New York Times Obama's "Kill Pirates" Timeline

[MioMyo]

Why didn't bamby give authorization from the beginning when the Navy got
involved to kill these pirates once an opportunity presented itself?

Why did bamby wait for several days holding the Navy at bay?

And why does the NYT bury this fact deep in the story, knowing full well a
majority of readers either glance through the headlines and/or read the
first few paragraphs?

Shilling for their messiah, bamby, that's obviously the answer to the last
question.


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/13/world/africa/13pirates.html?_r=2&hp

The Defense Department twice sought Mr. Obama's permission to use force to
rescue Captain Phillips, most recently on Friday night, senior defense
officials said. On Saturday morning, the president agreed, they said, if it
appeared that the captain's life was in imminent danger.

[MioMyo]

Post by MioMyo
Why didn't bamby give authorization from the beginning when the Navy got
involved to kill these pirates once an opportunity presented itself?

Normal and rational human beings try to find a diplomatic solution to
such problems. Only when there are really no possibilities left do
they use violence.
That's probably too much to understand for you.

You are a tard of monumental proportions. Would you suggest the same course
of action when dealing with a bank robber?

After all both pirates and bank robbers typically employ violence in their
criminal livelihood venires. Also by following your solution, both
circumstames could be negotiated by giving in to the demands of the
criminals.

Anyway, I was sure you were going to find something to say about Obama
even if it worked out.
What less can we expect from a racist cunt like you...?

You can't answer the question why bamby held the Navy at bay until Saturday
morn, days later.

You also don't want to know if the Navy could have made the same rescue had
bamby given the authorization previously when the captain tried escaping
himself.

[sid9]

Post by MioMyo

On 13 Apr., 18:10, "MioMyo"

Post by MioMyo
Why didn't bamby give authorization from the
beginning when the Navy got
involved to kill these pirates once an
opportunity presented itself?

Normal and rational human beings try to find a
diplomatic solution to
such problems. Only when there are really no
possibilities left do
they use violence.
That's probably too much to understand for you.

You are a tard of monumental proportions. Would
you suggest the same course of action when
dealing with a bank robber?
After all both pirates and bank robbers
typically employ violence in their criminal
livelihood venires. Also by following your
solution, both circumstames could be negotiated
by giving in to the demands of the criminals.

Anyway, I was sure you were going to find
something to say about Obama
even if it worked out.
What less can we expect from a racist cunt like
you...?

You can't answer the question why bamby held the
Navy at bay until Saturday morn, days later.
You also don't want to know if the Navy could
have made the same rescue had bamby given the
authorization previously when the captain tried
escaping himself.

The incident was handled flawlessly.
You are desperate to find fault.

Every success Obama has drives you loonies further
off the deep end!

[Bill Z.]

message

Post by MioMyo
You can't answer the question why bamby held the
Navy at bay until Saturday morn, days later.
You also don't want to know if the Navy could
have made the same rescue had bamby given the
authorization previously when the captain tried
escaping himself.

The incident was handled flawlessly.
You are desperate to find fault.
Every success Obama has drives you loonies further
off the deep end!

Unlike our former "mission accomplished" president who declared
victory prematurely, Obama simply made gracious comments about various
individuals and said basically nothing about the pirates, who will no
doubt be treated like other common criminals. He did not boast about
it or draw lines in the sand (or in this case, buoys in the ocean),
thereby giving those pirates more status than they deserve.

As to waiting for a week, they were apparently negotiating with the
pirates like the police do when some group has a hostage, and Navy
personnel shot some of the pirates only when it looked like they might
actually shoot their captive in the next few seconds.

Just sitting there quietly and waiting may not appeal to your
stereotypical Macho American (TM), but it is worth it to increase the
chance of getting the captive out unharmed, which is what happened.
All the decisions seemed to be geared towards minimizing the risk to
the pirates' captive. I.e., it was handled professionally and for
the benefit of an American citizen, not for the benefit of politicians
in search of photo opportunities and sound bites.

[Frank Pittel]

In alt.politics.usa.republican Bill Z. <***@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
: "sid9" <***@bellsouth.net> writes:

: > "MioMyo" <***@Somewhere.com> wrote in
: > message

: >> You can't answer the question why bamby held the
: >> Navy at bay until Saturday morn, days later.
: >>
: >> You also don't want to know if the Navy could
: >> have made the same rescue had bamby given the
: >> authorization previously when the captain tried
: >> escaping himself.
: >
: > The incident was handled flawlessly.
: > You are desperate to find fault.
: >
: > Every success Obama has drives you loonies further
: > off the deep end!

: Unlike our former "mission accomplished" president who declared
: victory prematurely, Obama simply made gracious comments about various
: individuals and said basically nothing about the pirates, who will no
: doubt be treated like other common criminals. He did not boast about
: it or draw lines in the sand (or in this case, buoys in the ocean),
: thereby giving those pirates more status than they deserve.

: As to waiting for a week, they were apparently negotiating with the
: pirates like the police do when some group has a hostage, and Navy
: personnel shot some of the pirates only when it looked like they might
: actually shoot their captive in the next few seconds.

