of your claims when challenged to do so?

: All you whiners ever screamed about was impeachment, so what happened with
: that bitch? Now you're screaming criminal trial....

: ROFLMFAO......

: I spit in your face tard cause your wet dreams will never come true,
: bitch.................

You need to remember that spink is a child.
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Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
MioMyo
2009-04-11 13:47:11 UTC
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Post by Frank Pittel
: >
: >> Tell us you sanctimonious hypocrite how 8-years of Bush bashing
: >> propaganda
: >> made any advances in the human condition.
: >
: > We kept telling you LOSERS that with Bush you were being governed by a
: > congenital liar and a perpetual Loser, who had murderous and treasonous
: > ambitions.
: Yes... yes... everyone heard you talking, but when did you ever respond back
: with any proof of your claims when challenged to do so?
: All you whiners ever screamed about was impeachment, so what happened with
: that bitch? Now you're screaming criminal trial....
: ROFLMFAO......
: I spit in your face tard cause your wet dreams will never come true,
: bitch.................
You need to remember that spink is a child.
--
I figure that half of these liberal minded posters are indeed 15-years and
under; however, more reason for them to learn when they play in the big pond
they need to put out some proof of their nonsense or get their puny asses
kicked. Obviously they never had their mouth washed out for lying before now
which is why my doing so is nothing short of a public service.....
Spink_Budvorm
2009-04-11 06:36:36 UTC
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Post by MioMyo
All you whiners ever screamed about was impeachment, so what happened with
that bitch? Now you're screaming criminal trial....
Fortunately RepubliKKKan criminals are no longer in power.
Spink_Budvorm
2009-04-11 06:38:36 UTC
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Post by MioMyo
I spit in your face tard cause your wet dreams will never come true,
bitch.................
Only someone from the planet of ConservaDopia would think that they can
spit on anyone through usenet.

You Moronic Losers really do think the internet is a series of tubes,
don't you?

MOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSS
Frank Pittel
2009-04-08 13:46:15 UTC
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Tell that to the American sailors being held hostage by the somli pirates.


In alt.politics.usa.republican MioMyo <***@somewhere.com> wrote:
: Notice this idiot didn't quote General Petraeus or any other military and/or
: credible source.

: Oh well. he make his brain-dead leftist lemming following fell all warm and
: fuzzy, so all other considerations and facts are irrelevant.....

: Or maybe he based his uninformed opinion on the basis that bamby did his
: level best to suck the king's dick!

: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jd4KxcvoCqTzTae-Tw9LhnWYfgKQD97DSB580

: Biden says Cheney 'dead wrong' on security policy

: WASHINGTON (AP) - Vice President Joe Biden said Tuesday his predecessor,
: Dick Cheney, is "dead wrong" when he says President Barack Obama's national
: security policies are making the United States less safe. Biden said the
: exact opposite is true and added that President George W. Bush's vice
: president was part of a dysfunctional decision-making system.

: "I don't think he is out of line, but he is dead wrong. ... The last
: administration left us in a weaker posture than we've been any time since
: World War II: less regarded in the world, stretched more thinly than we ever
: have been in the past, two wars under way, virtually no respect in entire
: parts of the world," Biden said. "And so we've been about the business of
: repairing and strengthening those. I guarantee you we are safer today, our
: interests are more secure today than they were any time during the eight
: years" of the Bush administration.

: Since becoming president, Obama has ordered the closing of the U.S. military
: prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and banned certain interrogation methods for
: suspected terrorists.

: Cheney last month said the Bush administration programs involving suspected
: terrorists were critically important and overturning them had made the
: country less safe.

: "I think those programs were absolutely essential to the success we enjoyed
: of being able to collect the intelligence that let us defeat all further
: attempts to launch attacks against the United States since 9/11," Cheney
: said.

: "I think that's a great success story. It was done legally. It was done in
: accordance with our constitutional practices and principles," he said.
: "President Obama campaigned against it all across the country. And now he is
: making some choices that, in my mind, will, in fact, raise the risk to the
: American people of another attack," Cheney said.

: Biden said he and Obama are working to repair the United States' reputation,
: which was damaged abroad by the unpopular 2003 invasion of Iraq. He also
: said Obama's team is working together, unlike Bush's.

: "Look, everybody talks about how powerful Cheney was," Biden said. "His
: power weakened America, in my view. Here's what I mean by that. What I mean
: by that was, there was a divided government."

: He said Cheney had his own sort of national security council and there was
: the actual National Security Council.

: "There was (Secretary of State Colin) Powell, who didn't agree with Cheney,"
: Biden said, "and Cheney off with (Defense Secretary Donald) Rumsfeld."

: Biden promoted Obama's administration as more conducive to better decision
: making.

: "The strength of this administration is that the president and I work in
: concert. I am very straightforward in my views. I am as strong - I hold them
: as strongly as I ever have."

: But he said those decisions are made with one National Security Council, "a
: united national security team."

: Biden was interviewed on CNN's "The Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer."

:
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Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
GOP Disasters
2009-04-08 15:00:27 UTC
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Post by Frank Pittel
Tell that to the American sailors being held hostage by the somli pirates.
Somali pirates? George Bush SR. attacked Somalia 4 weeks before Clinton was
inauguated.
For nothing. It was a republican gift to Clinton.

Caribbean pirates have been a bigger threat since the 1960's.
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