Why is Air America such a failure?

[Stan de SD]

"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
news:e98efv$a86$***@panix5.panix.com...
> In article <49872$44b7bb65$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
> >
> >"grinder" <***@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
> >news:KDNtg.8418$***@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >>
> >> "Stan de SD" <***@covad.net> wrote in message
> >> news:8b38f$44b73aef$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com...
> >> >
> >> > "grinder" <***@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
> >> > news:2Fttg.7315$***@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >> >>
> >> >> "WuzYoungOnceToo2" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:***@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> > grinder wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I am listening right now!!! I will get back to you when I can't
> >find
> >> > it
> >> >> >> on
> >> >> >> the dial anymore.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Great! They're up to 3!
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> They're on the air right now. That's all that is important to me.
In
> >> >> the
> >> >> meantime keep counting.
> >> >
> >> > So we're almost up to 4?
> >>
> >> I'm listening and there is not a damn thing you can do about it.
> >
> >Listen all you want for all I care, and go ahead pretending that Air
America
> >is some broadcasting powerhouse. It's a flop, and anyone who has any idea
of
> >what's going on in the broadcasting industry knows it.
>
> "anyone who has any idea of what's going on in the broadcasting
> industry knows it."
>
> Cite? Or are you just Making Shit Up.

Here's your cite: Radio & Ratings: http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRRatings/
for selected markets in CA.
============================

Los Angeles, CA (#2)
12+ Population: 10,790,100 Updated: Jun 20, 2006

KFI (640 AM, Rush Limbaugh, Dr. Laura, John & Ken) = 4.9
KABC (790 AM, Larry Elder, Dennis Prager) = 2.2
KRLA (1110 AM, Michael Savage) = 1.0
KTLK (1150 AM, Air America) = 1.0

San Francisco, CA (#4)
12+ Population: 5,829,700 Updated: Jun 22, 2006

KGO (810 AM, Ronn Owens, Bernie Ward, Dr. Bill Wattenburg) = 6.2
KSFO (560 AM, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity) = 3.3
KNEW (910 AM, Michael Savage) = 1.2
KQKE (1360 AM, Air America) = 1.0

San Diego, CA (#17)
12+ Population: 2,484,900 Updated: Jun 20, 2006

KOGO (600 AM, Rush, Dr. Laura, Roger Hedgecock) = 3.4
KFMB (760 AM, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage) = 3.4
KFI (640 AM, Rush Limbaugh, Dr. Laura, John & Ken) = 2.8
KLSD (Air America) = 1.7

Sacramento, CA (#26)
12+ Population: 1,758,100 Updated: May 04, 2006

KFBK (1350 AM, Rush, Dr. Dean Edell) = 8.0
KSTE (650 AM, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Bill O'Reilly) = 4.2
KGO (810 AM, Ronn Owens, Bernie Ward, Dr. Bill Wattenburg) = 0.7
KSAC (1240 AM, Air America) = 0.5

San Jose, CA (#34)
12+ Population: 1,413,100 Updated: Jun 22, 2006

KGO (810 AM, Ronn Owens, Bernie Ward, Dr. Bill Wattenburg) = 6.2
KSFO (560 AM, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity) = 2.1
KNEW (910 AM, Michael Savage) = 1.6
KQKE (1360 AM, Air America) = 0.5

Fresno, CA (#66)
12+ Population: 711,700 Updated: Jun 29, 2006

KMJ (580 AM, Rush, Hannity, Dr. Dean, Drudge) = 7.0
KPFT (790 AM, Air America) = 0.8

============================

Sorry, but even in the most populated "Blue State" in the country, Air
America's listenership is nothing to brag about. You think it's flying
anywhere that really matters? LOL!!!


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[Al Dykes]

In article <6ecd6$44b843a9$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
>
>"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>news:e98efv$a86$***@panix5.panix.com...
>> In article <49872$44b7bb65$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
>> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >"grinder" <***@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
>> >news:KDNtg.8418$***@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> >>
>> >> "Stan de SD" <***@covad.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:8b38f$44b73aef$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > "grinder" <***@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> > news:2Fttg.7315$***@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "WuzYoungOnceToo2" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:***@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> > grinder wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I am listening right now!!! I will get back to you when I can't
>> >find
>> >> > it
>> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> the dial anymore.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Great! They're up to 3!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> They're on the air right now. That's all that is important to me.
>In
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> meantime keep counting.
>> >> >
>> >> > So we're almost up to 4?
>> >>
>> >> I'm listening and there is not a damn thing you can do about it.
>> >
>> >Listen all you want for all I care, and go ahead pretending that Air
>America
>> >is some broadcasting powerhouse. It's a flop, and anyone who has any idea
>of
>> >what's going on in the broadcasting industry knows it.
>>
>> "anyone who has any idea of what's going on in the broadcasting
>> industry knows it."
>>
>> Cite? Or are you just Making Shit Up.



>
>Here's your cite: Radio & Ratings: http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRRatings/
>for selected markets in CA.
>============================
>
>Los Angeles, CA (#2)
> 12+ Population: 10,790,100 Updated: Jun 20, 2006



Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
advertisers pay for.

Over all stations, AAR gas 1/5 to 1/3 or Limbaughs. That's plenty to
be profitable. Not everybody can be #1 and there are dozens of
profitable talk show syndicats that have numbers in the same range as
AARs.

The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a long-term
slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.




--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

[m***@lycos.com]

I voted for A Gore when I bought a ticket to Friday the 13 Part II.

M Gore is in Depeche Mode and I voted more for him by buying old DM
cassettes.

Of course Mike Ward will tell me I'm the Anti-something.

Nope I'm 40 and pissed off at a few things that have let me down
lately, and I'm not using bipolar illness as an excuse. Some people are
just F ing Stupid and it got on my nerve. Welcome to America.

Hello crossposters, crossdressers and screwed up minds everywhere! Have
a tiff on me!

[m***@lycos.com]

I don't know, I've never heard it

[JessNw]

I went to high school in Costa Mesa. I had to move to Oregon to be in the
same city as other family.
I sure miss Southern California, 15 years later!

Jess


<***@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:***@35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>I don't know, I've never heard it
>

[Must be the Antichrist again...]

JessNw wrote:
> I went to high school in Costa Mesa. I had to move to Oregon to be in the
> same city as other family.
> I sure miss Southern California, 15 years later!
>
> Jess
>
>
> <***@lycos.com> wrote in message
> news:***@35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >I don't know, I've never heard it
> >

As a 28 year resident of Malheur County, I think California is fine,
but I AIN'T leaving Oregon. I fell in love with the state in 1978 and
stayed after my parents went back to Nampa, Idaho. I have a sibling in
Hermiston, one in Minnesota and one in Boise.

Hal Womack should know that's possibly one my aunt's kids... he should
back off. We as a family and other branches are all over CA, IN, IL,
ND/SD and a few other spots. May be more Diniuses than Womacks, LeeAnn
(sp) not withstanding.

[Jafo]

As viewed from alt.california, Al Dykes wrote:

>>Los Angeles, CA (#2)
>> 12+ Population: 10,790,100 Updated: Jun 20, 2006
>
>Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
>and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
>advertisers pay for.
>
>Over all stations, AAR gas 1/5 to 1/3 or Limbaughs. That's plenty to
>be profitable. Not everybody can be #1 and there are dozens of
>profitable talk show syndicats that have numbers in the same range as
>AARs.
>
>The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a long-term
>slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.

Your spin control has the distinct odor of desperation as you try to
make something out of practically nothing.

--
Jafo

[Kurt Lochner]

"snafu" <***@adelphia.net> whimpered:
>
> Al Dykes wrote:
> >
> >Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
. . .
> > >
> > > Here's your cite: Radio & Ratings: http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRRatings/
> > > for selected markets in CA.
> > > ============================
> > >
> > > Los Angeles, CA (#2)
> > > 12+ Population: 10,790,100 Updated: Jun 20, 2006
> >
> > Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
> > and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
> > advertisers pay for.
> >
> > Over all stations, AAR gas 1/5 to 1/3 or Limbaughs. That's plenty
> > to be profitable. Not everybody can be #1 and there are dozens of
> > profitable talk show syndicats that have numbers in the same range
> > as AARs.
> >
> > The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a
> > long-term slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened,
> > so far.
>
>Your spin control has the distinct odor of desperation[..]

As did yours, snafu..

--But, that's a trend with right-wingers of late..

[hc23hc]

DIrty Uncle Jafo wrote:
> Al Dykes wrote:
>
> >>Los Angeles, CA (#2)
> >> 12+ Population: 10,790,100 Updated: Jun 20, 2006
> >
> >Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
> >and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
> >advertisers pay for.
> >
> >Over all stations, AAR gas 1/5 to 1/3 or Limbaughs. That's plenty to
> >be profitable. Not everybody can be #1 and there are dozens of
> >profitable talk show syndicats that have numbers in the same range as
> >AARs.
> >
> >The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a long-term
> >slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.
>
> Your spin control has the distinct odor of desperation as you try to
> make something out of practically nothing.


I don't listen to Air America, nor to any other commercial talk radio.
But if something earns as much of your prune-faced Rapturist disdain as
Air America does, Jafo, it definitely can't be all bad.


.
.
.

[horatioclaytracepukieorionchildmolestors]

hc23hc wrote:
> DIrty Uncle Jafo wrote:
> > Al Dykes wrote:
> >
> > >>Los Angeles, CA (#2)
> > >> 12+ Population: 10,790,100 Updated: Jun 20, 2006
> > >
> > >Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
> > >and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
> > >advertisers pay for.
> > >
> > >Over all stations, AAR gas 1/5 to 1/3 or Limbaughs. That's plenty to
> > >be profitable. Not everybody can be #1 and there are dozens of
> > >profitable talk show syndicats that have numbers in the same range as
> > >AARs.
> > >
> > >The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a long-term
> > >slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.
> >
> > Your spin control has the distinct odor of desperation as you try to
> > make something out of practically nothing.
>
>
> I don't listen to Air America, nor to any other commercial talk radio.
> But if something earns as much of your prune-faced Rapturist disdain as
> Air America does, Jafo, it definitely can't be all bad.
>
>
> .
> .
> .

It is such a failure the right wing asshole make posts on it everyday,
it sure gets under their skin. Jafo sucks cock and his mother a whore.

[DCI]

On 14 Jul 2006 20:11:26 -0700,
"horatioclaytracepukieorionchildmolestors" <***@godisdead.com>
wrote:

>
>hc23hc wrote:
>> DIrty Uncle Jafo wrote:
>> > Al Dykes wrote:
>> >
>> > >>Los Angeles, CA (#2)
>> > >> 12+ Population: 10,790,100 Updated: Jun 20, 2006
>> > >
>> > >Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
>> > >and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
>> > >advertisers pay for.
>> > >
>> > >Over all stations, AAR gas 1/5 to 1/3 or Limbaughs. That's plenty to
>> > >be profitable. Not everybody can be #1 and there are dozens of
>> > >profitable talk show syndicats that have numbers in the same range as
>> > >AARs.
>> > >
>> > >The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a long-term
>> > >slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.
>> >
>> > Your spin control has the distinct odor of desperation as you try to
>> > make something out of practically nothing.
>>
>>
>> I don't listen to Air America, nor to any other commercial talk radio.
>> But if something earns as much of your prune-faced Rapturist disdain as
>> Air America does, Jafo, it definitely can't be all bad.
>>
>>

>It is such a failure the right wing asshole make posts on it everyday,
>it sure gets under their skin. Jafo sucks cock and his mother a whore.

Ok, now back in your cage, you snippy lil' fella.

DCI

[ef_hutterite]

On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 23:24:09 -0700, DCI <***@comcast.net> wrote:

>24.127.184.10

24.127.184.10 = [ c-24-127-184-10.hsd1.ca.comcast.net ]

OrgName: Comcast Cable Communications Holdings Inc
OrgID: CCCH-3
Address: 1800 Bishops Gate Blvd
City: Mt Laurel
StateProv: NJ
PostalCode: 08054
Country: US
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CIDR: 24.126.0.0/15
NetName: CCCH3-29
NetHandle: NET-24-126-0-0-1
Parent: NET-24-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: DNS.INFLOW.PA.BO.COMCAST.NET
NameServer: DNS.CMC.CO.DENVER.COMCAST.NET
Comment:
RegDate:
Updated: 2005-03-24
OrgAbuseHandle: NAPO-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Network Abuse and Policy Observance
OrgAbusePhone: 1-856-317-7272
OrgAbuseEmail: ***@comcast.net

OrgTechHandle: IC161-ARIN
OrgTechName: Comcast Cable Communications Inc
OrgTechPhone: 1-856-317-7200
OrgTechEmail: CNIPEO-Ip-***@cable.comcast.com

CustName: Comcast Cable Communications Holdings Inc.
Address: 1800 Bishops Gate Boulevard
City: Mount Laurel
StateProv: NJ
PostalCode: 08054
Country: US
RegDate: 2005-04-27
Updated: 2005-04-27
NetRange: 24.127.128.0 - 24.127.191.255
CIDR: 24.127.128.0/18
NetName: LOSANGELES-3
NetHandle: NET-24-127-128-0-1
Parent: NET-24-126-0-0-1
NetType: Reassigned
Comment:
RegDate: 2005-04-27
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OrgAbuseHandle: NAPO-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Network Abuse and Policy Observance
OrgAbusePhone: 1-856-317-7272
OrgAbuseEmail: ***@comcast.net

OrgTechHandle: IC161-ARIN
OrgTechName: Comcast Cable Communications Inc
OrgTechPhone: 1-856-317-7200

[Jafo]

As viewed from alt.california, ef_hutterite posted from
apeface.anonymizer.com:

>DCI wrote:
>>24.127.184.10

>24.127.184.10 = [ c-24-127-184-10.hsd1.ca.comcast.net ]
>
> OrgName: Comcast Cable Communications Holdings Inc
> OrgID: CCCH-3
> Address: 1800 Bishops Gate Blvd
> City: Mt Laurel
> StateProv: NJ ...

BFD.

--
Jafo

[Jafo]

As viewed from alt.california, Slick <hc23hc> wrote:

>I don't listen to Air America, nor to any other commercial
>talk radio. But

In other words, you don't know what you're talking about,
and are only here to offer a knee-jerk comment because you
saw the name "Jafo" in the thread.

--
Jafo

[DCI]

On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 22:35:08 -0700, Jafo <***@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>As viewed from alt.california, Slick <hc23hc> wrote:
>
>>I don't listen to Air America, nor to any other commercial
>>talk radio. But
>
>In other words, you don't know what you're talking about,
>and are only here to offer a knee-jerk comment because you
>saw the name "Jafo" in the thread.
>
>--
>Jafo


That's hc23hc, AKA Slick, for sure.

DCI

[Stan de SD]

"Jafo" <***@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:***@4ax.com...
> As viewed from alt.california, Slick <hc23hc> wrote:
>
> >I don't listen to Air America, nor to any other commercial
> >talk radio. But
>
> In other words, you don't know what you're talking about,
> and are only here to offer a knee-jerk comment because you
> saw the name "Jafo" in the thread.

Sounds about right for the Virtual Bag Lady of Usenet...

[hc23hc]

Dirty Uncle Jafo wrote:
> hc23hc wrote:
>
> >I don't listen to Air America, nor to any other commercial
> >talk radio. But
>
> In other words, you don't know what you're talking about,
> and are only here to offer a knee-jerk comment because you
> saw the name "Jafo" in the thread.


You seem rather intoxicated with yourself, Jafo, if you know what I
mean -- hope you do better in your struggle with language this time
than last go-around (as quoted above).

I know what I'm talking about. As a rule I tend to choose my own
words, unlike you. That's a luxury which must appear to you
extravagant beyond all belief, Jafo, but I can assure you it's well
worth the time and effort.

I said, "I don't listen to Air America," *not* that I haven't listened.
Duh.

To which you responded petulantly and in haste as well as in error and
anger. Not by any means the first time I've seen you do that, Jafo,
but the way you do it gets rather tiresome after a while.

Had you the reading comprehension and social sensibility of a gnat (or
a medium-sized colony of DCIs in heat, if that's easier for you to
visualize) Jafo, you'd have paid closer attention to what was written
before you upchucked any old garbage in response to whatever you
*thought* I might have written or maybe meant by what I'd written, if
only I were half as stupid as you are and had written what you thought
I wrote.

