Did Trump Obstruct Justice?

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Schuman

2017-05-18 14:36:16 UTC

“I hope you can let this go.”

Telling a subordinate (Director Comey) to stop his own investigation
(assuming that was what it was) is no more obstruction of justice than
pardoning Flynn would.

Bullshit. You don't know what you're talking about.

Under what branch of the U.S. government did Director Comey work under?

Not the issue.
Your second use of "under" is redundant. You're an idiot.

11 years ago, while posting under this current nym, Rudy Canoza, we had a
discussion about a revised marketing claim concerning grass-fed beef from
USDA. You claimed that you had written to and received a reply from
William T.
Sessions, Associate Deputy Administrator, Livestock and Seed Program. Here
below is the post you wrote using the nym Rudy Canoza containing your
correspondence with William Sessions.

[start- Jon to me]
Eat shit and bark at the moon, Dreck - the proposed
standard has NOT been adopted. I wrote to William
Sessions, the associate deputy administrator (how's
that for a title) at the Livestock and Seed Program at
USDA that is in charge of writing the standard for the
"meat marketing claims"; his name, title and e-mail
address are at a web page whose URL I gave yesterday,
http://www.fass.org/fasstrack/news_item.asp?news_id=1152

Here's his reply:

From: "Sessions, William" <***@usda.gov>
To: <jonball@[...]>
Mr. Ball: Thanks for your message. The marketing claim
standards are still under review by USDA. Accordingly, the
standards have not been published in a final form for use. I
hope this information is helpful.
Please let me know if further information is needed.
Thanks,
William T. Sessions
Associate Deputy Administrator
Livestock and Seed Program

-----Original Message-----
From: jonball@[...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:38 AM
To: Sessions, William
Subject: 2003 proposed standards for meat marketing claims

I have read about the proposed standards, and I've seen
many of the public comments sent to USDA. I cannot find
anything to indicate if the standards were adopted.
Were the standards as proposed in 2003 adopted?

Thanks in advance.
Jonathan Ball
Pasadena, CA
___________________________________________________
Jonathan Ball aka Rudy Canoza 08 Sep 2005 http://bit.ly/2cYknsh
[end]

Jonathan Ball. Pasadena, CA. Priceless! That email, posted from Jonathan
Ball,
you, and the return email sent to Jonathan Ball proves beyond all doubt that
you are Jonathan Ball. Of course, you don't live in Pasadena since moving to
5327 Shepard Ave Sacramento, CA 95819-1731

Here's the proof Jonathan D Ball http://bit.ly/1LFy9t8

and I won't die soon.

Yeah you will. You're an old man who hasn't looked after himself. I wouldn't
go around goading people if I was as small and as puny as you are, liar Jon.
You ought to be very careful.

You certainly have no means to hasten my death.

Are you really serious, weed? you're just over 5 feet tall and 64 years old.
You'll be 65 on December 2nd. You've got to stop threatening people and
goading them to come after you. You're pathetic.

Schuman

2017-05-18 15:07:18 UTC

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“I hope you can let this go.”

Telling a subordinate (Director Comey) to stop his own investigation
(assuming that was what it was) is no more obstruction of justice than
pardoning Flynn would.

Bullshit. You don't know what you're talking about.

If Trump goes...So do you..

Nope. Trump almost certainly *is* going to go, and I'm not going
anywhere. Bet on both.

and I won't die soon.

Yeah you will. You're an old man who hasn't looked after himself. I wouldn't
go around goading people if I was as small and as puny as you are, liar Jon.
You ought to be very careful.

You certainly have no means to hasten my death.

Are you really serious, weed? you're just over 5 feet tall and 64 years old.
You'll be 65 on December 2nd. You've got to stop threatening people and
goading them to come after you. You're pathetic.

Balthazar Jones

2017-05-22 18:58:04 UTC

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The mainstream media do not lie. Get that through your head.

https://reporterslab.org/jayson-blair-opens-past/

“So why did you do it?”

She was referring to the 2003 scandal that seismically rocked the
journalism world: the revelation that Blair had plagiarized and
fabricated many of the stories he had written as a staff reporter for
the New York Times. He had copied passages from other publications,
conjured up fake quotations and lied repeatedly to cover up his misdeeds.

Blair resigned, and the Times published a punishing, lengthy report
investigating Blair’s journalistic fraud and the newsroom breakdowns
that had let him slip through the cracks. According to the report,
Blair’s actions were “a profound betrayal of trust.” A month later,
Executive Editor Howell Raines and managing editor Gerald Boyd turned in
their own resignations.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/pulitzer-winning-lies/article/4040

Pulitzer-Winning Lies
After 70 years a Pulitzer committee is reexamining Walter Duranty's
Stalin whitewashes in the New York Times. How bad were they? See for
yourself.

12:40 PM, Jun 12, 2003 | By Arnold Beichman
AT LONG LAST a Pulitzer Prize committee is looking into the possibility
that the Pulitzer awarded to Walter Duranty, the New York Times Moscow
correspondent whose dispatches covered up Stalin's infamies, might be
revoked.

In order to assist in their researches, I am downloading here some of
the lies contained in those dispatches, lies which the New York Times
has never repudiated with the same splash as it accorded Jayson Blair's
comparatively trivial lies:

"There is no famine or actual starvation nor is there likely to be."

--New York Times, Nov. 15, 1931, page 1

"Any report of a famine in Russia is today an exaggeration or malignant
propaganda."

--New York Times, August 23, 1933

"Enemies and foreign critics can say what they please. Weaklings and
despondents at home may groan under the burden, but the youth and
strength of the Russian people is essentially at one with the Kremlin's
program, believes it worthwhile and supports it, however hard be the
sledding."

--New York Times, December 9, 1932, page 6

"You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs."

--New York Times, May 14, 1933, page 18

"There is no actual starvation or deaths from starvation but there is
widespread mortality from diseases due to malnutrition."

--New York Times, March 31, 1933, page 13