pnyikos <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Spartakus <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > "MioMyo" <***@Somewhere.com> wrote:
> > > <***@SillyWalk.com> wrote...
> > > > "MioMyo" <***@Somewhere.com> wrote:
> > > >>No one on the right has gloated over the Tiller death
> > > > Bullshit
> > > >
> > > > Any political ideology that has, for decades, made it
> > > > known to every kook that "god" hates people who help
> > > > women, that killing them would be "forgiven"---is
> > > > culpable of abetting and/or advocating murder.
> THAT, I agree with. But the "political ideology" of which MioMyo
> speaks is something he made up off the top of his head, unless...
> [see next comment]
***@sillywalk.com, you mean.
> > > Got a cite to prove that?
> I'm sure he does not, unless...
> ... his description "people who help women" is his pro-abortionist
> lunatic fringe way of saying "abortionists," as if they were the only
> people who ever helped women.
It could include pharmacists who fill prescriptions for birth control
or RU486 as well.
> Minor side issue: I note that he couldn't bring himself to capitalize
> the g in "god,"even after putting the word in quotes.
Which god? There are so many to choose from.
> Which newsgroup did you find this kook in, Spartakus?
You mean, Meow-Mix? Not sure where his "home" newsgroup is. He likes
to cross-post to ba.politics though. He seems to be laboring under
the delusion that there aren't any informed liberal/progressive types
in the Bay Area. He's a real piece of work, isn't he?
> > Here's a little something called the "Defensive Action Statement":
> >
> > "We, the undersigned, declare the justice of taking all godly
> > action necessary to defend innocent human life including the
> > use of force. We proclaim that whatever force is legitimate
> > to defend the life of a born child is legitimate to defend the
> > life of an unborn child. We assert that if Michael Griffin did
> > in fact kill David Gunn, his use of lethal force was justifiable
> > provided it was carried out for the purpose of defending the
> > lives of unborn children. Therefore, he ought to be acquitted
> > of the charges against him."
> >
> >http://www.armyofgod.com/defense.html
> The usual anti-abortionist lunatic fringe suspects. One of them,
> McMillan, has a wife, Beverly, who was once an abortionist. I once
> told a peaceful pro-life activist here in Columbia, who knows him
> personally, "I'm sure that sometimes, when he looks at an abortionist,
> he must think, `There, but for the grace of God, goes my wife.' How
> does he square this with his advocacy of killing abortionists?" The
> activist replied something to the effect that McMillan was all screwed
> up.
As indeed they all are. I note some familiar names - "Reverend" Don
Spitz and Paul deParrie used to post to the abortion newsgroups.
> > > HELL NO................
> > Counting your chickens before the eggs are even laid.
> You do that all the time, Spartakus.
Liar.
> That's because you are so completely undiscriminating in your
> allegations.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
> I on the other hand am careful to pick the things that I'm sure you
> can't document.
Oh, is THAT your debating strategy??? Yur doin it rong. Backwards,
in fact.
> For instance, I think you would have to rely on your numerous e-mail
> correspondents to find even one documentably false statement by an
> NRLC staff member in any NRLC website. And even then, I predict the
> example will be a long time in coming.
A few keystrokes and mouseclicks is all it takes to summon the Great
Gazoogle...
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/pbafact2.html
Aren't "third trimester" abortions rare?
Notice how the author doesn't answer this question?
At what stage in pregnancy do partial-birth abortions occur?
Are these babies "viable"? It appears that the substantial
majority of partial-birth abortions are performed late in the
second trimester -- that is, before the 27-week mark -- but
usually after 20 weeks (4 1/2 months).
The author presents no evidence to support this claim.
There is compelling evidence that the overwhelming majority
of these pre-week-27 partial-birth abortions are performed for
purely "social" reasons.
The author presents no evidence to support this claim.
Currently, many babies are "viable" a full three
weeks before the "third trimester." Therefore,
A totally unjustified use of "therefore"...
most partial-birth abortions kill babies who are already
"viable," or who are at most a few days or weeks short
of viability.
As you are so fond of saying, "garbage in - garbage out". The author
provides *no* evidence that most ID&E abortions occur after
viability.