Not to mention you totally missing the "why" of what I wrote. More of
that in a moment.

I could have added, and now I shall, that "I don't vote Bush Republican
and I absolutely never fraternize with war criminals such as The
Pervert" -- and still I have no less authority than you do to comment
on the freakishly unlawful activities of either of those staple
constituents in your ho-hum chickenhawk sociosphere and party-political
diet of worms, Jafo.

As it relates to this topic, I doubt that I have any less relevant,
first-hand experience to go by than you do, Jafo. Not that I really
have to be any more impressed by Air America than you would be if that
is you were to take the time and trouble to put your money where your
anus is and listen to AAR-brand infotainment for yourself, but at least
I don't have this ridiculous vendetta thing that you do -- going on
against... what, a fucking talk radio station, for chrissakes? .

Or might you now be switching channels to imply that you've now become
a regular old AAR listener of record... an Air America afficionado
even, seeing as how in your mind, you're *all that* much more qualified
to comment and critique AAR content than I am, Jafo ?

Go on and surprise everybody, old wraith. Let's see you argue your way
out of this one.

Also, some first-hand observation of substance, on-topic... how about
it, Jafo? Got any?

That sure would be a turn-up for the books. Especially since, for all
your peevish lamentation that AAR's still holding whatever it likes to
call its own on the air while you mawkishly clown around as if your
antics actually supported diversity on the airwaves, not one
significant portion of your dull commentary on this topic has ever
substantially diverged from lame second-hand predigested put-down
litanies you're unabashedly cribbing off of Coulter, Hannity and
Limbaugh. Verbatim.

Hundreds of posts by you, mercilessly slagging Air America. But not
one single iota of originality, much less any sign whatsoever that
you've bothered to listen to the station for yourself before sounding
off, Jafo. You're an utterly transparent -- not even a particularly
ambitious -- plagiarist thoughtlessly lifting wholesale from some of
the absolutely worst sources known to Western Civilization, no less.
That's how depraved your absence of originality has become, Jafo.

Ergo, it would seem the aforementioned rightwing drones literally tell
you what to think as far as this topic is concerned, Jafo, as well as
on quite a few other issues of public interest to boot...

When it comes to Air America, Jafo, your faux sneering "insight" is
even less original, less useful and more unhelpful than practically
everything else you post, if that were at all humanly possible.

Most of all, it's based on practically no first-hand knowledge, which
as you've generously pointed out, defines you as a wannabe commentator
of no value or purpose whatsoever.

So, if you don't mind, I'll stick with what I originally wrote, namely,
"if something earns as much of your prune-faced Rapturist disdain as
Air America does, Jafo, it definitely can't be all bad."

And since I have your attention anyway, here's some practical advice in
pursuit of your objective with regard to a radio station which you
clearly wish would just dry up and go away, like you and DCI wish might
happen to The Pervert's inevitable indictment for war crime (which it
won't, either):

Apparently, enough people think Air America's cool enough to want to
keep listening to it for the time being. You should try finding it in
yourself, Jafo (probably wedged somewhere between The Pervert's
perinaeum and your colostomy tube) to let other people enjoy whatever
the fuck it is they like doing in peace, as long as it isn't actually
harming you. And maybe even then, after all the evil you've wrought
upon the rest of this unsuspecting world.

It may pain you to acknowledge this, Jafo, but it's my civic duty to
advise you that you've gotten far too dull, old, ugly, stupid,
cowardly, unoriginal, creepy and culturally bereft to have any positive
impact on popular culture at this time, Jafo.

As slender as your positive influence on Western culture may ever at
best have been, Dirty Uncle Jafo, your anti-cool, negative, or chill
factor is a depressing issue beyond dispute at this point.

Scarcely a day goes by, Jafo, on which you fail to make an all-new
enemy or two for your sins of snooty fascist cowardice and effete
stealth racism which consecrate themselves in you like hollow prayers
-- your demonic doible-barreled orison that someday, your very own
manly leather-bound dictator will come along and marry you. Then
together with Stain de STD, DCI and of course The war criminal Pervert,
you queer chappies can pick up where Gay Tittybar Tom DeLay left off
and make this once-proud nation's trains run off the rails on time,
under W.

You're the sort of guy sane people least want to be like, Jafo. And
that goes for all your other consumer choices as well. Nobody in their
right mind wants what you want, Jafo. They want the opposite of
whatever you're having.

In other words, you're some of the cheapest advertising Air America
could possibly hope for.

Even if it's double-negative advertising, I imagine they can afford as
much as you can deliver, in effect driving more and more people to want
to tune in AAR and inundate themselves in streams of possibly
antidotal, definitely less totally rightwing banter and bullshit than
everybody's nemesis Dirty Uncle Jafo has become not only addicted, but
mentally beholden, to.

But if what you really want is more and more people to not-listen to
Air America, as is patently obvious, Jafo -- try saying something nice
about it for a change, like you meant it.


.
.
.

[DCI]

On 15 Jul 2006 08:30:35 -0700, "hc23hc" <***@mac.com> wrote:

>Dirty Uncle Jafo wrote:
>> hc23hc wrote:
>>
>> >I don't listen to Air America, nor to any other commercial
>> >talk radio. But
>>
>> In other words, you don't know what you're talking about,
>> and are only here to offer a knee-jerk comment because you
>> saw the name "Jafo" in the thread.
>
>
>You seem rather intoxicated with yourself, Jafo, if you know what I
>mean -- hope you do better in your struggle with language this time
>than last go-around (as quoted above).
>
>I know what I'm talking about. As a rule I tend to choose my own
>words, unlike you. That's a luxury which must appear to you
>extravagant beyond all belief, Jafo, but I can assure you it's well
>worth the time and effort.
>
>I said, "I don't listen to Air America," *not* that I haven't listened.
> Duh.
>
>To which you responded petulantly and in haste as well as in error and
>anger. Not by any means the first time I've seen you do that, Jafo,
>but the way you do it gets rather tiresome after a while.
>
>Had you the reading comprehension and social sensibility of a gnat (or
>a medium-sized colony of DCIs in heat, if that's easier for you to
>visualize) Jafo, you'd have paid closer attention to what was written
>before you upchucked any old garbage in response to whatever you
>*thought* I might have written or maybe meant by what I'd written, if
>only I were half as stupid as you are and had written what you thought
>I wrote.
>
>Not to mention you totally missing the "why" of what I wrote. More of
>that in a moment.
>
>I could have added, and now I shall, that "I don't vote Bush Republican
>and I absolutely never fraternize with war criminals such as The
>Pervert" -- and still I have no less authority than you do to comment
>on the freakishly unlawful activities of either of those staple
>constituents in your ho-hum chickenhawk sociosphere and party-political
>diet of worms, Jafo.
>
>As it relates to this topic, I doubt that I have any less relevant,
>first-hand experience to go by than you do, Jafo. Not that I really
>have to be any more impressed by Air America than you would be if that
>is you were to take the time and trouble to put your money where your
>anus is and listen to AAR-brand infotainment for yourself, but at least
>I don't have this ridiculous vendetta thing that you do -- going on
>against... what, a fucking talk radio station, for chrissakes? .
>
>Or might you now be switching channels to imply that you've now become
>a regular old AAR listener of record... an Air America afficionado
>even, seeing as how in your mind, you're *all that* much more qualified
>to comment and critique AAR content than I am, Jafo ?
>
>Go on and surprise everybody, old wraith. Let's see you argue your way
>out of this one.
>
>Also, some first-hand observation of substance, on-topic... how about
>it, Jafo? Got any?
>
>That sure would be a turn-up for the books. Especially since, for all
>your peevish lamentation that AAR's still holding whatever it likes to
>call its own on the air while you mawkishly clown around as if your
>antics actually supported diversity on the airwaves, not one
>significant portion of your dull commentary on this topic has ever
>substantially diverged from lame second-hand predigested put-down
>litanies you're unabashedly cribbing off of Coulter, Hannity and
>Limbaugh. Verbatim.
>
>Hundreds of posts by you, mercilessly slagging Air America. But not
>one single iota of originality, much less any sign whatsoever that
>you've bothered to listen to the station for yourself before sounding
>off, Jafo. You're an utterly transparent -- not even a particularly
>ambitious -- plagiarist thoughtlessly lifting wholesale from some of
>the absolutely worst sources known to Western Civilization, no less.
>That's how depraved your absence of originality has become, Jafo.
>
>Ergo, it would seem the aforementioned rightwing drones literally tell
>you what to think as far as this topic is concerned, Jafo, as well as
>on quite a few other issues of public interest to boot...
>
>When it comes to Air America, Jafo, your faux sneering "insight" is
>even less original, less useful and more unhelpful than practically
>everything else you post, if that were at all humanly possible.
>
>Most of all, it's based on practically no first-hand knowledge, which
>as you've generously pointed out, defines you as a wannabe commentator
>of no value or purpose whatsoever.
>
>So, if you don't mind, I'll stick with what I originally wrote, namely,
>"if something earns as much of your prune-faced Rapturist disdain as
>Air America does, Jafo, it definitely can't be all bad."
>
>And since I have your attention anyway, here's some practical advice in
>pursuit of your objective with regard to a radio station which you
>clearly wish would just dry up and go away, like you and DCI wish might
>happen to The Pervert's inevitable indictment for war crime (which it
>won't, either):
>
>Apparently, enough people think Air America's cool enough to want to
>keep listening to it for the time being. You should try finding it in
>yourself, Jafo (probably wedged somewhere between The Pervert's
>perinaeum and your colostomy tube) to let other people enjoy whatever
>the fuck it is they like doing in peace, as long as it isn't actually
>harming you. And maybe even then, after all the evil you've wrought
>upon the rest of this unsuspecting world.
>
>It may pain you to acknowledge this, Jafo, but it's my civic duty to
>advise you that you've gotten far too dull, old, ugly, stupid,
>cowardly, unoriginal, creepy and culturally bereft to have any positive
>impact on popular culture at this time, Jafo.
>
>As slender as your positive influence on Western culture may ever at
>best have been, Dirty Uncle Jafo, your anti-cool, negative, or chill
>factor is a depressing issue beyond dispute at this point.
>
>Scarcely a day goes by, Jafo, on which you fail to make an all-new
>enemy or two for your sins of snooty fascist cowardice and effete
>stealth racism which consecrate themselves in you like hollow prayers
>-- your demonic doible-barreled orison that someday, your very own
>manly leather-bound dictator will come along and marry you. Then
>together with Stain de STD, DCI and of course The war criminal Pervert,
>you queer chappies can pick up where Gay Tittybar Tom DeLay left off
>and make this once-proud nation's trains run off the rails on time,
>under W.
>
>You're the sort of guy sane people least want to be like, Jafo. And
>that goes for all your other consumer choices as well. Nobody in their
>right mind wants what you want, Jafo. They want the opposite of
>whatever you're having.
>
>In other words, you're some of the cheapest advertising Air America
>could possibly hope for.
>
>Even if it's double-negative advertising, I imagine they can afford as
>much as you can deliver, in effect driving more and more people to want
>to tune in AAR and inundate themselves in streams of possibly
>antidotal, definitely less totally rightwing banter and bullshit than
>everybody's nemesis Dirty Uncle Jafo has become not only addicted, but
>mentally beholden, to.
>
>But if what you really want is more and more people to not-listen to
>Air America, as is patently obvious, Jafo -- try saying something nice
>about it for a change, like you meant it.
>

With all the verbiage by Slick, what did she say that was important?
Nothing. In style over substance, Slick is #1 . . . in her #2 world.

DCI

[hc23hc]

DCILoveWarCriminals wrote:
> hc23hc wrote:
>
> >Dirty Uncle Jafo wrote:
> >> hc23hc wrote:
> >>
> >> >I don't listen to Air America, nor to any other commercial
> >> >talk radio. But
> >>
> >> In other words, you don't know what you're talking about,
> >> and are only here to offer a knee-jerk comment because you
> >> saw the name "Jafo" in the thread.
> >
> >
> >You seem rather intoxicated with yourself, Jafo, if you know what I
> >mean -- hope you do better in your struggle with language this time
> >than last go-around (as quoted above).
> >
> >I know what I'm talking about. As a rule I tend to choose my own
> >words, unlike you. That's a luxury which must appear to you
> >extravagant beyond all belief, Jafo, but I can assure you it's well
> >worth the time and effort.
> >
> >I said, "I don't listen to Air America," *not* that I haven't listened.
> > Duh.
> >
> >To which you responded petulantly and in haste as well as in error and
> >anger. Not by any means the first time I've seen you do that, Jafo,
> >but the way you do it gets rather tiresome after a while.
> >
> >Had you the reading comprehension and social sensibility of a gnat (or
> >a medium-sized colony of DCIs in heat, if that's easier for you to
> >visualize) Jafo, you'd have paid closer attention to what was written
> >before you upchucked any old garbage in response to whatever you
> >*thought* I might have written or maybe meant by what I'd written, if
> >only I were half as stupid as you are and had written what you thought
> >I wrote.
> >
> >Not to mention you totally missing the "why" of what I wrote. More of
> >that in a moment.
> >
> >I could have added, and now I shall, that "I don't vote Bush Republican
> >and I absolutely never fraternize with war criminals such as The
> >Pervert" -- and still I have no less authority than you do to comment
> >on the freakishly unlawful activities of either of those staple
> >constituents in your ho-hum chickenhawk sociosphere and party-political
> >diet of worms, Jafo.
> >
> >As it relates to this topic, I doubt that I have any less relevant,
> >first-hand experience to go by than you do, Jafo. Not that I really
> >have to be any more impressed by Air America than you would be if that
> >is you were to take the time and trouble to put your money where your
> >anus is and listen to AAR-brand infotainment for yourself, but at least
> >I don't have this ridiculous vendetta thing that you do -- going on
> >against... what, a fucking talk radio station, for chrissakes? .
> >
> >Or might you now be switching channels to imply that you've now become
> >a regular old AAR listener of record... an Air America afficionado
> >even, seeing as how in your mind, you're *all that* much more qualified
> >to comment and critique AAR content than I am, Jafo ?
> >
> >Go on and surprise everybody, old wraith. Let's see you argue your way
> >out of this one.
> >
> >Also, some first-hand observation of substance, on-topic... how about
> >it, Jafo? Got any?
> >
> >That sure would be a turn-up for the books. Especially since, for all
> >your peevish lamentation that AAR's still holding whatever it likes to
> >call its own on the air while you mawkishly clown around as if your
> >antics actually supported diversity on the airwaves, not one
> >significant portion of your dull commentary on this topic has ever
> >substantially diverged from lame second-hand predigested put-down
> >litanies you're unabashedly cribbing off of Coulter, Hannity and
> >Limbaugh. Verbatim.
> >
> >Hundreds of posts by you, mercilessly slagging Air America. But not
> >one single iota of originality, much less any sign whatsoever that
> >you've bothered to listen to the station for yourself before sounding
> >off, Jafo. You're an utterly transparent -- not even a particularly
> >ambitious -- plagiarist thoughtlessly lifting wholesale from some of
> >the absolutely worst sources known to Western Civilization, no less.
> >That's how depraved your absence of originality has become, Jafo.
> >
> >Ergo, it would seem the aforementioned rightwing drones literally tell
> >you what to think as far as this topic is concerned, Jafo, as well as
> >on quite a few other issues of public interest to boot...
> >
> >When it comes to Air America, Jafo, your faux sneering "insight" is
> >even less original, less useful and more unhelpful than practically
> >everything else you post, if that were at all humanly possible.
> >
> >Most of all, it's based on practically no first-hand knowledge, which
> >as you've generously pointed out, defines you as a wannabe commentator
> >of no value or purpose whatsoever.
> >
> >So, if you don't mind, I'll stick with what I originally wrote, namely,
> >"if something earns as much of your prune-faced Rapturist disdain as
> >Air America does, Jafo, it definitely can't be all bad."
> >
> >And since I have your attention anyway, here's some practical advice in
> >pursuit of your objective with regard to a radio station which you
> >clearly wish would just dry up and go away, like you and DCI wish might
> >happen to The Pervert's inevitable indictment for war crime (which it
> >won't, either):
> >
> >Apparently, enough people think Air America's cool enough to want to
> >keep listening to it for the time being. You should try finding it in
> >yourself, Jafo (probably wedged somewhere between The Pervert's
> >perinaeum and your colostomy tube) to let other people enjoy whatever
> >the fuck it is they like doing in peace, as long as it isn't actually
> >harming you. And maybe even then, after all the evil you've wrought
> >upon the rest of this unsuspecting world.
> >
> >It may pain you to acknowledge this, Jafo, but it's my civic duty to
> >advise you that you've gotten far too dull, old, ugly, stupid,
> >cowardly, unoriginal, creepy and culturally bereft to have any positive
> >impact on popular culture at this time, Jafo.
> >
> >As slender as your positive influence on Western culture may ever at
> >best have been, Dirty Uncle Jafo, your anti-cool, negative, or chill
> >factor is a depressing issue beyond dispute at this point.
> >
> >Scarcely a day goes by, Jafo, on which you fail to make an all-new
> >enemy or two for your sins of snooty fascist cowardice and effete
> >stealth racism which consecrate themselves in you like hollow prayers
> >-- your demonic doible-barreled orison that someday, your very own
> >manly leather-bound dictator will come along and marry you. Then
> >together with Stain de STD, DCI and of course The war criminal Pervert,
> >you queer chappies can pick up where Gay Tittybar Tom DeLay left off
> >and make this once-proud nation's trains run off the rails on time,
> >under W.
> >
> >You're the sort of guy sane people least want to be like, Jafo. And
> >that goes for all your other consumer choices as well. Nobody in their
> >right mind wants what you want, Jafo. They want the opposite of
> >whatever you're having.
> >
> >In other words, you're some of the cheapest advertising Air America
> >could possibly hope for.
> >
> >Even if it's double-negative advertising, I imagine they can afford as
> >much as you can deliver, in effect driving more and more people to want
> >to tune in AAR and inundate themselves in streams of possibly
> >antidotal, definitely less totally rightwing banter and bullshit than
> >everybody's nemesis Dirty Uncle Jafo has become not only addicted, but
> >mentally beholden, to.
> >
> >But if what you really want is more and more people to not-listen to
> >Air America, as is patently obvious, Jafo -- try saying something nice
> >about it for a change, like you meant it.
> >
>
> With all the verbiage by Slick, what did she say that was important?