: Just sitting there quietly and waiting may not appeal to your
: stereotypical Macho American (TM), but it is worth it to increase the
: chance of getting the captive out unharmed, which is what happened.
: All the decisions seemed to be geared towards minimizing the risk to
: the pirates' captive. I.e., it was handled professionally and for
: the benefit of an American citizen, not for the benefit of politicians
: in search of photo opportunities and sound bites.

Bush isn't president anymore, dumbo is. I don't remember any hijacking of ships
flying an American flag for ~25 years.

[Bill Z.]

Post by Frank Pittel
: > message
: >> You can't answer the question why bamby held the
: >> Navy at bay until Saturday morn, days later.
: >>
: >> You also don't want to know if the Navy could
: >> have made the same rescue had bamby given the
: >> authorization previously when the captain tried
: >> escaping himself.
: >
: > The incident was handled flawlessly.
: > You are desperate to find fault.
: >
: > Every success Obama has drives you loonies further
: > off the deep end!
: Unlike our former "mission accomplished" president who declared
: victory prematurely, Obama simply made gracious comments about various
: individuals and said basically nothing about the pirates, who will no
: doubt be treated like other common criminals. He did not boast about
: it or draw lines in the sand (or in this case, buoys in the ocean),
: thereby giving those pirates more status than they deserve.
: As to waiting for a week, they were apparently negotiating with the
: pirates like the police do when some group has a hostage, and Navy
: personnel shot some of the pirates only when it looked like they might
: actually shoot their captive in the next few seconds.
: Just sitting there quietly and waiting may not appeal to your
: stereotypical Macho American (TM), but it is worth it to increase the
: chance of getting the captive out unharmed, which is what happened.
: All the decisions seemed to be geared towards minimizing the risk to
: the pirates' captive. I.e., it was handled professionally and for
: the benefit of an American citizen, not for the benefit of politicians
: in search of photo opportunities and sound bites.
Bush isn't president anymore, dumbo is. I don't remember any
hijacking of ships flying an American flag for ~25 years.

Infantile name calling just makes you look like an idiot. So does
your complaint about one merely pointing out the difference in the
way issues are being handled.

As for the recent "hijacking", all they managed to get control of for
any period of time (about a week) was a lifeboat, but in any case
everyone knows there is a piracy problem in that area right now and
the pirates are equal-opportunity when it comes to selecting a ship to
board.

It appears to drive you right-wing loons crazy. Would you have
preferred to have some Americans killed so you'd have something to
complain about?

[Frank Pittel]

In alt.politics.usa.republican Bill Z. <***@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
: Frank Pittel <***@warlock.deepthought.com> writes:

: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Bill Z. <***@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
: > : "sid9" <***@bellsouth.net> writes:
: >
: > : > "MioMyo" <***@Somewhere.com> wrote in
: > : > message
: >
: > : >> You can't answer the question why bamby held the
: > : >> Navy at bay until Saturday morn, days later.
: > : >>
: > : >> You also don't want to know if the Navy could
: > : >> have made the same rescue had bamby given the
: > : >> authorization previously when the captain tried
: > : >> escaping himself.
: > : >
: > : > The incident was handled flawlessly.
: > : > You are desperate to find fault.
: > : >
: > : > Every success Obama has drives you loonies further
: > : > off the deep end!
: >
: > : Unlike our former "mission accomplished" president who declared
: > : victory prematurely, Obama simply made gracious comments about various
: > : individuals and said basically nothing about the pirates, who will no
: > : doubt be treated like other common criminals. He did not boast about
: > : it or draw lines in the sand (or in this case, buoys in the ocean),
: > : thereby giving those pirates more status than they deserve.
: >
: > : As to waiting for a week, they were apparently negotiating with the
: > : pirates like the police do when some group has a hostage, and Navy
: > : personnel shot some of the pirates only when it looked like they might
: > : actually shoot their captive in the next few seconds.
: >
: > : Just sitting there quietly and waiting may not appeal to your
: > : stereotypical Macho American (TM), but it is worth it to increase the
: > : chance of getting the captive out unharmed, which is what happened.
: > : All the decisions seemed to be geared towards minimizing the risk to
: > : the pirates' captive. I.e., it was handled professionally and for
: > : the benefit of an American citizen, not for the benefit of politicians
: > : in search of photo opportunities and sound bites.
: >
: > Bush isn't president anymore, dumbo is. I don't remember any
: > hijacking of ships flying an American flag for ~25 years.

: Infantile name calling just makes you look like an idiot. So does
: your complaint about one merely pointing out the difference in the
: way issues are being handled.

Awwww pouwww baby got his fewwings hurt. Grow up loser.

: As for the recent "hijacking", all they managed to get control of for
: any period of time (about a week) was a lifeboat, but in any case
: everyone knows there is a piracy problem in that area right now and
: the pirates are equal-opportunity when it comes to selecting a ship to
: board.

The first time anyone even tried in ~25 years. The dimwit bidden was right
dumbo got tested right away as president. It's to bad for the US that he
failed so miserably.

[Bill Z.]

