Lefty Liberal Enviro-Idiocy in Action [Re: Judge Restores President Clinton's National Forest 'Roadless Rule']

[Stan de SD]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6093818,00.html
Judge Restores Clinton's 'Roadless Rule'
By TERENCE CHEA
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -
A federal judge on Wednesday reinstated the ``Roadless Rule,'' a
Clinton-era ban on road construction in nearly a third of national
forests.
U.S. District Judge Elizabeth Laporte ruled that the Bush
administration failed to conduct necessary environmental studies
before making changes that allowed states to decide how to manage
individual national forests.
The 2001 rule prohibits logging, mining and other development on 58.5
million acres in 38 states and Puerto Rico, but the Bush
administration replaced it in May 2005 with a process that required
governors to petition the federal government to protect national
forests in their states.
Laporte sided with 20 environmental groups and four states -
California, New Mexico, Oregon and Washington - that sued the U.S.
Forest Service over the changes.
``This is fantastic news for millions of Americans who have
consistently told the Forest Service that they wanted these last wild
areas of public land protected,'' said Kristen Boyles, an attorney for
Earthjustice, one of the plaintiffs.

They won't be "protected" when they burn to the ground because foresters
can't make fire breaks, clear out dead trees and undergrowth, or get fire
fighting apparatus and personnel in remote spots due to a lack of roads.

Envirofanatical idiocy has already resorted in the needless destruction of
millions of acres of forests in Yellowstone, Los Alamos, and Southern
California over the last decade or two, as well as the death of hundreds of
people and the destruction of over 10,000 homes. The Healthy Forests
Restoration Act was a commonsense forest management initiative that would
have provided critical access and streamlined the bureaucratic process,
allowing states and local jurisdictions to move forward on plans to clear
brush and other hazards. But true to form, the eco-kooks and their slimeball
environmental lawyers (motivated more by court-ordered payment of attorney's
fees than any real concern about the environment) find some judge to mau-mau
and perpetuate the idiocy.

Of course, it will be all George Bush's fault when the forests burn to the
ground, but that's a story for another day... :O(

[Adam Whyte-Settlar]

"Stan de SD" <***@covad.net> wrote in message
news:5dad3.

Post by Stan de SD
Envirofanatical idiocy has already resorted in the needless destruction of
millions of acres of forests in Yellowstone, Los Alamos, and Southern
California over the last decade or two, as well as the death of hundreds of
people and the destruction of over 10,000 homes.

Fires are a natural part of the cycle. In fact they are an *essential* part
of the cycle.
Idiots who choose to build their homes in an area that is subject to
periodic forest fires are soon removed from the gene pool as a part of the
natural cycle.

A W-S

[Stan de SD]

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar
news:5dad3.

Post by Stan de SD
Envirofanatical idiocy has already resorted in the needless destruction of
millions of acres of forests in Yellowstone, Los Alamos, and Southern
California over the last decade or two, as well as the death of hundreds of
people and the destruction of over 10,000 homes.

Fires are a natural part of the cycle. In fact they are an *essential* part
of the cycle.

People use the forests, so some form of management is necessary. When the
forest floor is permitted to build up with debris, fires become unnaturally
destructive.

[Pouting Georgie Bush]

Post by Stan de SD

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar
news:5dad3.

Post by Stan de SD
Envirofanatical idiocy has already resorted in the needless destruction

of

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar

Post by Stan de SD
millions of acres of forests in Yellowstone, Los Alamos, and Southern
California over the last decade or two, as well as the death of
hundreds
of
people and the destruction of over 10,000 homes.

Fires are a natural part of the cycle. In fact they are an *essential*

part

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar
of the cycle.

People use the forests, so some form of management is necessary. When the
forest floor is permitted to build up with debris, fires become unnaturally
destructive.

Uh oh, Stain, that night school is workin'. Better wake the Grankids before
they have a dream, fuh..