Great response by your standards, Delirium Clemens. You managed to say
absolutely

> Nothing.

In your inimitable native Bakelite tongue, as usual, I might add.

Whereas I, on the other hand, dutifully reminded that petulant old
protofascist infidel Dirty Uncle Jafo that it's only a radio station,
fercryin out loud; that D.U. Jafo should stick with reading what's
there and not let himself get sidetracked by your incessant
butt-turtling of his spastic colon, DCI; and that, above all, there
are more important things to be done such as prosecuting war criminals
like The Pervert who remains free despite his open admission of
illegally killing (i.e. mass murdering) more unarmed innocent Asian
civilians than he can count; meanwhile incidentally also seeing to it
that Stain de STD receives a government beer subsidy for his
self-effacingly suicidal condition of permanent slapstick drunkenness,
to the general merriment of all the usenet.

Isn't it reassuring to know that everything has a way of coming
together even in These Troubled Times, under W? Brutish Hezbollah
Double Agent Stain is, after all, one of the reasons we have Air
America to begin with. Now, if only he'd quit breathing more than his
fair share of it.

So, DCI, since Jafo's "indisposed" -- what's *your* favorite show on
Air America?




.
.
.

[DCI]

On 15 Jul 2006 09:00:06 -0700, "hc23hc" <***@mac.com> wrote:


>> With all the verbiage by Slick, what did she say that was important?
>
>Great response by your standards, Delirium Clemens. You managed to say
>absolutely
>
>> Nothing.
>
>In your inimitable native Bakelite tongue, as usual, I might add.
>
>Whereas I, on the other hand, dutifully reminded that petulant old
>protofascist infidel Dirty Uncle Jafo that it's only a radio station,
>fercryin out loud; that D.U. Jafo should stick with reading what's
>there and not let himself get sidetracked by your incessant
>butt-turtling of his spastic colon, DCI; and that, above all, there
>are more important things to be done such as prosecuting war criminals
>like The Pervert who remains free despite his open admission of
>illegally killing (i.e. mass murdering) more unarmed innocent Asian
>civilians than he can count; meanwhile incidentally also seeing to it
>that Stain de STD receives a government beer subsidy for his
>self-effacingly suicidal condition of permanent slapstick drunkenness,
>to the general merriment of all the usenet.
>
>Isn't it reassuring to know that everything has a way of coming
>together even in These Troubled Times, under W? Brutish Hezbollah
>Double Agent Stain is, after all, one of the reasons we have Air
>America to begin with. Now, if only he'd quit breathing more than his
>fair share of it.
>
>So, DCI, since Jafo's "indisposed" -- what's *your* favorite show on
>Air America?

Here Slick tries to engage in a conversation about Air America even
though claiming not to listen to the station and makes another
Assumption. Slick chatters away, sort of a parakeet with a mirror.



DCI

[Jafo]

As viewed from alt.california, Slick <hc23hc> wrote:

<self-serving drivel deleted in order to arrive at the
only part of the post that had anything to say>

>But if what you really want is more and more people to not-listen to
>Air America, as is patently obvious, Jafo

Pulling yet another fact out of your ample ass, eh, Slick? I don't
care whether they listen or, as most people seem to choose, not.
I'm merely amused at the lengths that its few fans will go to in
order to spin last-place ratings into something positive.

--
Jafo

[Cheeks]

Jafo wrote:
> As viewed from alt.california, Slick <hc23hc> wrote:
>
>> I don't listen to Air America, nor to any other commercial
>> talk radio. But
>
> In other words, you don't know what you're talking about,
> and are only here to offer a knee-jerk comment because you
> saw the name "Jafo" in the thread.
>
> --
> Jafo

Clearly, Jafo doesn't know dick point shit about AAR.

--
June 30, 2006:

On Tuesday, the Mexican foreign secretary went on a radio program in
Mexico City and said,
“If there is a real wave of rights abuses, if we see the National Guard
starting to directly
participate in detaining people, we would immediately start filing
lawsuits through our
consulates.”

Last night, O’Reilly fired back:

“Okay then, Mr. Secretary. Here’s a no-spin message right back to you.
If the Mexican
government files one lawsuit in the USA, one, pertaining to the National
Guard, I will call for
a total boycott of Mexican goods and no travel to your country. Now that
might sound
presumptuous and I don’t mean to be threatening, but enough’s enough. It
is your
government’s fault, sir, that there is border chaos. We in America have
a right to security
and a right to expect our immigration laws be enforced. So, once again,
any action by the
Mexican government that impacts border security in the USA will be met
with a boycott
call. And if you don’t believe me or you think it doesn’t matter, Mr.
Secretary, why don’t you
give the French ambassador a call. He’ll fill you in.”

If you do call the French ambassador, chances are he will say something
to the effect of,
“Monsieur, monsieur, le boycott d'O'Reilly est fantastique!”

You see, O’Reilly called for a boycott in 2003 in response to France’s
lack of support for the
U.S. military action in Iraq. Let’s take a look at the results:

2002: Pre-Factor Boycott
French exports to the U.S. total $28.2 billion.

2003: Factor Boycott Begins
French exports to the U.S. increase a billion dollars to $29.2 billion.

2004: Factor Boycott Year 2
French exports to the U.S. increase more than $2 billion to $31.6 billion.

2005: Factor Boycott Year 3
French exports to the U.S. again increase more than $2 billion to $33.8
billion.

Wow, from $28.2 billion to $33.8 billion. So, according to the Foreign
Trade Division of the U.S.
Census Bureau, the Factor boycott of France has enabled France to
increase its exports to the
U.S. by $5.6 billion. So foreign powers be warned: You better think long
and hard before getting
on the wrong side of one Mr. William J. O’Reilly Jr., or you’ll be faced
with an onslaught of
economic growth the likes of which you’ve never imagined. Suck on that,
Mexico.

But for the sake of argument, let’s say we did get into a pissing match
with our neighbor to the
south. As we pointed out when O’Reilly threatened Canada with a boycott,
we’re a country
that’s rather dependent on foreign oil. What O’Reilly doesn’t appear to
know, however, is that
we import more crude oil from Mexico than from Saudi Arabia. In fact,
Mexico and Canada are
the largest exporters of oil to the U.S.

So before O’Reilly starts threatening to pull out the aces in our little
house-of-cards economy,
he might want to have that crack staff do a 30-second Google search. We
need Mexico more
than we need Saudi Arabia. So let’s not piss ‘em off too much, El
Presidente O’Reilly.

Until then, we’re anxious to see this O’Reilly boycott fail, as have all
the others that came
before it. He really is the craziest man on television.

-as reported on _www.sweetjesusihatebilloreilly.com_

[Al Dykes]

In article <***@4ax.com>,
Jafo <***@localhost> wrote:
>As viewed from alt.california, Al Dykes wrote:
>
>>>Los Angeles, CA (#2)
>>> 12+ Population: 10,790,100 Updated: Jun 20, 2006
>>
>>Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
>>and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
>>advertisers pay for.
>>
>>Over all stations, AAR gas 1/5 to 1/3 or Limbaughs. That's plenty to
>>be profitable. Not everybody can be #1 and there are dozens of
>>profitable talk show syndicats that have numbers in the same range as
>>AARs.
>>
>>The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a long-term
>>slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.
>
>Your spin control has the distinct odor of desperation as you try to
>make something out of practically nothing.
>

AAR is doing fine, There is NO information that that anyone has ever
posted to the contrary.



--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

[Stan de SD]

"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
news:e99qik$cei$***@panix5.panix.com...
> In article <***@4ax.com>,
> Jafo <***@localhost> wrote:
> >As viewed from alt.california, Al Dykes wrote:
> >
> >>>Los Angeles, CA (#2)
> >>> 12+ Population: 10,790,100 Updated: Jun 20, 2006
> >>
> >>Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
> >>and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
> >>advertisers pay for.
> >>
> >>Over all stations, AAR gas 1/5 to 1/3 or Limbaughs. That's plenty to
> >>be profitable. Not everybody can be #1 and there are dozens of
> >>profitable talk show syndicats that have numbers in the same range as
> >>AARs.
> >>
> >>The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a long-term
> >>slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.
> >
> >Your spin control has the distinct odor of desperation as you try to
> >make something out of practically nothing.
> >
>
> AAR is doing fine, There is NO information that that anyone has ever
> posted to the contrary.

Their ratings suck, despite your pathetic attempts to spin them...

[Stan de SD]

"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
news:e99geg$7ro$***@panix5.panix.com...
> In article <6ecd6$44b843a9$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
> >
> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> >news:e98efv$a86$***@panix5.panix.com...
> >> In article <49872$44b7bb65$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> >> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >"grinder" <***@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >news:KDNtg.8418$***@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >> >>
> >> >> "Stan de SD" <***@covad.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:8b38f$44b73aef$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "grinder" <***@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:2Fttg.7315$***@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "WuzYoungOnceToo2" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:***@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> > grinder wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I am listening right now!!! I will get back to you when I
can't
> >> >find
> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> >> on
> >> >> >> >> the dial anymore.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Great! They're up to 3!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> They're on the air right now. That's all that is important to
me.
> >In
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> meantime keep counting.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So we're almost up to 4?
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm listening and there is not a damn thing you can do about it.
> >> >
> >> >Listen all you want for all I care, and go ahead pretending that Air
> >America
> >> >is some broadcasting powerhouse. It's a flop, and anyone who has any
idea
> >of
> >> >what's going on in the broadcasting industry knows it.
> >>
> >> "anyone who has any idea of what's going on in the broadcasting
> >> industry knows it."
> >>
> >> Cite? Or are you just Making Shit Up.
>
>
>
> >
> >Here's your cite: Radio & Ratings:
http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRRatings/
> >for selected markets in CA.
> >============================
> >
> >Los Angeles, CA (#2)
> > 12+ Population: 10,790,100 Updated: Jun 20, 2006
>
>
>
> Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
> and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
> advertisers pay for.

Given that there aren't a whole lot of minors listening to talk radio (yes,
there are some), it doesn't skew the #s one way or another.


> The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a long-term
> slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.

Only because it hasn't gone up ENOUGH to have something to slide from...

[Must be the Antichrist again...]

Stan de SD wrote:
> "Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:e99geg$7ro$***@panix5.panix.com...
> > In article <6ecd6$44b843a9$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> > Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> > >news:e98efv$a86$***@panix5.panix.com...
> > >> In article <49872$44b7bb65$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> > >> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >"grinder" <***@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
> > >> >news:KDNtg.8418$***@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "Stan de SD" <***@covad.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:8b38f$44b73aef$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "grinder" <***@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:2Fttg.7315$***@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> "WuzYoungOnceToo2" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> >> news:***@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> > >> >> >> > grinder wrote:
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> I am listening right now!!! I will get back to you when I
> can't
> > >> >find
> > >> >> > it
> > >> >> >> >> on
> > >> >> >> >> the dial anymore.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Great! They're up to 3!
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> They're on the air right now. That's all that is important to
> me.
> > >In
> > >> >> >> the
> > >> >> >> meantime keep counting.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > So we're almost up to 4?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I'm listening and there is not a damn thing you can do about it.
> > >> >
> > >> >Listen all you want for all I care, and go ahead pretending that Air
> > >America
> > >> >is some broadcasting powerhouse. It's a flop, and anyone who has any
> idea
> > >of
> > >> >what's going on in the broadcasting industry knows it.
> > >>
> > >> "anyone who has any idea of what's going on in the broadcasting
> > >> industry knows it."
> > >>
> > >> Cite? Or are you just Making Shit Up.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Here's your cite: Radio & Ratings:
> http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRRatings/
> > >for selected markets in CA.
> > >============================
> > >
> > >Los Angeles, CA (#2)
> > > 12+ Population: 10,790,100 Updated: Jun 20, 2006
> >
> >
> >
> > Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
> > and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
> > advertisers pay for.
>
> Given that there aren't a whole lot of minors listening to talk radio (yes,
> there are some), it doesn't skew the #s one way or another.
>
>
> > The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a long-term
> > slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.
>
> Only because it hasn't gone up ENOUGH to have something to slide from...

Do they play the Doobie Brothers, Fleetwood Mac, the Supremes or Marvin
Gaye? How about Chris Rea? The Spinners?

Didn't George Clinton tell us "free your mind and your ass will
follow"?

The real Clinton from the mothership. Give up the funk y'all! Gotta
have that funk!

Now, did you forget the biscuits again? I ain't letting you in the
potluck unless you brung something!

[Stan de SD]

"Must be the Antichrist again..." <***@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:***@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Stan de SD wrote:
> > "Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> > news:e99geg$7ro$***@panix5.panix.com...
> > > In article <6ecd6$44b843a9$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> > > Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> > > >news:e98efv$a86$***@panix5.panix.com...
> > > >> In article
<49872$44b7bb65$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> > > >> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >"grinder" <***@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
> > > >> >news:KDNtg.8418$***@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> "Stan de SD" <***@covad.net> wrote in
message
> > > >> >> news:8b38f$44b73aef$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com...
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > "grinder" <***@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > news:2Fttg.7315$***@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> "WuzYoungOnceToo2" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in
message
> > > >> >> >> news:***@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> > > >> >> >> > grinder wrote:
> > > >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >> I am listening right now!!! I will get back to you when I
> > can't
> > > >> >find
> > > >> >> > it
> > > >> >> >> >> on
> > > >> >> >> >> the dial anymore.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Great! They're up to 3!
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> They're on the air right now. That's all that is important
to
> > me.
> > > >In
> > > >> >> >> the
> > > >> >> >> meantime keep counting.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > So we're almost up to 4?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I'm listening and there is not a damn thing you can do about it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Listen all you want for all I care, and go ahead pretending that
Air
> > > >America
> > > >> >is some broadcasting powerhouse. It's a flop, and anyone who has
any
> > idea
> > > >of
> > > >> >what's going on in the broadcasting industry knows it.
> > > >>
> > > >> "anyone who has any idea of what's going on in the broadcasting
> > > >> industry knows it."
> > > >>
> > > >> Cite? Or are you just Making Shit Up.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Here's your cite: Radio & Ratings:
> > http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRRatings/
> > > >for selected markets in CA.
> > > >============================
> > > >
> > > >Los Angeles, CA (#2)
> > > > 12+ Population: 10,790,100 Updated: Jun 20, 2006
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
> > > and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
> > > advertisers pay for.
> >
> > Given that there aren't a whole lot of minors listening to talk radio
(yes,
> > there are some), it doesn't skew the #s one way or another.
> >
> >
> > > The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a long-term
> > > slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.
> >
> > Only because it hasn't gone up ENOUGH to have something to slide from...
>
> Do they play the Doobie Brothers, Fleetwood Mac, the Supremes or Marvin
> Gaye? How about Chris Rea? The Spinners?
>
> Didn't George Clinton tell us "free your mind and your ass will
> follow"?