Post by Frank Pittel
: >
: > Bush isn't president anymore, dumbo is. I don't remember any
: > hijacking of ships flying an American flag for ~25 years.
: Infantile name calling just makes you look like an idiot. So does
: your complaint about one merely pointing out the difference in the
: way issues are being handled.
Awwww pouwww baby got his fewwings hurt. Grow up loser.

When you go around calling the president "dumbo", it *is* infantile
name calling and "fewwings" [sic] have nothing to do with it.

<rest of this moron's post ignored>.

[Spartakus]

Post by Frank Pittel
: As for the recent "hijacking", all they managed to get control of for
: any period of time (about a week) was a lifeboat, but in any case
: everyone knows there is a piracy problem in that area right now and
: the pirates are equal-opportunity when it comes to selecting a ship to
: board.
The first time anyone even tried in ~25 years. The dimwit bidden was right
dumbo got tested right away as president. It's to bad for the US that he
failed so miserably.

Let's see - three bullets, three dead pirates, one alive freighter
captain, one reunited freighter captain family, one reunited freighter
crew, one recovered freighter. On what planet is that a failure?

[Frank Pittel]

In alt.politics.usa.republican Spartakus <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
: Frank Pittel <***@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: > Bill Z. <***@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:

: > : As for the recent "hijacking", all they managed to get control of for
: > : any period of time (about a week) was a lifeboat, but in any case
: > : everyone knows there is a piracy problem in that area right now and
: > : the pirates are equal-opportunity when it comes to selecting a ship to
: > : board.

: > The first time anyone even tried in ~25 years. The dimwit bidden was right
: > dumbo got tested right away as president. It's to bad for the US that he
: > failed so miserably.

: Let's see - three bullets, three dead pirates, one alive freighter
: captain, one reunited freighter captain family, one reunited freighter
: crew, one recovered freighter. On what planet is that a failure?

The first hijacking of a US ship in ~25. You also managed to miss that the pirates
circled the frieghter for a number of days before boarding. Where was the dumbo nazy
then? Then again if the dumbo navy prevented the hijacking dumbo wouldn't get the media
attention for what happened.

We also have dumbo going to europe and drooling over them while attacking the US and when
he asked for help they simply dismissed him as irrelevent. I'm sure you've also managed
to forget N. Korea launched a nuke capable missle as dumbo spoke of the US eliminated
it's nukes. All while iran continues to move at full speed towards building a nuke.

He's failed test after test after test after test.

[Spartakus]

Post by Frank Pittel
: > : As for the recent "hijacking", all they managed to get control of for
: > : any period of time (about a week) was a lifeboat, but in any case
: > : everyone knows there is a piracy problem in that area right now and
: > : the pirates are equal-opportunity when it comes to selecting a ship to
: > : board.
: > The first time anyone even tried in ~25 years. The dimwit bidden was right
: > dumbo got tested right away as president. It's to bad for the US that he
: > failed so miserably.
: Let's see - three bullets, three dead pirates, one alive freighter
: captain, one reunited freighter captain family, one reunited freighter
: crew, one recovered freighter.  On what planet is that a failure?
The first hijacking of a US ship in ~25.

That's a rather cumbersome name for a planet.

Post by Frank Pittel
You also managed to miss that the pirates
circled the frieghter for a number of days before boarding.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Name *one* world leader who gets personally involved every time a
small boat approaches a freighter, cruise ship or other large vessel.
Come to that, show me where it's standard procedure to take military
action in the same scenario, before the small boaters actually do
anything hostile.

You guys are running on fumes. In every sense of the phrase.

[M***@dick.com]

On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:58:24 -0500, Frank Pittel

Post by Frank Pittel
Then again if the dumbo navy prevented the hijacking dumbo wouldn't get the media
attention for what happened.

Then again if OBAMA hadn't succeeded, the feeding
frenzy would be on

IOW, you're on a fucking feeding frenzy since
Conservatism was made to look like the dingbat ideology
we've said it was all along.

[LG Garisson]

Post by MioMyo
Why didn't bamby give authorization from the beginning when the Navy got
involved to kill these pirates once an opportunity presented itself?
Why did bamby wait for several days holding the Navy at bay?
And why does the NYT bury this fact deep in the story, knowing full well a
majority of readers either glance through the headlines and/or read the
first few paragraphs?
Shilling for their messiah, bamby, that's obviously the answer to the last
question.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/13/world/africa/13pirates.html?_r=2&hp
The Defense Department twice sought Mr. Obama's permission to use force to
rescue Captain Phillips, most recently on Friday night, senior defense
officials said. On Saturday morning, the president agreed, they said, if
it appeared that the captain's life was in imminent danger.

Where were all you Defenders of Freedom and Champions of the American Way
when Bush was dismantling our rights, eavesdropping without warrants,
torturing, lying to involve us in a war of choice, claiming executive powers
unprecedented in our history... it's like he was personally teabagging
America, and telling everyone who objected to go suck it.

You whackos are yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater, when no fire exists
except the one consuming their AIDS infested brains. Totally irresponsible,
while your lizard brained claims are demonstrably false to anyone with the
power to reason.