[Stan de SD]

Post by Pouting Georgie Bush

Post by Stan de SD

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar
news:5dad3.

Post by Stan de SD
Envirofanatical idiocy has already resorted in the needless destruction

of

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar

Post by Stan de SD
millions of acres of forests in Yellowstone, Los Alamos, and Southern
California over the last decade or two, as well as the death of
hundreds
of
people and the destruction of over 10,000 homes.

Fires are a natural part of the cycle. In fact they are an *essential*

part

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar
of the cycle.

People use the forests, so some form of management is necessary. When the
forest floor is permitted to build up with debris, fires become unnaturally
destructive.

Uh oh, Stain, that night school is workin'. Better wake the Grankids before
they have a dream, fuh..

Is that you, Travis?

[Jafo]

Pouting Georgie Bush wrote...

Stan de SD wrote...

Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote...

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar

Post by Stan de SD
Envirofanatical idiocy has already resorted in the needless
destruction of millions of acres of forests in Yellowstone, Los
Alamos, and Southern California over the last decade or two, as
well as the death of hundreds of people and the destruction of
over 10,000 homes.

Fires are a natural part of the cycle. In fact they are an
*essential* part of the cycle.

People use the forests, so some form of management is necessary.
When the forest floor is permitted to build up with debris, fires
become unnaturally destructive.

Uh oh, Stain, that night school is workin'. Better wake the
Grankids before they have a dream, fuh..

Apparently, our old friend PB here believes that when one has nothing
intelligent to contribute, it's nonetheless better to make a stupid
and irrelevant reply than no reply at all.

Is that you, Travis?

$ host 67.117.24.99
99.24.117.67.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer
adsl-67-117-24-99.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net.

Yup. "Pouting Georgie Bush" is merely the latest screen name taken
by the PacBell Poster himself. :-D

--
Jafo

[robw]

Is that you, gutless?

Post by Stan de SD

Post by Pouting Georgie Bush

Post by Stan de SD

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar
news:5dad3.

Post by Stan de SD
Envirofanatical idiocy has already resorted in the needless

destruction

Post by Pouting Georgie Bush

Post by Stan de SD
of

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar

Post by Stan de SD
millions of acres of forests in Yellowstone, Los Alamos, and Southern
California over the last decade or two, as well as the death of
hundreds
of
people and the destruction of over 10,000 homes.

Fires are a natural part of the cycle. In fact they are an *essential*

part

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar
of the cycle.

People use the forests, so some form of management is necessary. When

the

Post by Pouting Georgie Bush

Post by Stan de SD
forest floor is permitted to build up with debris, fires become unnaturally
destructive.

Uh oh, Stain, that night school is workin'. Better wake the Grankids

before

Post by Pouting Georgie Bush
they have a dream, fuh..

Is that you, Travis?

[Pouting Georgie Bush]

Post by Stan de SD

Post by Pouting Georgie Bush

Post by Stan de SD

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar
news:5dad3.

Post by Stan de SD
Envirofanatical idiocy has already resorted in the needless

destruction

Post by Pouting Georgie Bush

Post by Stan de SD
of

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar

Post by Stan de SD
millions of acres of forests in Yellowstone, Los Alamos, and Southern
California over the last decade or two, as well as the death of
hundreds
of
people and the destruction of over 10,000 homes.

Fires are a natural part of the cycle. In fact they are an *essential*

part

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar
of the cycle.

People use the forests, so some form of management is necessary. When

the

Post by Pouting Georgie Bush

Post by Stan de SD
forest floor is permitted to build up with debris, fires become unnaturally
destructive.

Uh oh, Stain, that night school is workin'. Better wake the Grankids

before

Post by Pouting Georgie Bush
they have a dream, fuh..

Is that you, Travis?

Travis? Nein, schwinehund.
Sieg heil.

[Stan de SD]

Post by Pouting Georgie Bush

Post by Stan de SD

Post by Pouting Georgie Bush

Post by Stan de SD

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar
news:5dad3.