Yes, back in the United Sound/Westbound days (I still have that album in
storage somewhere, along with "Maggot Brain"). Why do I suspect that you,
George, and Sly Stone use the same individual to fill your "prescriptions"?

[No, It's just Steven...]

Stan de SD wrote:
> "Must be the Antichrist again..." <***@lycos.com> wrote in message
> news:***@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> > Stan de SD wrote:
> > > "Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> > > news:e99geg$7ro$***@panix5.panix.com...
> > > > In article <6ecd6$44b843a9$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> > > > Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> > > > >news:e98efv$a86$***@panix5.panix.com...
> > > > >> In article
> <49872$44b7bb65$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> > > > >> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >"grinder" <***@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
> > > > >> >news:KDNtg.8418$***@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> "Stan de SD" <***@covad.net> wrote in
> message
> > > > >> >> news:8b38f$44b73aef$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com...
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > "grinder" <***@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
> > > > >> >> > news:2Fttg.7315$***@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > > > >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> "WuzYoungOnceToo2" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message
> > > > >> >> >> news:***@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> > > > >> >> >> > grinder wrote:
> > > > >> >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> >> I am listening right now!!! I will get back to you when I
> > > can't
> > > > >> >find
> > > > >> >> > it
> > > > >> >> >> >> on
> > > > >> >> >> >> the dial anymore.
> > > > >> >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >> > Great! They're up to 3!
> > > > >> >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> They're on the air right now. That's all that is important
> to
> > > me.
> > > > >In
> > > > >> >> >> the
> > > > >> >> >> meantime keep counting.
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > So we're almost up to 4?
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> I'm listening and there is not a damn thing you can do about it.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Listen all you want for all I care, and go ahead pretending that
> Air
> > > > >America
> > > > >> >is some broadcasting powerhouse. It's a flop, and anyone who has
> any
> > > idea
> > > > >of
> > > > >> >what's going on in the broadcasting industry knows it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "anyone who has any idea of what's going on in the broadcasting
> > > > >> industry knows it."
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Cite? Or are you just Making Shit Up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Here's your cite: Radio & Ratings:
> > > http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRRatings/
> > > > >for selected markets in CA.
> > > > >============================
> > > > >
> > > > >Los Angeles, CA (#2)
> > > > > 12+ Population: 10,790,100 Updated: Jun 20, 2006
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
> > > > and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
> > > > advertisers pay for.
> > >
> > > Given that there aren't a whole lot of minors listening to talk radio
> (yes,
> > > there are some), it doesn't skew the #s one way or another.
> > >
> > >
> > > > The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a long-term
> > > > slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.
> > >
> > > Only because it hasn't gone up ENOUGH to have something to slide from...
> >
> > Do they play the Doobie Brothers, Fleetwood Mac, the Supremes or Marvin
> > Gaye? How about Chris Rea? The Spinners?
> >
> > Didn't George Clinton tell us "free your mind and your ass will
> > follow"?
>
> Yes, back in the United Sound/Westbound days (I still have that album in
> storage somewhere, along with "Maggot Brain"). Why do I suspect that you,
> George, and Sly Stone use the same individual to fill your "prescriptions"?

Ontario Pharmacy? Medicare D and Oregon Medicaid would buy a 616.00
refill but no Doobies, brother. You must think I'm rich, but then again
you got in a wrestling mess and got your mind in a full nelson or
something

I'm not gonna send a death squad from Yreka or Medford or something.
Enjoy your life maybe?

[Al Dykes]

In article <362ab$44b89262$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
>
>"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>news:e99geg$7ro$***@panix5.panix.com...
>> In article <6ecd6$44b843a9$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
>> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>> >news:e98efv$a86$***@panix5.panix.com...
>> >> In article <49872$44b7bb65$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
>> >> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >"grinder" <***@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> >news:KDNtg.8418$***@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Stan de SD" <***@covad.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:8b38f$44b73aef$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "grinder" <***@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:2Fttg.7315$***@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "WuzYoungOnceToo2" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:***@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >> > grinder wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I am listening right now!!! I will get back to you when I
>can't
>> >> >find
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> >> the dial anymore.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Great! They're up to 3!
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> They're on the air right now. That's all that is important to
>me.
>> >In
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> meantime keep counting.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So we're almost up to 4?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm listening and there is not a damn thing you can do about it.
>> >> >
>> >> >Listen all you want for all I care, and go ahead pretending that Air
>> >America
>> >> >is some broadcasting powerhouse. It's a flop, and anyone who has any
>idea
>> >of
>> >> >what's going on in the broadcasting industry knows it.
>> >>
>> >> "anyone who has any idea of what's going on in the broadcasting
>> >> industry knows it."
>> >>
>> >> Cite? Or are you just Making Shit Up.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >Here's your cite: Radio & Ratings:
>http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRRatings/
>> >for selected markets in CA.
>> >============================
>> >
>> >Los Angeles, CA (#2)
>> > 12+ Population: 10,790,100 Updated: Jun 20, 2006
>>
>>
>>
>> Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
>> and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
>> advertisers pay for.
>
>Given that there aren't a whole lot of minors listening to talk radio (yes,
>there are some), it doesn't skew the #s one way or another.
>
>
>> The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a long-term
>> slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.
>
>Only because it hasn't gone up ENOUGH to have something to slide from...
>

You still dont understand, The 21-54 arbs for AAR is a bigger number
than the 12+ arbs number, and that's what advertisers pay for.

The average age for a Limgough listener is "dead" and advertisers pay
less for these old birds. 21-54 is the premium and AAR kicks ass in
that range.

Program-for-program AAR routinely beats O'Reilly, Hannity, etc, in a
city.







--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

[Jafo]

As viewed from alt.california, Al Dykes wrote:

>>> Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
>>> and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
>>> advertisers pay for.

>>Given that there aren't a whole lot of minors listening to talk radio (yes,
>>there are some), it doesn't skew the #s one way or another.

>>> The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a long-term
>>> slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.

>>Only because it hasn't gone up ENOUGH to have something to slide from...

>You still dont understand, The 21-54 arbs for AAR is a bigger number
>than the 12+ arbs number, and that's what advertisers pay for.
>
>The average age for a Limgough listener is "dead" and advertisers pay
>less for these old birds. 21-54 is the premium and AAR kicks ass in
>that range.
>
>Program-for-program AAR routinely beats O'Reilly, Hannity, etc, in a
>city.

You have an incredibile aptitude for spin control.

--
Jafo

[Al Dykes]

In article <***@4ax.com>,
Jafo <***@localhost> wrote:
>As viewed from alt.california, Al Dykes wrote:
>
>>>> Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
>>>> and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
>>>> advertisers pay for.
>
>>>Given that there aren't a whole lot of minors listening to talk radio (yes,
>>>there are some), it doesn't skew the #s one way or another.
>
>>>> The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a long-term
>>>> slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.
>
>>>Only because it hasn't gone up ENOUGH to have something to slide from...
>
>>You still dont understand, The 21-54 arbs for AAR is a bigger number
>>than the 12+ arbs number, and that's what advertisers pay for.
>>
>>The average age for a Limgough listener is "dead" and advertisers pay
>>less for these old birds. 21-54 is the premium and AAR kicks ass in
>>that range.
>>
>>Program-for-program AAR routinely beats O'Reilly, Hannity, etc, in a
>>city.
>
>You have an incredibile aptitude for spin control.



Reality sucks, doesn't it.

AAR is doing fine,




--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

[Stan de SD]

"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
news:e9arlt$fgp$***@panix5.panix.com...
> In article <***@4ax.com>,
> Jafo <***@localhost> wrote:
> >As viewed from alt.california, Al Dykes wrote:
> >
> >>>> Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
> >>>> and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
> >>>> advertisers pay for.
> >
> >>>Given that there aren't a whole lot of minors listening to talk radio
(yes,
> >>>there are some), it doesn't skew the #s one way or another.
> >
> >>>> The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a
long-term
> >>>> slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.
> >
> >>>Only because it hasn't gone up ENOUGH to have something to slide
from...
> >
> >>You still dont understand, The 21-54 arbs for AAR is a bigger number
> >>than the 12+ arbs number, and that's what advertisers pay for.
> >>
> >>The average age for a Limgough listener is "dead" and advertisers pay
> >>less for these old birds. 21-54 is the premium and AAR kicks ass in
> >>that range.
> >>
> >>Program-for-program AAR routinely beats O'Reilly, Hannity, etc, in a
> >>city.
> >
> >You have an incredibile aptitude for spin control.

>
> Reality sucks, doesn't it.
>
> AAR is doing fine,

The data doesn't back you up.

[Al Dykes]

In article <83414$44b92b00$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
>
>"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>news:e9arlt$fgp$***@panix5.panix.com...
>> In article <***@4ax.com>,
>> Jafo <***@localhost> wrote:
>> >As viewed from alt.california, Al Dykes wrote:
>> >
>> >>>> Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
>> >>>> and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
>> >>>> advertisers pay for.
>> >
>> >>>Given that there aren't a whole lot of minors listening to talk radio
>(yes,
>> >>>there are some), it doesn't skew the #s one way or another.
>> >
>> >>>> The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a
>long-term
>> >>>> slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.
>> >
>> >>>Only because it hasn't gone up ENOUGH to have something to slide
>from...
>> >
>> >>You still dont understand, The 21-54 arbs for AAR is a bigger number
>> >>than the 12+ arbs number, and that's what advertisers pay for.
>> >>
>> >>The average age for a Limgough listener is "dead" and advertisers pay
>> >>less for these old birds. 21-54 is the premium and AAR kicks ass in
>> >>that range.
>> >>
>> >>Program-for-program AAR routinely beats O'Reilly, Hannity, etc, in a
>> >>city.
>> >
>> >You have an incredibile aptitude for spin control.
>
>>
>> Reality sucks, doesn't it.
>>
>> AAR is doing fine,
>
>The data doesn't back you up.
>

AAR is doing fine until the day it starts shrinking. It's still
growing. Station owners don't join a network that doesn't make them
money.



--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

[Stan de SD]

"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
news:e9bb6p$c93$***@panix5.panix.com...
> In article <83414$44b92b00$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
> >
> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> >news:e9arlt$fgp$***@panix5.panix.com...
> >> In article <***@4ax.com>,
> >> Jafo <***@localhost> wrote:
> >> >As viewed from alt.california, Al Dykes wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>>> Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over
(12+)
> >> >>>> and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
> >> >>>> advertisers pay for.
> >> >
> >> >>>Given that there aren't a whole lot of minors listening to talk
radio
> >(yes,
> >> >>>there are some), it doesn't skew the #s one way or another.
> >> >
> >> >>>> The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a
> >long-term
> >> >>>> slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.
> >> >
> >> >>>Only because it hasn't gone up ENOUGH to have something to slide
> >from...
> >> >
> >> >>You still dont understand, The 21-54 arbs for AAR is a bigger number
> >> >>than the 12+ arbs number, and that's what advertisers pay for.
> >> >>
> >> >>The average age for a Limgough listener is "dead" and advertisers pay
> >> >>less for these old birds. 21-54 is the premium and AAR kicks ass in
> >> >>that range.
> >> >>
> >> >>Program-for-program AAR routinely beats O'Reilly, Hannity, etc, in a
> >> >>city.
> >> >
> >> >You have an incredibile aptitude for spin control.
> >
> >>
> >> Reality sucks, doesn't it.
> >>
> >> AAR is doing fine,
> >
> >The data doesn't back you up.
> >
>
> AAR is doing fine until the day it starts shrinking. It's still
> growing. Station owners don't join a network that doesn't make them
> money.

Ratings data? Didn't think so...

[Al Dykes]

In article <40cb1$44b971de$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
>
>"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>news:e9bb6p$c93$***@panix5.panix.com...
>> In article <83414$44b92b00$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
>> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>> >news:e9arlt$fgp$***@panix5.panix.com...
>> >> In article <***@4ax.com>,
>> >> Jafo <***@localhost> wrote:
>> >> >As viewed from alt.california, Al Dykes wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>>> Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over
>(12+)
>> >> >>>> and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
>> >> >>>> advertisers pay for.
>> >> >
>> >> >>>Given that there aren't a whole lot of minors listening to talk
>radio
>> >(yes,
>> >> >>>there are some), it doesn't skew the #s one way or another.
>> >> >
>> >> >>>> The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a
>> >long-term
>> >> >>>> slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.
>> >> >
>> >> >>>Only because it hasn't gone up ENOUGH to have something to slide
>> >from...
>> >> >
>> >> >>You still dont understand, The 21-54 arbs for AAR is a bigger number
>> >> >>than the 12+ arbs number, and that's what advertisers pay for.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>The average age for a Limgough listener is "dead" and advertisers pay
>> >> >>less for these old birds. 21-54 is the premium and AAR kicks ass in
>> >> >>that range.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Program-for-program AAR routinely beats O'Reilly, Hannity, etc, in a
>> >> >>city.
>> >> >
>> >> >You have an incredibile aptitude for spin control.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Reality sucks, doesn't it.
>> >>
>> >> AAR is doing fine,
>> >
>> >The data doesn't back you up.
>> >
>>
>> AAR is doing fine until the day it starts shrinking. It's still
>> growing. Station owners don't join a network that doesn't make them
>> money.
>
>Ratings data? Didn't think so...
>
>

People pay million-dollar figures for Stations with seemingly modest
ratings in small population centers. A station in Las Vegas station
(Arb #32, 1.4m people) just changed hands for $25 million. The buyer
expects to make money.

As long as AAR don't shrink it means that each and every station owner
is making a profit that the owner is satisfied with and AAR is getting
enough from those stations to make it's costs and profit.

Lots of stations with low single-digit arbs stay in business for
decades. If they weren't profitable for their owners, they wouldn't

WOR (NYC) with a 12+ arb of 2.2 was reported in the local press to
have been *very* profitable for it's owner last year.

The only people that buy stations or franchise networks without
expecting to run a profit are religious broadcasters. They are working
for that great shareholder in the sky.






--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

[Must be the Antichrist again...]

Al Dykes wrote:
> The only people that buy stations or franchise networks without
> expecting to run a profit are religious broadcasters. They are working
> for that great shareholder in the sky.

Warren Buffett has a UFO?

[Stan de SD]

"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
news:e9c0k0$fl5$***@panix5.panix.com...
>
> As long as AAR don't shrink it means that each and every station owner
> is making a profit that the owner is satisfied with and AAR is getting
> enough from those stations to make it's costs and profit.

Not shrinking doesn't mean shit if the audience never grew in the first
place. Ratings below 1.0 aren't anything to be especially proud of.

[Al Dykes]

In article <567c7$44b9ddff$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
>
>"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>news:e9c0k0$fl5$***@panix5.panix.com...
>>
>> As long as AAR don't shrink it means that each and every station owner
>> is making a profit that the owner is satisfied with and AAR is getting
>> enough from those stations to make it's costs and profit.
>
>Not shrinking doesn't mean shit if the audience never grew in the first
>place. Ratings below 1.0 aren't anything to be especially proud of.
>


You don't have a clue as to how Arb ratings work, how to use them to
compare stations and how arb numbers relate to costs and profits. You
and I don't get to see the real Arb numbers.

You've never heard of most of the people in the "Talker's top 100". I
haven't and I'm in NYC, yet these people and the stations they
broadcast on are happy with the profits and remain on the air for
years.

http://www.talkers.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=44

--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

[No, It's just Steven...]

Al Dykes wrote Satanic Verses for Usenet and then spent the next 5
years dodging bullets until killing Zionists and each other became
fashionable again (man that's silly) and I replied:

> You've never heard of most of the people in the "Talker's top 100". I
> haven't and I'm in NYC, yet these people and the stations they
> broadcast on are happy with the profits and remain on the air for
> years.
>
> http://www.talkers.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=44

Let's assume then they will get along okay while I listen to Harold
Melvin and the Blue Notes and Mama Cass on the AM down the street..

> --
> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>
> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

My signature isn't proud but the bank won't fork over my money without
it.

Does your horse have an MP3 player and alarm system?

[Cheeks]

Stan de SD wrote:
> "Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:e9c0k0$fl5$***@panix5.panix.com...
>> As long as AAR don't shrink it means that each and every station owner
>> is making a profit that the owner is satisfied with and AAR is getting
>> enough from those stations to make it's costs and profit.
>
> Not shrinking doesn't mean shit if the audience never grew in the first
> place. Ratings below 1.0 aren't anything to be especially proud of.
>
>
How shall I say it,, FUCK YOU. No one gives a shit what
right wing zeroes like you think about anything.

--
June 30, 2006:

On Tuesday, the Mexican foreign secretary went on a radio program in
Mexico City and said,
“If there is a real wave of rights abuses, if we see the National Guard
starting to directly
participate in detaining people, we would immediately start filing
lawsuits through our
consulates.”

Last night, O’Reilly fired back:

“Okay then, Mr. Secretary. Here’s a no-spin message right back to you.
If the Mexican
government files one lawsuit in the USA, one, pertaining to the National
Guard, I will call for
a total boycott of Mexican goods and no travel to your country. Now that
might sound
presumptuous and I don’t mean to be threatening, but enough’s enough. It
is your
government’s fault, sir, that there is border chaos. We in America have
a right to security
and a right to expect our immigration laws be enforced. So, once again,
any action by the
Mexican government that impacts border security in the USA will be met
with a boycott
call. And if you don’t believe me or you think it doesn’t matter, Mr.
Secretary, why don’t you
give the French ambassador a call. He’ll fill you in.”

If you do call the French ambassador, chances are he will say something
to the effect of,
“Monsieur, monsieur, le boycott d'O'Reilly est fantastique!”

You see, O’Reilly called for a boycott in 2003 in response to France’s
lack of support for the
U.S. military action in Iraq. Let’s take a look at the results:

2002: Pre-Factor Boycott
French exports to the U.S. total $28.2 billion.

2003: Factor Boycott Begins
French exports to the U.S. increase a billion dollars to $29.2 billion.

2004: Factor Boycott Year 2
French exports to the U.S. increase more than $2 billion to $31.6 billion.

2005: Factor Boycott Year 3
French exports to the U.S. again increase more than $2 billion to $33.8
billion.

Wow, from $28.2 billion to $33.8 billion. So, according to the Foreign
Trade Division of the U.S.
Census Bureau, the Factor boycott of France has enabled France to
increase its exports to the
U.S. by $5.6 billion. So foreign powers be warned: You better think long
and hard before getting
on the wrong side of one Mr. William J. O’Reilly Jr., or you’ll be faced
with an onslaught of
economic growth the likes of which you’ve never imagined. Suck on that,
Mexico.

But for the sake of argument, let’s say we did get into a pissing match
with our neighbor to the
south. As we pointed out when O’Reilly threatened Canada with a boycott,
we’re a country
that’s rather dependent on foreign oil. What O’Reilly doesn’t appear to
know, however, is that
we import more crude oil from Mexico than from Saudi Arabia. In fact,
Mexico and Canada are
the largest exporters of oil to the U.S.

So before O’Reilly starts threatening to pull out the aces in our little
house-of-cards economy,
he might want to have that crack staff do a 30-second Google search. We
need Mexico more
than we need Saudi Arabia. So let’s not piss ‘em off too much, El
Presidente O’Reilly.

Until then, we’re anxious to see this O’Reilly boycott fail, as have all
the others that came
before it. He really is the craziest man on television.

-as reported on _www.sweetjesusihatebilloreilly.com_

[No, It's just Steven...]

Do any of you maggots besides Stan de SD and Hal Womack 3-Dan know
ba.broadcast is about RADIO AND TELEVISION and not trolls with infected
vaginas ruining their mascara over shit that only THEY and THEY ALONG
think isn't the mark of somebody with sideeffects from a
prescription???

Nobody cares, use a large caliber weapon and end all your misery or
something.

Babbling fucktards...the nurse is here to change your head wound
dressing.

[Stan de SD]

"Cheeks" <_> wrote in message news:44bb29a9$***@nntp.zianet.com...
> Stan de SD wrote:
> > "Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> > news:e9c0k0$fl5$***@panix5.panix.com...
> >> As long as AAR don't shrink it means that each and every station owner
> >> is making a profit that the owner is satisfied with and AAR is getting
> >> enough from those stations to make it's costs and profit.
> >
> > Not shrinking doesn't mean shit if the audience never grew in the first
> > place. Ratings below 1.0 aren't anything to be especially proud of.
> >
> >
> How shall I say it,, FUCK YOU. No one gives a shit what
> right wing zeroes like you think about anything.

So this is your way of letting us know that you lost the argument, right?

[Al Dykes]

In article <f8eb$44bc93f2$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
>
>"Cheeks" <_> wrote in message news:44bb29a9$***@nntp.zianet.com...
>> Stan de SD wrote:
>> > "Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>> > news:e9c0k0$fl5$***@panix5.panix.com...
>> >> As long as AAR don't shrink it means that each and every station owner
>> >> is making a profit that the owner is satisfied with and AAR is getting
>> >> enough from those stations to make it's costs and profit.
>> >
>> > Not shrinking doesn't mean shit if the audience never grew in the first
>> > place. Ratings below 1.0 aren't anything to be especially proud of.
>> >
>> >
>> How shall I say it,, FUCK YOU. No one gives a shit what
>> right wing zeroes like you think about anything.
>
>So this is your way of letting us know that you lost the argument, right?
>
>


While you children have been practicing your social skills, Air
America has announced another station (Sheridan, WY - KYTI-FM HD
93.7-3 FM) and the Spring Arbs are out. I went down the list starting
from #1 (NY, UP) down to about the #15 market and most of them are UP
or Flat.

Randi is kicking ratings ass in her home town, West Palm Springs and
she just signed up for a 4 year contract.

AAR is doing fine.



--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

[No, It's just Steven...]

Al Dykes wrote:
> In article <f8eb$44bc93f2$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
> >
> >"Cheeks" <_> wrote in message news:44bb29a9$***@nntp.zianet.com...
> >> Stan de SD wrote:
> >> > "Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:e9c0k0$fl5$***@panix5.panix.com...
> >> >> As long as AAR don't shrink it means that each and every station owner
> >> >> is making a profit that the owner is satisfied with and AAR is getting
> >> >> enough from those stations to make it's costs and profit.
> >> >
> >> > Not shrinking doesn't mean shit if the audience never grew in the first
> >> > place. Ratings below 1.0 aren't anything to be especially proud of.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> How shall I say it,, FUCK YOU. No one gives a shit what
> >> right wing zeroes like you think about anything.
> >
> >So this is your way of letting us know that you lost the argument, right?
> >
> >
>
>
> While you children have been practicing your social skills, Air
> America has announced another station (Sheridan, WY - KYTI-FM HD
> 93.7-3 FM) and the Spring Arbs are out. I went down the list starting
> from #1 (NY, UP) down to about the #15 market and most of them are UP
> or Flat.
>
> Randi is kicking ratings ass in her home town, West Palm Springs and
> she just signed up for a 4 year contract.
>
> AAR is doing fine.
>
>
>
> --
> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>
> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

That's GREAT! It doesn't take two weeks to make your point though. Neil
Ypung seems to be doing okay too BTW.

I'm 40, to answer your challenge, I AM registered as a Democrat and
have been without change since June 26, 1984 (18), nobody worth a toot
has run in 32 years for President but I hang on, and I have to cut 3-4
groups again to satisfy Google Groups' crossposting.requirements again.
None of this to my knowledge is still worth a 7 Eleven burrito. I'm
glad you have what you like, my favorite things have tubes and
transistors and this box merely helps me buy and fix those things. I
put it together from broken computers, just like almost everything else
I like.

You need but 1 chance to say comething and then it's wasted trying to
convince others who already know what they know. Did you ever win
fights in grade school, or did you solve the problem without them and
move on?

Getting there despite diplomacy is where it's at. Your dogma may eat
your catma.

[No, It's just Steven...]

No, It's just Steven... wrote:
> Al Dykes wrote:
> > In article <f8eb$44bc93f2$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> > Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >"Cheeks" <_> wrote in message news:44bb29a9$***@nntp.zianet.com...
> > >> Stan de SD wrote:
> > >> > "Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> > >> > news:e9c0k0$fl5$***@panix5.panix.com...
> > >> >> As long as AAR don't shrink it means that each and every station owner
> > >> >> is making a profit that the owner is satisfied with and AAR is getting
> > >> >> enough from those stations to make it's costs and profit.
> > >> >
> > >> > Not shrinking doesn't mean shit if the audience never grew in the first
> > >> > place. Ratings below 1.0 aren't anything to be especially proud of.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> How shall I say it,, FUCK YOU. No one gives a shit what
> > >> right wing zeroes like you think about anything.
> > >
> > >So this is your way of letting us know that you lost the argument, right?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > While you children have been practicing your social skills, Air
> > America has announced another station (Sheridan, WY - KYTI-FM HD
> > 93.7-3 FM) and the Spring Arbs are out. I went down the list starting
> > from #1 (NY, UP) down to about the #15 market and most of them are UP
> > or Flat.
> >
> > Randi is kicking ratings ass in her home town, West Palm Springs and
> > she just signed up for a 4 year contract.
> >
> > AAR is doing fine.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
> >
> > Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>
> That's GREAT! It doesn't take two weeks to make your point though. Neil
> Ypung seems to be doing okay too BTW.
>
> I'm 40, to answer your challenge, I AM registered as a Democrat and
> have been without change since June 26, 1984 (18), nobody worth a toot
> has run in 32 years for President but I hang on, and I have to cut 3-4
> groups again to satisfy Google Groups' crossposting.requirements again.
> None of this to my knowledge is still worth a 7 Eleven burrito. I'm
> glad you have what you like, my favorite things have tubes and
> transistors and this box merely helps me buy and fix those things. I
> put it together from broken computers, just like almost everything else
> I like.
>
> You need but 1 chance to say comething and then it's wasted trying to
> convince others who already know what they know. Did you ever win
> fights in grade school, or did you solve the problem without them and
> move on?
>
> Getting there despite diplomacy is where it's at. Your dogma may eat
> your catma.

Oh, yes. Al Franken wasn't funny on SNL either and A. Whitney Brown
could beat him senseless with metaphor alone. Sorry. Rush on a donkey
(it complains too).

[No, It's just Steven...]

You said it was on an HD multicast subchannel?

Most people in Sheridan would be lucky to get decent TV reception
without cable. HD THREE?

Great. That's what Joey in his Ford Fairmont Zephyr will listen to
going to the Maverick C-store to save 4 cents a gallon with his
Maverick Adventure Card and get 2 Gatorades for $2 plus tax (don't
question they are based in Lander and all over Idaho too).

Everyone in the reservation towns will run to Cheyenne or Rock Springs
to find one of those things. Philo Farnsworth will rise from the grave
and build sets for the masses in Kemmerer.

Hey, I've about run out of Wyoming! Give me a break or I'll need to
import Montanans.

[David Eduardo]

"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
news:e9ia6t$eve$***@panix5.panix.com...

>
> While you children have been practicing your social skills, Air
> America has announced another station (Sheridan, WY - KYTI-FM HD
> 93.7-3 FM)

Now that is a huge market.

>and the Spring Arbs are out. I went down the list starting
> from #1 (NY, UP) down to about the #15 market and most of them are UP
> or Flat.

You must have a crystal ball,, because the ONLY Sprring Arbitrons that are
out are New York and its embedded metros and Riverside /San Bernardino,
where AA is on a miserable no-show daytimer. In other words, two markets are
out. Not even LA nor Chicago are out yet! Thus, your claim is a bit suspect
>
> Randi is kicking ratings ass in her home town, West Palm Springs and
> she just signed up for a 4 year contract.

The only thing West of Palm Springs is Mt. San Jacinto.

Randi is form the Palm Beaches, and that book is not out for 10 days.

[Cheeks]

Jafo wrote:
> As viewed from alt.california, Al Dykes wrote:
>
>>>> Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
>>>> and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
>>>> advertisers pay for.
>
>>> Given that there aren't a whole lot of minors listening to talk radio (yes,
>>> there are some), it doesn't skew the #s one way or another.
>
>>>> The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a long-term
>>>> slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.
>
>>> Only because it hasn't gone up ENOUGH to have something to slide from...
>
>> You still dont understand, The 21-54 arbs for AAR is a bigger number
>> than the 12+ arbs number, and that's what advertisers pay for.
>>
>> The average age for a Limgough listener is "dead" and advertisers pay
>> less for these old birds. 21-54 is the premium and AAR kicks ass in
>> that range.
>>
>> Program-for-program AAR routinely beats O'Reilly, Hannity, etc, in a
>> city.
>
> You have an incredibile aptitude for spin control.
>
> --
> Jafo

And you are such a chronic fucking right wing liar!

--
June 30, 2006:

On Tuesday, the Mexican foreign secretary went on a radio program in
Mexico City and said,
“If there is a real wave of rights abuses, if we see the National Guard
starting to directly
participate in detaining people, we would immediately start filing
lawsuits through our
consulates.”

Last night, O’Reilly fired back:

“Okay then, Mr. Secretary. Here’s a no-spin message right back to you.
If the Mexican
government files one lawsuit in the USA, one, pertaining to the National
Guard, I will call for
a total boycott of Mexican goods and no travel to your country. Now that
might sound
presumptuous and I don’t mean to be threatening, but enough’s enough. It
is your
government’s fault, sir, that there is border chaos. We in America have
a right to security
and a right to expect our immigration laws be enforced. So, once again,
any action by the
Mexican government that impacts border security in the USA will be met
with a boycott
call. And if you don’t believe me or you think it doesn’t matter, Mr.
Secretary, why don’t you
give the French ambassador a call. He’ll fill you in.”

If you do call the French ambassador, chances are he will say something
to the effect of,
“Monsieur, monsieur, le boycott d'O'Reilly est fantastique!”

You see, O’Reilly called for a boycott in 2003 in response to France’s
lack of support for the
U.S. military action in Iraq. Let’s take a look at the results:

2002: Pre-Factor Boycott
French exports to the U.S. total $28.2 billion.

2003: Factor Boycott Begins
French exports to the U.S. increase a billion dollars to $29.2 billion.

2004: Factor Boycott Year 2
French exports to the U.S. increase more than $2 billion to $31.6 billion.

2005: Factor Boycott Year 3
French exports to the U.S. again increase more than $2 billion to $33.8
billion.

Wow, from $28.2 billion to $33.8 billion. So, according to the Foreign
Trade Division of the U.S.
Census Bureau, the Factor boycott of France has enabled France to
increase its exports to the
U.S. by $5.6 billion. So foreign powers be warned: You better think long
and hard before getting
on the wrong side of one Mr. William J. O’Reilly Jr., or you’ll be faced
with an onslaught of
economic growth the likes of which you’ve never imagined. Suck on that,
Mexico.

But for the sake of argument, let’s say we did get into a pissing match
with our neighbor to the
south. As we pointed out when O’Reilly threatened Canada with a boycott,
we’re a country
that’s rather dependent on foreign oil. What O’Reilly doesn’t appear to
know, however, is that
we import more crude oil from Mexico than from Saudi Arabia. In fact,
Mexico and Canada are
the largest exporters of oil to the U.S.

So before O’Reilly starts threatening to pull out the aces in our little
house-of-cards economy,
he might want to have that crack staff do a 30-second Google search. We
need Mexico more
than we need Saudi Arabia. So let’s not piss ‘em off too much, El
Presidente O’Reilly.