Post by Stan de SD
Envirofanatical idiocy has already resorted in the needless

destruction

Post by Pouting Georgie Bush

Post by Stan de SD
of

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar

Post by Stan de SD
millions of acres of forests in Yellowstone, Los Alamos, and Southern
California over the last decade or two, as well as the death of
hundreds
of
people and the destruction of over 10,000 homes.

Fires are a natural part of the cycle. In fact they are an *essential*

part

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar
of the cycle.

People use the forests, so some form of management is necessary. When

the

Post by Pouting Georgie Bush

Post by Stan de SD
forest floor is permitted to build up with debris, fires become unnaturally
destructive.

Uh oh, Stain, that night school is workin'. Better wake the Grankids

before

Post by Pouting Georgie Bush
they have a dream, fuh..

Is that you, Travis?

Travis? Nein, schwinehund.
Sieg heil.

Yep, that's you, Travis. :O|

[Adam Whyte-Settlar]

Post by Stan de SD

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar
news:5dad3.

Post by Stan de SD
Envirofanatical idiocy has already resorted in the needless destruction

of

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar

Post by Stan de SD
millions of acres of forests in Yellowstone, Los Alamos, and Southern
California over the last decade or two, as well as the death of
hundreds
of
people and the destruction of over 10,000 homes.

Fires are a natural part of the cycle. In fact they are an *essential*

part

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar
of the cycle.

People use the forests, so some form of management is necessary. When the
forest floor is permitted to build up with debris, fires become unnaturally
destructive.

I'm a former forestry management consultant as it happens, so you better
tell mother nature what you have decided is 'unnaturally destructive' not
me.
Knowing what I know, I wouldn't build there. Nature understands our wisdom
with her gun.

A W-S

[Miriam Cohen]

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar

Post by Stan de SD

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar
news:5dad3.

Post by Stan de SD
Envirofanatical idiocy has already resorted in the needless destruction

of

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar

Post by Stan de SD
millions of acres of forests in Yellowstone, Los Alamos, and Southern
California over the last decade or two, as well as the death of
hundreds
of
people and the destruction of over 10,000 homes.

Fires are a natural part of the cycle. In fact they are an *essential*

part

Post by Adam Whyte-Settlar
of the cycle.

People use the forests, so some form of management is necessary. When the
forest floor is permitted to build up with debris, fires become unnaturally
destructive.

I'm a former forestry management consultant as it happens, so you better
tell mother nature what you have decided is 'unnaturally destructive' not
me.
Knowing what I know, I wouldn't build there. Nature understands our wisdom
with her gun.
A W-S

I believe that you and Stan are talking about 2 different kinds of use
by people. You very clearly are talking about people who choose to build
their homes there and line there full time. It appears, to me, that Stan
may be talking about hikers or tourists who come to see the pretty
trees. On the surface it might appear that the 2 groups are similar, but
I think Stan is referring to the fact that day trippers tend not to
clean up after themselves especially if there are no trash receptacles
near by and people don't generally liter where they live so the group
you're talking about probably keeps their part of the forest clean. It
is clear that the different points you are each talking about are both
correct.

[r***@comcast.net]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:43:04 -0700, Miriam Cohen

Post by Miriam Cohen
I believe that you and Stan are talking about 2 different kinds of use
by people. You very clearly are talking about people who choose to build
their homes there and line there full time. It appears, to me, that Stan
may be talking about hikers or tourists who come to see the pretty
trees. On the surface it might appear that the 2 groups are similar, but
I think Stan is referring to the fact that day trippers tend not to
clean up after themselves especially if there are no trash receptacles
near by and people don't generally liter where they live so the group
you're talking about probably keeps their part of the forest clean. It
is clear that the different points you are each talking about are both
correct.

Chuckle. Someone reads "forrest litter" as a tourist problem.

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