Until then, we’re anxious to see this O’Reilly boycott fail, as have all
the others that came
before it. He really is the craziest man on television.

-as reported on _www.sweetjesusihatebilloreilly.com_

[No, It's just Steven...]

On the last episode of "Re: Why is Air America such a failure?"...

Cheeks was heard to make a rather bold statement--

> And you are such a chronic fucking right wing liar!

In the fairness and balance of things and in a need for full
disclosure,

Do you have any relation to this example or others and have you ever
been a chronic fucking right wing liar?

Have you been or do you have any qualifications as a chronic fucking
LEFT wing liar?

and have your fucking lying or ficking anti-lying pursuits ever been
supported by this or a foreign power

or someone named, "Benny" who sends wired money from Des Moines, Iowa?

If you really must send this crap to bug ba.broadcast, send it to
leanstotheleft or either David.

Air America is an old movie.

thanks and suffer an aneurism, Dr. Antichrist PhD

[Jafo]

As viewed from alt.california, No, It's just Steven... wrote:

>On the last episode of "Re: Why is Air America such a failure?"
>Cheeks was heard to make a rather bold statement--
>>And you are such a chronic fucking right wing liar!

>In the fairness and balance of things and in a need for full
>disclosure,
>
>Do you have any relation to this example or others and have you
>ever been a chronic fucking right wing liar?
>
>Have you been or do you have any qualifications as a chronic
>fucking LEFT wing liar?

While you're at it, ask him about another subject that he seems
familiar with... :)

"You suck right wing cocks in hell, mister."
- Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:11:46 -0600
From: Cheeks <_
Subject: Re: Who cares?
Message-ID: <44b981a0$***@nntp.zianet.com

"And thank YOU for continuing to suck right wing dick
on the internet!"
- Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:03:56 -0600
From: Cheeks <_
Subject: Re: Who cares?
Message-ID: <44b97fca$***@nntp.zianet.com

"Sounds like you right wing cocksuckers and your
idiotic political philosophies.."
- Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:54:43 -0600
From: Cheeks <_
Subject: Re: Why is Air America such a failure?
Message-ID: <***@nntp.zianet.com

"You suck right wing cocks on the internet with all
of the other Dittos.."
- Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:47:27 -0600
From: Cheeks <_
Subject: Re: Why is Air America such a failure?
Message-ID: <44bb13c2$***@nntp.zianet.com

"Eat a dick, Loser."
- Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:45:37 -0600
From: Cheeks <_>
Subject: Re: Why is Air America such a failure?
Message-ID: <44bb1353$***@nntp.zianet.com>

"Why do YOU suck, Jafo?"
- Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:06:49 -0600
From: Cheeks <_>
Subject: Re: Why is Air America such a failure?
Message-ID: <44bb265c$***@nntp.zianet.com>

"So, why don't YOU just go suck a dick?"
- Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:19:55 -0600
From: Cheeks <_>
Subject: Re: Why is Air America such a failure?
Message-ID: <44bb296e$***@nntp.zianet.com>

"Face it, you're another pathetic little right wing turd
who sucks right wing dick regularly on the internet."
- Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:49:35 -0600
From: Cheeks <_>
Subject: Re: Why is Air America such a failure?
Message-ID: <***@nntp.zianet.com>

--
Jafo

[No, It's just Steven...]

Jafo wrote:
> As viewed from alt.california, No, It's just Steven... wrote:
>
> >On the last episode of "Re: Why is Air America such a failure?"
> >Cheeks was heard to make a rather bold statement--
> >>And you are such a chronic fucking right wing liar!
>
> >In the fairness and balance of things and in a need for full
> >disclosure,
> >
> >Do you have any relation to this example or others and have you
> >ever been a chronic fucking right wing liar?
> >
> >Have you been or do you have any qualifications as a chronic
> >fucking LEFT wing liar?
>
> While you're at it, ask him about another subject that he seems
> familiar with... :)
>
> "You suck right wing cocks in hell, mister."
> - Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:11:46 -0600
> From: Cheeks <_
> Subject: Re: Who cares?
> Message-ID: <44b981a0$***@nntp.zianet.com
>
> "And thank YOU for continuing to suck right wing dick
> on the internet!"
> - Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:03:56 -0600
> From: Cheeks <_
> Subject: Re: Who cares?
> Message-ID: <44b97fca$***@nntp.zianet.com
>
> "Sounds like you right wing cocksuckers and your
> idiotic political philosophies.."
> - Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:54:43 -0600
> From: Cheeks <_
> Subject: Re: Why is Air America such a failure?
> Message-ID: <***@nntp.zianet.com
>
> "You suck right wing cocks on the internet with all
> of the other Dittos.."
> - Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:47:27 -0600
> From: Cheeks <_
> Subject: Re: Why is Air America such a failure?
> Message-ID: <44bb13c2$***@nntp.zianet.com
>
> "Eat a dick, Loser."
> - Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:45:37 -0600
> From: Cheeks <_>
> Subject: Re: Why is Air America such a failure?
> Message-ID: <44bb1353$***@nntp.zianet.com>
>
> "Why do YOU suck, Jafo?"
> - Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:06:49 -0600
> From: Cheeks <_>
> Subject: Re: Why is Air America such a failure?
> Message-ID: <44bb265c$***@nntp.zianet.com>
>
> "So, why don't YOU just go suck a dick?"
> - Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:19:55 -0600
> From: Cheeks <_>
> Subject: Re: Why is Air America such a failure?
> Message-ID: <44bb296e$***@nntp.zianet.com>
>
> "Face it, you're another pathetic little right wing turd
> who sucks right wing dick regularly on the internet."
> - Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:49:35 -0600
> From: Cheeks <_>
> Subject: Re: Why is Air America such a failure?
> Message-ID: <***@nntp.zianet.com>
>
> --
> Jafo

Probably where the nym came from, but tell me...

WHY do you guys even bother? What the hell matters that any group of
people have to spend more than 15 posts on any political subject
normally? Do you believe the games they play on these programs actually
have any useful purpose 75% of the time and don't some guys just get
LUCKY and hit the nail?

Wouldn't it be nicer to play Neil Young or BB King or even Prokofiev if
you are so inclined and plan dinner?

Reality doesn't live here nor there. Reality is what makes your nose
itchy and your eyelids blink. Your reality scarcely qualifies to
influence other realities any more than mine. Do you want to be happy?
Make yourself.

THIS is just writing stuff. Yelling with a keyboard after the fact. Of
7 billion people on earth, 5 or 6 individuals may reply and you won't
matter to almost all of Earth. You change nothing here and you have no
effective audience.

One complicated coffeeshop chat. What do you do about that?

PS MY email address is REAL and open, if you can stand to remove your
coccoon and fly.

[Jafo]

Frustrated because he has nothing to say, a tearful Cheeks lashed
out with:

>Jafo wrote:
>>Al Dykes wrote:
>>>>>The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a
>>>>>long-term slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened,
>>>>>so far.

>>>>Only because it hasn't gone up ENOUGH to have something to slide
>>>>from...

>>>You still dont understand, The 21-54 arbs for AAR is a bigger
>>>number than the 12+ arbs number, and that's what advertisers pay
>>>for.
>>>
>>>The average age for a Limgough listener is "dead" and advertisers
>>>pay less for these old birds. 21-54 is the premium and AAR kicks
>>>ass in that range.
>>>
>>>Program-for-program AAR routinely beats O'Reilly, Hannity, etc, in
>>>a city.

>>You have an incredibile aptitude for spin control.

>And you are such a chronic fucking right wing liar!

Cite?

--
Jafo

[Stan de SD]

"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
news:e9akr5$no4$***@panix5.panix.com...
> In article <362ab$44b89262$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
> >
> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> >news:e99geg$7ro$***@panix5.panix.com...
> >> In article <6ecd6$44b843a9$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> >> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:e98efv$a86$***@panix5.panix.com...
> >> >> In article <49872$44b7bb65$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> >> >> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"grinder" <***@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:KDNtg.8418$***@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Stan de SD" <***@covad.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:8b38f$44b73aef$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "grinder" <***@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:2Fttg.7315$***@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "WuzYoungOnceToo2" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in
message
> >> >> >> >> news:***@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> >> > grinder wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> I am listening right now!!! I will get back to you when I
> >can't
> >> >> >find
> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> >> >> on
> >> >> >> >> >> the dial anymore.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Great! They're up to 3!
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> They're on the air right now. That's all that is important to
> >me.
> >> >In
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> meantime keep counting.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > So we're almost up to 4?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I'm listening and there is not a damn thing you can do about it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Listen all you want for all I care, and go ahead pretending that
Air
> >> >America
> >> >> >is some broadcasting powerhouse. It's a flop, and anyone who has
any
> >idea
> >> >of
> >> >> >what's going on in the broadcasting industry knows it.
> >> >>
> >> >> "anyone who has any idea of what's going on in the broadcasting
> >> >> industry knows it."
> >> >>
> >> >> Cite? Or are you just Making Shit Up.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Here's your cite: Radio & Ratings:
> >http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRRatings/
> >> >for selected markets in CA.
> >> >============================
> >> >
> >> >Los Angeles, CA (#2)
> >> > 12+ Population: 10,790,100 Updated: Jun 20, 2006
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
> >> and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
> >> advertisers pay for.
> >
> >Given that there aren't a whole lot of minors listening to talk radio
(yes,
> >there are some), it doesn't skew the #s one way or another.
> >
> >
> >> The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a long-term
> >> slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.
> >
> >Only because it hasn't gone up ENOUGH to have something to slide from...
> >
>
> You still dont understand, The 21-54 arbs for AAR is a bigger number
> than the 12+ arbs number, and that's what advertisers pay for.
>
> The average age for a Limgough listener is "dead" and advertisers pay
> less for these old birds. 21-54 is the premium and AAR kicks ass in
> that range.

Uh, 21-54 IS the age demographic for Rush listeners. You're in denial.

>
> Program-for-program AAR routinely beats O'Reilly, Hannity, etc, in a
> city.

And the evidence is where? I posted all the ratings for the major California
markets, and it ain't there. You're going to have to present some other data
to back up your argument.

[Jafo]

As viewed from alt.california, Stan de SD wrote:

>>You still dont understand, The 21-54 arbs for AAR is a bigger
>>number than the 12+ arbs number, and that's what advertisers pay
>>for.
>>
>>The average age for a Limgough listener is "dead" and advertisers
>>pay less for these old birds. 21-54 is the premium and AAR kicks
>>ass in that range.

>Uh, 21-54 IS the age demographic for Rush listeners. You're in
>denial.

>>Program-for-program AAR routinely beats O'Reilly, Hannity, etc,
>>in a city.

>And the evidence is where? I posted all the ratings for the major
>California markets, and it ain't there. You're going to have to
>present some other data to back up your argument.

Nah. He'll just continue to spin in hopes of convincing people
that less is more.

--
Jafo

[Al Dykes]

In article <b343e$44b92acf$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
>
>"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>news:e9akr5$no4$***@panix5.panix.com...
>> In article <362ab$44b89262$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
>> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>> >news:e99geg$7ro$***@panix5.panix.com...
>> >> In article <6ecd6$44b843a9$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
>> >> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:e98efv$a86$***@panix5.panix.com...
>> >> >> In article <49872$44b7bb65$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
>> >> >> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"grinder" <***@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:KDNtg.8418$***@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Stan de SD" <***@covad.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:8b38f$44b73aef$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "grinder" <***@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> > news:2Fttg.7315$***@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "WuzYoungOnceToo2" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in
>message
>> >> >> >> >> news:***@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >> >> > grinder wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> I am listening right now!!! I will get back to you when I
>> >can't
>> >> >> >find
>> >> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> >> >> the dial anymore.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Great! They're up to 3!
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> They're on the air right now. That's all that is important to
>> >me.
>> >> >In
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> meantime keep counting.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > So we're almost up to 4?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I'm listening and there is not a damn thing you can do about it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Listen all you want for all I care, and go ahead pretending that
>Air
>> >> >America
>> >> >> >is some broadcasting powerhouse. It's a flop, and anyone who has
>any
>> >idea
>> >> >of
>> >> >> >what's going on in the broadcasting industry knows it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "anyone who has any idea of what's going on in the broadcasting
>> >> >> industry knows it."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cite? Or are you just Making Shit Up.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Here's your cite: Radio & Ratings:
>> >http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRRatings/
>> >> >for selected markets in CA.
>> >> >============================
>> >> >
>> >> >Los Angeles, CA (#2)
>> >> > 12+ Population: 10,790,100 Updated: Jun 20, 2006
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
>> >> and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
>> >> advertisers pay for.
>> >
>> >Given that there aren't a whole lot of minors listening to talk radio
>(yes,
>> >there are some), it doesn't skew the #s one way or another.
>> >
>> >
>> >> The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a long-term
>> >> slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.
>> >
>> >Only because it hasn't gone up ENOUGH to have something to slide from...
>> >
>>
>> You still dont understand, The 21-54 arbs for AAR is a bigger number
>> than the 12+ arbs number, and that's what advertisers pay for.
>>
>> The average age for a Limgough listener is "dead" and advertisers pay
>> less for these old birds. 21-54 is the premium and AAR kicks ass in
>> that range.
>
>Uh, 21-54 IS the age demographic for Rush listeners. You're in denial.
>
>>
>> Program-for-program AAR routinely beats O'Reilly, Hannity, etc, in a
>> city.
>
>And the evidence is where? I posted all the ratings for the major California
>markets, and it ain't there. You're going to have to present some other data
>to back up your argument.
>
>

I said show-for-show in adult arbs.

The 12+ arbs on the public website are for the entire day (except
midnight-6AM). Occasionally industry papers publics the private arbs
for a specific show. AAR does OK in these arbs many times.











--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

[Must be the Antichrist again...]

I didn't see the movie either.

Are you trying to crosspost a NEW network, Al?

[Stan de SD]

"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
news:e9bb35$9fu$***@panix5.panix.com...
> In article <b343e$44b92acf$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
> >
> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> >news:e9akr5$no4$***@panix5.panix.com...
> >> In article <362ab$44b89262$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> >> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:e99geg$7ro$***@panix5.panix.com...
> >> >> In article
<6ecd6$44b843a9$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> >> >> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:e98efv$a86$***@panix5.panix.com...
> >> >> >> In article
<49872$44b7bb65$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> >> >> >> Stan de SD <***@covad.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >"grinder" <***@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >news:KDNtg.8418$***@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Stan de SD" <***@covad.net> wrote in
message
> >> >> >> >> news:8b38f$44b73aef$45035f0d$***@msgid.meganewsservers.com...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > "grinder" <***@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> > news:2Fttg.7315$***@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> "WuzYoungOnceToo2" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in
> >message
> >> >> >> >> >>
news:***@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> >> >> > grinder wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> I am listening right now!!! I will get back to you when
I
> >> >can't
> >> >> >> >find
> >> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> >> >> >> on
> >> >> >> >> >> >> the dial anymore.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Great! They're up to 3!
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> They're on the air right now. That's all that is important
to
> >> >me.
> >> >> >In
> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> meantime keep counting.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > So we're almost up to 4?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I'm listening and there is not a damn thing you can do about
it.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Listen all you want for all I care, and go ahead pretending that
> >Air
> >> >> >America
> >> >> >> >is some broadcasting powerhouse. It's a flop, and anyone who has
> >any
> >> >idea
> >> >> >of
> >> >> >> >what's going on in the broadcasting industry knows it.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "anyone who has any idea of what's going on in the
broadcasting
> >> >> >> industry knows it."
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Cite? Or are you just Making Shit Up.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Here's your cite: Radio & Ratings:
> >> >http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRRatings/
> >> >> >for selected markets in CA.
> >> >> >============================
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Los Angeles, CA (#2)
> >> >> > 12+ Population: 10,790,100 Updated: Jun 20, 2006
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Wrong! What you show is the Arbs for all listeners 12 or over (12+)
> >> >> and those numbers don't indicate the adult audience which is what
> >> >> advertisers pay for.
> >> >
> >> >Given that there aren't a whole lot of minors listening to talk radio
> >(yes,
> >> >there are some), it doesn't skew the #s one way or another.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> The only way you and I will know that AAR is in trouble is a
long-term
> >> >> slide in the number of stations. It hasn't happened, so far.
> >> >
> >> >Only because it hasn't gone up ENOUGH to have something to slide
from...
> >> >
> >>
> >> You still dont understand, The 21-54 arbs for AAR is a bigger number
> >> than the 12+ arbs number, and that's what advertisers pay for.
> >>
> >> The average age for a Limgough listener is "dead" and advertisers pay
> >> less for these old birds. 21-54 is the premium and AAR kicks ass in
> >> that range.
> >
> >Uh, 21-54 IS the age demographic for Rush listeners. You're in denial.
> >
> >>
> >> Program-for-program AAR routinely beats O'Reilly, Hannity, etc, in a
> >> city.
> >
> >And the evidence is where? I posted all the ratings for the major
California
> >markets, and it ain't there. You're going to have to present some other
data
> >to back up your argument.
> >
> >
>
> I said show-for-show in adult arbs.

Present your data, please.

[j***@pacbell.net]

Stan de SD writes:


> San Diego, CA (#17)
> 12+ Population: 2,484,900 Updated: Jun 20, 2006
>
> KOGO (600 AM, Rush, Dr. Laura, Roger Hedgecock) = 3.4
> KFMB (760 AM, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage) = 3.4
> KFI (640 AM, Rush Limbaugh, Dr. Laura, John & Ken) = 2.8
> KLSD (Air America) = 1.7

Among large cities in California, San Diego has perhaps
the highest proportion of non-California natives,
where by "native," I'll arbitrarily specify at least
20 years residence for people over 21, or
for at least all but one year of their lives for persons
under 21. Nativeness might be defined as the degree
of assimilation.

Thus a foreign born person in L.A.
might eventually become "native," which is
only to be expected as memories of the
birth land fades. In fact, such a person
has managed to be elected governor. My definition
isn't far off.

And what the poster has convincingly proved --
take note -- is that San Diego's population comes
straight out of Bumfuckia.

This is overwhelmingly a blue state. Except for an
unpleasant little town on the north end of the Tejon
Pass which was run by Klansmen well into the 1960s,
no part of this state is culturally part of the old
Confederacy. If San Diegans don't like it, no one forced
them to come. The US Navy hasn't drawn recruits from
the pressure of an army draft since 1973.

(The poster had originally posted to a
large number of trashy alt. newgroups. I have
removed them.)

[David Eduardo]

<***@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:***@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> Stan de SD writes:
>
>
>> San Diego, CA (#17)
>> 12+ Population: 2,484,900 Updated: Jun 20, 2006
>>
>> KOGO (600 AM, Rush, Dr. Laura, Roger Hedgecock) = 3.4
>> KFMB (760 AM, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage) = 3.4
>> KFI (640 AM, Rush Limbaugh, Dr. Laura, John & Ken) = 2.8
>> KLSD (Air America) = 1.7
>
> Among large cities in California, San Diego has perhaps
> the highest proportion of non-California natives,

LA has about 40% foreign born. San Diego is about 15%, and "imports" from
other states are no longer that high a the cost of housing is nearly
comparable with the Silicon Valley.

> where by "native," I'll arbitrarily specify at least
> 20 years residence for people over 21, or
> for at least all but one year of their lives for persons
> under 21. Nativeness might be defined as the degree
> of assimilation.
>
> Thus a foreign born person in L.A.
> might eventually become "native," which is
> only to be expected as memories of the
> birth land fades. In fact, such a person
> has managed to be elected governor. My definition
> isn't far off.

Most have memories of the homeland for all thier life. Assimilation does not
mean you forget. It means you learn new things in addition to the old ones.

[Must be the Antichrist again...]

David Eduardo wrote:
> <***@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:***@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> > Stan de SD writes:
> >
> >
> >> San Diego, CA (#17)
> >> 12+ Population: 2,484,900 Updated: Jun 20, 2006
> >>
> >> KOGO (600 AM, Rush, Dr. Laura, Roger Hedgecock) = 3.4
> >> KFMB (760 AM, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage) = 3.4
> >> KFI (640 AM, Rush Limbaugh, Dr. Laura, John & Ken) = 2.8
> >> KLSD (Air America) = 1.7
> >
> > Among large cities in California, San Diego has perhaps
> > the highest proportion of non-California natives,
>
> LA has about 40% foreign born. San Diego is about 15%, and "imports" from
> other states are no longer that high a the cost of housing is nearly
> comparable with the Silicon Valley.
>
> > where by "native," I'll arbitrarily specify at least
> > 20 years residence for people over 21, or
> > for at least all but one year of their lives for persons
> > under 21. Nativeness might be defined as the degree
> > of assimilation.
> >
> > Thus a foreign born person in L.A.
> > might eventually become "native," which is
> > only to be expected as memories of the
> > birth land fades. In fact, such a person
> > has managed to be elected governor. My definition
> > isn't far off.
>
> Most have memories of the homeland for all thier life. Assimilation does not
> mean you forget. It means you learn new things in addition to the old ones.

I tried to forget Nampa, Idaho...that was mean : ) But I legally
immigrated to Nyssa, Oregon in 1978 (sibling of the head immigrant you
know)...I'm an Oregon-American all the way, a Duck till I die.

[j***@pacbell.net]

Must be the Antichrist again... writes:


> I tried to forget Nampa, Idaho...that was mean : ) But I legally
> immigrated to Nyssa, Oregon in 1978 (sibling of the head immigrant you
> know)...I'm an Oregon-American all the way, a Duck till I die.

"AFLAC!"

[Must be the Antichrist again...]

***@pacbell.net wrote:
> Must be the Antichrist again... writes:
>
>
> > I tried to forget Nampa, Idaho...that was mean : ) But I legally
> > immigrated to Nyssa, Oregon in 1978 (sibling of the head immigrant you
> > know)...I'm an Oregon-American all the way, a Duck till I die.
>
> "AFLAC!"

Can he play football or pitch?

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examples. Dean calls Vice-President Cheney "the architect of Bush's
authoritarian policies," and deems Bush "a mental lightweight with a
strong right-wing authoritarian personality." Dean maintains that
conservatives without conscience have produced such a hostile,
noncollegial environment in Congress that threats of resistance through
filibusters have been met with threats of a "nuclear option" and that
conservatives have used fearmongering about terrorist attacks to the
point where the nation faces a greater threat of relinquishing its
ideals of democracy. Dean appeals to conservatives to find their
consciences and to all Americans to take serious heed of what is going
on in the nation. Readers of all political perspectives will find this
book riveting. /Vanessa Bush/
/Copyright © American Library Association. All rights reserved/








http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0670037745/qid=1152975400/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-2270178-5746208?v=glance&s=books

>
>
>

[peterh5322]

On 2006-07-14 23:40:09 -0700, ***@pacbell.net said:

>> a Duck till I die.
>
> "AFLAC!"

Nope, the (University of Oregon) Fighting Ducks.

Incidentally, two cases were Disney characters and likenesses of same,
have been licensed to other organizations:

1) Fighting Ducks, see above

2) Bee, Mc Clatchey newspapers, including KFBK/1530.

[peterh5322]

On 2006-07-15 05:11:21 -0700, peterh5322
<***@rattlebrain.comminch> said:

> Incidentally, two cases were Disney characters and likenesses of same,
> have been licensed to other organizations:
>
> 1) Fighting Ducks, see above
>
> 2) Bee, Mc Clatchey newspapers, including KFBK/1530.


(University of Oregon) Fighting Duck:

<http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/peterh5322/ducks.jpg>


(Mc Clatchey) Bee:

<http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/peterh5322/Bee.jpg>

[Must be the Antichrist again...]

Because one can breathe unlimited amounts of American air for free or
at least with a tank. It is very hard to achieve respiration through a
radio, However, vigorous funky music on a radio aids respiration and
overall circulation by a signifacnt, highly therapeutic margin over
political air.

Take "Got To Give It Up" by Marvin Gaye and a blues injection and call
back Tuesday if you need another apointment. Wait for the nurse to give
you the billing documents to sign and thanks for coming in.

Dr. Antichrist

[Must be the Antichrist again...]

Son, you've got about 40 posts worth of this shit and your mother and I
are starting to have concerns.

[Radio Engineering]

It's easy: Air America is not as successful as it might otherwise be
because it's dull, predictable, badly executed mostly by
non-professionals and is heard on crummier signals. It's not good
radio.

It is (mostly) not entertaining or engaging and takes itself far too
seriously. ("We've got to save the country!") This is an overly broad
statment, but overall, They aren't funny and are as cartoonish as those
on the far right, but nastier! Because they are "true beleivers" and
for them it is a cause.

The management at many of the affiliate stations seems to beleive that
they need only pick the current "miracle format" from a syndicated
format menu, stuff the automation full of positioners, promos and other
fill (lots of it, since there are no real spots or content) and "let
'er rip". The result is a cacophany of automation mistakes and awful
network spots for snake oil, and tons of useless clutter. Lets face it:
Network spots SUCK! Automation SUCKS and Syndicated talk shows all seem
to sound the same. How can anybody care about them even if they happen
to agree with the hosts?

Most of these stations have no allegiance to anything or anybody,
especially their prospective audience. They would drop AA (or anything
else for that matter) in a heartbeat if they thought that another
miracle format (or recorded bird calls) would do better. They don't
change simply because they don't have any better ideas.

The current crop of "talkers" are simply treating current AA outlets
like any other format. Many stations like this have few good syndicated
choices available to them (because the best ones are taken already) and
wouldn't know how to execute or can't afford creating their own
programming anyway.

I expect to get blasted by those who can't seperate religion (politics,
in this case) from radio. This ground has been covered. Please stow it.

Rush Limbaugh is successful because he is more entertaining than
anybody on AA. I personally think that he's become dull, as has Dr.
Laura. I'm completely bored with religion and poilitcs. There was a
time when they weren't discussed in polite company.

But, in a nutshell, they don't do as well because the format sucks, the
stations suck, and the audience isn't interested. They are only still
around because nobody has any better ideas.

[No, It's just Steven...]

Radio Engineering wrote:
> It's easy: Air America is not as successful as it might otherwise be
> because it's dull, predictable, badly executed mostly by
> non-professionals and is heard on crummier signals. It's not good
> radio.
>
> It is (mostly) not entertaining or engaging and takes itself far too
> seriously. ("We've got to save the country!") This is an overly broad
> statment, but overall, They aren't funny and are as cartoonish as those
> on the far right, but nastier! Because they are "true beleivers" and
> for them it is a cause.
>
> The management at many of the affiliate stations seems to beleive that
> they need only pick the current "miracle format" from a syndicated
> format menu, stuff the automation full of positioners, promos and other
> fill (lots of it, since there are no real spots or content) and "let
> 'er rip". The result is a cacophany of automation mistakes and awful
> network spots for snake oil, and tons of useless clutter. Lets face it:
> Network spots SUCK! Automation SUCKS and Syndicated talk shows all seem
> to sound the same. How can anybody care about them even if they happen
> to agree with the hosts?
>
> Most of these stations have no allegiance to anything or anybody,
> especially their prospective audience. They would drop AA (or anything
> else for that matter) in a heartbeat if they thought that another
> miracle format (or recorded bird calls) would do better. They don't
> change simply because they don't have any better ideas.
>
> The current crop of "talkers" are simply treating current AA outlets
> like any other format. Many stations like this have few good syndicated
> choices available to them (because the best ones are taken already) and
> wouldn't know how to execute or can't afford creating their own
> programming anyway.
>
> I expect to get blasted by those who can't seperate religion (politics,
> in this case) from radio. This ground has been covered. Please stow it.
>
> Rush Limbaugh is successful because he is more entertaining than
> anybody on AA. I personally think that he's become dull, as has Dr.
> Laura. I'm completely bored with religion and poilitcs. There was a
> time when they weren't discussed in polite company.
>
> But, in a nutshell, they don't do as well because the format sucks, the
> stations suck, and the audience isn't interested. They are only still
> around because nobody has any better ideas.

My local 1380 KSRV dropped all syndicated talk initally then brought
back Dave Ramsey. Then they do morning and afternoon ag news, ABC Radio
News/Paul Harvey and play Buddy Holly, Spiral Staircase, Ray Charles
etc in between. Funny thing...they actually replaced most of the
equipment and the transmitter! Now they sound better than they have in
the 28 years I've listened, and they don't a 5 kHz profile OR IBOC a
mideast terrorist broadcasting system either. Imagine that.

[Cheeks]

Radio Engineering wrote:
> It's easy: Air America is not as successful as it might otherwise be
> because it's dull, predictable, badly executed mostly by
> non-professionals and is heard on crummier signals. It's not good
> radio.
>
> It is (mostly) not entertaining or engaging and takes itself far too
> seriously. ("We've got to save the country!") This is an overly broad
> statment, but overall, They aren't funny and are as cartoonish as those
> on the far right, but nastier! Because they are "true beleivers" and
> for them it is a cause.
>
> The management at many of the affiliate stations seems to beleive that
> they need only pick the current "miracle format" from a syndicated
> format menu, stuff the automation full of positioners, promos and other
> fill (lots of it, since there are no real spots or content) and "let
> 'er rip". The result is a cacophany of automation mistakes and awful
> network spots for snake oil, and tons of useless clutter. Lets face it:
> Network spots SUCK! Automation SUCKS and Syndicated talk shows all seem
> to sound the same. How can anybody care about them even if they happen
> to agree with the hosts?
>
> Most of these stations have no allegiance to anything or anybody,
> especially their prospective audience. They would drop AA (or anything
> else for that matter) in a heartbeat if they thought that another
> miracle format (or recorded bird calls) would do better. They don't
> change simply because they don't have any better ideas.
>
> The current crop of "talkers" are simply treating current AA outlets
> like any other format. Many stations like this have few good syndicated
> choices available to them (because the best ones are taken already) and
> wouldn't know how to execute or can't afford creating their own
> programming anyway.
>
> I expect to get blasted by those who can't seperate religion (politics,
> in this case) from radio. This ground has been covered. Please stow it.
>
> Rush Limbaugh is successful because he is more entertaining than
> anybody on AA. I personally think that he's become dull, as has Dr.
> Laura. I'm completely bored with religion and poilitcs. There was a
> time when they weren't discussed in polite company.
>
> But, in a nutshell, they don't do as well because the format sucks, the
> stations suck, and the audience isn't interested. They are only still
> around because nobody has any better ideas.
>
YOUR opinion. Which isn't necessarily worth much.

--
June 30, 2006:

On Tuesday, the Mexican foreign secretary went on a radio program in
Mexico City and said,
“If there is a real wave of rights abuses, if we see the National Guard
starting to directly
participate in detaining people, we would immediately start filing
lawsuits through our
consulates.”

Last night, O’Reilly fired back:

“Okay then, Mr. Secretary. Here’s a no-spin message right back to you.
If the Mexican
government files one lawsuit in the USA, one, pertaining to the National
Guard, I will call for
a total boycott of Mexican goods and no travel to your country. Now that
might sound
presumptuous and I don’t mean to be threatening, but enough’s enough. It
is your
government’s fault, sir, that there is border chaos. We in America have
a right to security
and a right to expect our immigration laws be enforced. So, once again,
any action by the
Mexican government that impacts border security in the USA will be met
with a boycott
call. And if you don’t believe me or you think it doesn’t matter, Mr.
Secretary, why don’t you
give the French ambassador a call. He’ll fill you in.”

If you do call the French ambassador, chances are he will say something
to the effect of,
“Monsieur, monsieur, le boycott d'O'Reilly est fantastique!”

You see, O’Reilly called for a boycott in 2003 in response to France’s
lack of support for the
U.S. military action in Iraq. Let’s take a look at the results:

2002: Pre-Factor Boycott
French exports to the U.S. total $28.2 billion.

2003: Factor Boycott Begins
French exports to the U.S. increase a billion dollars to $29.2 billion.

2004: Factor Boycott Year 2
French exports to the U.S. increase more than $2 billion to $31.6 billion.

2005: Factor Boycott Year 3
French exports to the U.S. again increase more than $2 billion to $33.8
billion.

Wow, from $28.2 billion to $33.8 billion. So, according to the Foreign
Trade Division of the U.S.
Census Bureau, the Factor boycott of France has enabled France to
increase its exports to the
U.S. by $5.6 billion. So foreign powers be warned: You better think long
and hard before getting
on the wrong side of one Mr. William J. O’Reilly Jr., or you’ll be faced
with an onslaught of
economic growth the likes of which you’ve never imagined. Suck on that,
Mexico.

But for the sake of argument, let’s say we did get into a pissing match
with our neighbor to the
south. As we pointed out when O’Reilly threatened Canada with a boycott,
we’re a country
that’s rather dependent on foreign oil. What O’Reilly doesn’t appear to
know, however, is that
we import more crude oil from Mexico than from Saudi Arabia. In fact,
Mexico and Canada are
the largest exporters of oil to the U.S.

So before O’Reilly starts threatening to pull out the aces in our little
house-of-cards economy,
he might want to have that crack staff do a 30-second Google search. We
need Mexico more
than we need Saudi Arabia. So let’s not piss ‘em off too much, El
Presidente O’Reilly.

Until then, we’re anxious to see this O’Reilly boycott fail, as have all
the others that came
before it. He really is the craziest man on television.

-as reported on _www.sweetjesusihatebilloreilly.com_

[David Kaye]

Cheeks wrote:

> >
> YOUR opinion. Which isn't necessarily worth much.
>

Except that he's been working in commercial radio for a long time,
probably longer than you have. And who are you exactly anyway?

[No, It's just Steven...]

David Kaye wrote:
> Cheeks wrote:
>
> > >
> > YOUR opinion. Which isn't necessarily worth much.
> >
>
> Except that he's been working in commercial radio for a long time,
> probably longer than you have. And who are you exactly anyway?

Some loose noodle I probably cut out of the crossposting as Google
disallows more than 5 groups at a time.

[Cheeks]

No, It's just Steven... wrote:
> David Kaye wrote:
>> Cheeks wrote:
>>
>>> YOUR opinion. Which isn't necessarily worth much.
>>>
>> Except that he's been working in commercial radio for a long time,
>> probably longer than you have. And who are you exactly anyway?
>
> Some loose noodle I probably cut out of the crossposting as Google
> disallows more than 5 groups at a time.
>

Moron - I'm not crossposting, I'm responding the existing
posts.

--
June 30, 2006:

On Tuesday, the Mexican foreign secretary went on a radio program in
Mexico City and said,
“If there is a real wave of rights abuses, if we see the National Guard
starting to directly
participate in detaining people, we would immediately start filing
lawsuits through our
consulates.”

Last night, O’Reilly fired back:

“Okay then, Mr. Secretary. Here’s a no-spin message right back to you.
If the Mexican
government files one lawsuit in the USA, one, pertaining to the National
Guard, I will call for
a total boycott of Mexican goods and no travel to your country. Now that
might sound
presumptuous and I don’t mean to be threatening, but enough’s enough. It
is your
government’s fault, sir, that there is border chaos. We in America have
a right to security
and a right to expect our immigration laws be enforced. So, once again,
any action by the
Mexican government that impacts border security in the USA will be met
with a boycott
call. And if you don’t believe me or you think it doesn’t matter, Mr.
Secretary, why don’t you
give the French ambassador a call. He’ll fill you in.”

If you do call the French ambassador, chances are he will say something
to the effect of,
“Monsieur, monsieur, le boycott d'O'Reilly est fantastique!”

You see, O’Reilly called for a boycott in 2003 in response to France’s
lack of support for the
U.S. military action in Iraq. Let’s take a look at the results:

2002: Pre-Factor Boycott
French exports to the U.S. total $28.2 billion.

2003: Factor Boycott Begins
French exports to the U.S. increase a billion dollars to $29.2 billion.

2004: Factor Boycott Year 2
French exports to the U.S. increase more than $2 billion to $31.6 billion.

2005: Factor Boycott Year 3
French exports to the U.S. again increase more than $2 billion to $33.8
billion.

Wow, from $28.2 billion to $33.8 billion. So, according to the Foreign
Trade Division of the U.S.
Census Bureau, the Factor boycott of France has enabled France to
increase its exports to the
U.S. by $5.6 billion. So foreign powers be warned: You better think long
and hard before getting
on the wrong side of one Mr. William J. O’Reilly Jr., or you’ll be faced
with an onslaught of
economic growth the likes of which you’ve never imagined. Suck on that,
Mexico.

But for the sake of argument, let’s say we did get into a pissing match
with our neighbor to the
south. As we pointed out when O’Reilly threatened Canada with a boycott,
we’re a country
that’s rather dependent on foreign oil. What O’Reilly doesn’t appear to
know, however, is that
we import more crude oil from Mexico than from Saudi Arabia. In fact,
Mexico and Canada are
the largest exporters of oil to the U.S.

So before O’Reilly starts threatening to pull out the aces in our little
house-of-cards economy,
he might want to have that crack staff do a 30-second Google search. We
need Mexico more
than we need Saudi Arabia. So let’s not piss ‘em off too much, El
Presidente O’Reilly.

Until then, we’re anxious to see this O’Reilly boycott fail, as have all
the others that came
before it. He really is the craziest man on television.

-as reported on _www.sweetjesusihatebilloreilly.com_

[No, It's just Steven...]

Cheeks wrote:
> No, It's just Steven... wrote:
> > David Kaye wrote:
> >> Cheeks wrote:
> >>
> >>> YOUR opinion. Which isn't necessarily worth much.
> >>>
> >> Except that he's been working in commercial radio for a long time,
> >> probably longer than you have. And who are you exactly anyway?
> >
> > Some loose noodle I probably cut out of the crossposting as Google
> > disallows more than 5 groups at a time.
> >
>
> Moron - I'm not crossposting, I'm responding the existing
> posts.

Cry all you want and kiss my boil but you are down to just three from
7-8 groups now and Google still won't let me sent across more than 5 at
once.

I've used computers since 1979. I'll bet a penny you weren't born then,
but no biggie. The guy that killfiled you got on one before me I think.

[Cheeks]

David Kaye wrote:
> Cheeks wrote:
>
>> YOUR opinion. Which isn't necessarily worth much.
>>
>
> Except that he's been working in commercial radio for a long time,
> probably longer than you have. And who are you exactly anyway?
>

I'm someone smart enough NOT to be a pathetic right wing zero..

And I don't give a shit where the moron works - he's still wrong.

--
June 30, 2006:

On Tuesday, the Mexican foreign secretary went on a radio program in
Mexico City and said,
“If there is a real wave of rights abuses, if we see the National Guard
starting to directly
participate in detaining people, we would immediately start filing
lawsuits through our
consulates.”

Last night, O’Reilly fired back:

“Okay then, Mr. Secretary. Here’s a no-spin message right back to you.
If the Mexican
government files one lawsuit in the USA, one, pertaining to the National
Guard, I will call for
a total boycott of Mexican goods and no travel to your country. Now that
might sound
presumptuous and I don’t mean to be threatening, but enough’s enough. It
is your
government’s fault, sir, that there is border chaos. We in America have
a right to security
and a right to expect our immigration laws be enforced. So, once again,
any action by the
Mexican government that impacts border security in the USA will be met
with a boycott
call. And if you don’t believe me or you think it doesn’t matter, Mr.
Secretary, why don’t you
give the French ambassador a call. He’ll fill you in.”

If you do call the French ambassador, chances are he will say something
to the effect of,
“Monsieur, monsieur, le boycott d'O'Reilly est fantastique!”

You see, O’Reilly called for a boycott in 2003 in response to France’s
lack of support for the
U.S. military action in Iraq. Let’s take a look at the results:

2002: Pre-Factor Boycott
French exports to the U.S. total $28.2 billion.

2003: Factor Boycott Begins
French exports to the U.S. increase a billion dollars to $29.2 billion.

2004: Factor Boycott Year 2
French exports to the U.S. increase more than $2 billion to $31.6 billion.

2005: Factor Boycott Year 3
French exports to the U.S. again increase more than $2 billion to $33.8
billion.

Wow, from $28.2 billion to $33.8 billion. So, according to the Foreign
Trade Division of the U.S.
Census Bureau, the Factor boycott of France has enabled France to
increase its exports to the
U.S. by $5.6 billion. So foreign powers be warned: You better think long
and hard before getting
on the wrong side of one Mr. William J. O’Reilly Jr., or you’ll be faced
with an onslaught of
economic growth the likes of which you’ve never imagined. Suck on that,
Mexico.

But for the sake of argument, let’s say we did get into a pissing match
with our neighbor to the
south. As we pointed out when O’Reilly threatened Canada with a boycott,
we’re a country
that’s rather dependent on foreign oil. What O’Reilly doesn’t appear to
know, however, is that
we import more crude oil from Mexico than from Saudi Arabia. In fact,
Mexico and Canada are
the largest exporters of oil to the U.S.

So before O’Reilly starts threatening to pull out the aces in our little
house-of-cards economy,
he might want to have that crack staff do a 30-second Google search. We
need Mexico more
than we need Saudi Arabia. So let’s not piss ‘em off too much, El
Presidente O’Reilly.

Until then, we’re anxious to see this O’Reilly boycott fail, as have all
the others that came
before it. He really is the craziest man on television.

-as reported on _www.sweetjesusihatebilloreilly.com_

[David Kaye]

Cheeks wrote:

> I'm someone smart enough NOT to be a pathetic right wing zero..
> And I don't give a shit where the moron works - he's still wrong.

Okay, fair enough. I'll killfile you so I don't have to read your
uninformed drivel.

[Kyle Daulton]

"David Kaye" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:***@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Cheeks wrote:
>
>> I'm someone smart enough NOT to be a pathetic right wing zero..
>> And I don't give a shit where the moron works - he's still wrong.
>
> Okay, fair enough. I'll killfile you so I don't have to read your
> uninformed drivel.

And I'll do the same to you, since you clearly have no sense, Mary Kaye.
<PLONK>

[Stan de SD]

"Cheeks" <_> wrote in message news:44bbf040$***@nntp.zianet.com...
> David Kaye wrote:
> > Cheeks wrote:
> >
> >> YOUR opinion. Which isn't necessarily worth much.
> >>
> >
> > Except that he's been working in commercial radio for a long time,
> > probably longer than you have. And who are you exactly anyway?
> >
>
> I'm someone smart enough NOT to be a pathetic right wing zero..

And you illustrate my point about Lefty Liberals to a T. It's not merely
that I disagree with you on certain political or social issues that makes
you a loser (that just makes you a liberal with a small "l") - it's your
content-free hysterical foaming. You don't post here because you have
something of subtance to contribute - only because you have to post
SOMETHING. And apparently now, even those who may hold political views far
closer to you than those on the right, see it themselves.

> And I don't give a shit where the moron works - he's still wrong.

Funny that he's still working in radio, something I bet you aren't.
Personally, the fact that I STRONGLY disagree with the likes of the
political views of people such as Ray Talleafarro and Bernie Ward doesn't
mean that I refuse to acknowledge that they BOTH know far more about the
radio broadcast industry than I ever will. I would never claim to be an
expert in that area, because I know (and recognize) my own limitations. You
need to learn (and recognize) yours... :O|

[Stan de SD]

"Cheeks" <_> wrote in message news:44bb26e3$***@nntp.zianet.com...
> Radio Engineering wrote:
> > It's easy: Air America is not as successful as it might otherwise be
> > because it's dull, predictable, badly executed mostly by
> > non-professionals and is heard on crummier signals. It's not good
> > radio.
> >
> > It is (mostly) not entertaining or engaging and takes itself far too
> > seriously. ("We've got to save the country!") This is an overly broad
> > statment, but overall, They aren't funny and are as cartoonish as those
> > on the far right, but nastier! Because they are "true beleivers" and
> > for them it is a cause.
> >
> > The management at many of the affiliate stations seems to beleive that
> > they need only pick the current "miracle format" from a syndicated
> > format menu, stuff the automation full of positioners, promos and other
> > fill (lots of it, since there are no real spots or content) and "let
> > 'er rip". The result is a cacophany of automation mistakes and awful
> > network spots for snake oil, and tons of useless clutter. Lets face it:
> > Network spots SUCK! Automation SUCKS and Syndicated talk shows all seem
> > to sound the same. How can anybody care about them even if they happen
> > to agree with the hosts?
> >
> > Most of these stations have no allegiance to anything or anybody,
> > especially their prospective audience. They would drop AA (or anything
> > else for that matter) in a heartbeat if they thought that another
> > miracle format (or recorded bird calls) would do better. They don't
> > change simply because they don't have any better ideas.
> >
> > The current crop of "talkers" are simply treating current AA outlets
> > like any other format. Many stations like this have few good syndicated
> > choices available to them (because the best ones are taken already) and
> > wouldn't know how to execute or can't afford creating their own
> > programming anyway.
> >
> > I expect to get blasted by those who can't seperate religion (politics,
> > in this case) from radio. This ground has been covered. Please stow it.
> >
> > Rush Limbaugh is successful because he is more entertaining than
> > anybody on AA. I personally think that he's become dull, as has Dr.
> > Laura. I'm completely bored with religion and poilitcs. There was a
> > time when they weren't discussed in polite company.
> >
> > But, in a nutshell, they don't do as well because the format sucks, the
> > stations suck, and the audience isn't interested. They are only still
> > around because nobody has any better ideas.
> >
> YOUR opinion. Which isn't necessarily worth much.

He did a far better job of expressing his than you did yours. Not that I
necessarily agree with everything he said, but unlike you, he stated his
case in a cogent, rational manner.

[l***@democrat.com]

Radio Engineering wrote:
> It's easy: Air America is not as successful as it might otherwise be
> because it's dull, predictable, badly executed mostly by
> non-professionals and is heard on crummier signals. It's not good
> radio.
>
> It is (mostly) not entertaining or engaging and takes itself far too
> seriously. ("We've got to save the country!") This is an overly broad
> statment, but overall, They aren't funny and are as cartoonish as those
> on the far right, but nastier! Because they are "true beleivers" and
> for them it is a cause.
>
> The management at many of the affiliate stations seems to beleive that
> they need only pick the current "miracle format" from a syndicated
> format menu, stuff the automation full of positioners, promos and other
> fill (lots of it, since there are no real spots or content) and "let
> 'er rip". The result is a cacophany of automation mistakes and awful
> network spots for snake oil, and tons of useless clutter. Lets face it:
> Network spots SUCK! Automation SUCKS and Syndicated talk shows all seem
> to sound the same. How can anybody care about them even if they happen
> to agree with the hosts?
>
> Most of these stations have no allegiance to anything or anybody,
> especially their prospective audience. They would drop AA (or anything
> else for that matter) in a heartbeat if they thought that another
> miracle format (or recorded bird calls) would do better. They don't
> change simply because they don't have any better ideas.
>
> The current crop of "talkers" are simply treating current AA outlets
> like any other format. Many stations like this have few good syndicated
> choices available to them (because the best ones are taken already) and
> wouldn't know how to execute or can't afford creating their own
> programming anyway.
>
> I expect to get blasted by those who can't seperate religion (politics,
> in this case) from radio. This ground has been covered. Please stow it.
>
> Rush Limbaugh is successful because he is more entertaining than
> anybody on AA. I personally think that he's become dull, as has Dr.
> Laura. I'm completely bored with religion and poilitcs. There was a
> time when they weren't discussed in polite company.
>
> But, in a nutshell, they don't do as well because the format sucks, the
> stations suck, and the audience isn't interested. They are only still
> around because nobody has any better ideas.

Seriously, you haven't heard Limbaugh in some time, isn't that right
Mr. Snerdly. Limbaugh is kind of stiff. [OK, I couldn't miss the chance
for a Viagra joke.] But really, Limbaugh is boring. When I'm not in the
bay area and can't get Air America, I give Limbaugh about a half hour,
then go to my CDs. How many times can one guy say the same lies?

Some AAR hosts are good, some aren't. You certainly aren't dissing
Randi Rhodes? She used to beat Limbaugh when they were on at the same
time.

About the only thing you said that is correct is that the stations
carrying AAR would drop it if there was something out there that would
get better ratings. The number of true believers in the world, those
that give up money to do what is right, is very small.

PS: So what was Limbaugh up to at Martha's Vineyard, and was Viagra
required?